airbusA346
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Scanners

Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:04 pm

Hi,

I am thinking of getting a scanner which is of good quality and has good range and is reasonably priced.

Can somebody recommend some?

Thanks
Tom.
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RE: Scanners

Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:12 pm

Tom,

I have the Maycom AR-108 (retails at around £75) and it has lasted me with no problems for 5 years of continuous usage. It is a nice piece of kit and can store 99 frequencies, it is small too so can easily fit in your pocket etc. If you live near an airport you'll pick up the traffic, but you will also be able to pick up overhead traffic if you have the squelch on. It is a great little scanner for the price, have a look:

http://www.transair.co.uk/product4.asp?SID=2&Product_ID=580
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RE: Scanners

Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:32 pm

Quoting Ryanair737 (Reply 1):
but you will also be able to pick up overhead traffic if you have the squelch on

Cool, so if I had the Squelch on I say pick up the radio from planes requesting flight level changes (for example) when they are flying over head. Big grin

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RE: Scanners

Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:41 pm

Quoting AirbusA346 (Reply 2):
Cool, so if I had the Squelch on I say pick up the radio from planes requesting flight level changes (for example) when they are flying over head. Big grin

Yep this is correct.
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RE: Scanners

Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:20 pm

Quoting Ryanair737 (Reply 1):
If you live near an airport you'll pick up the traffic, but you will also be able to pick up overhead traffic if you have the squelch on.



Quoting AirbusA346 (Reply 2):
Cool, so if I had the Squelch on I say pick up the radio from planes requesting flight level changes (for example) when they are flying over head

Not sure what this has to do with the squelch ???

The squelch just limits the threshold at which the transmission will be output from the speaker.

If anything, you're going to hear everything possible with the squelch OFF ... if it's on, you're limiting the output to those over a certain signal strength.


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RE: Scanners

Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:32 pm

Would anybody else recommend any Scanners?

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RE: Scanners

Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:47 pm

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 4):
Not sure what this has to do with the squelch ???

The squelch just limits the threshold at which the transmission will be output from the speaker.

If anything, you're going to hear everything possible with the squelch OFF ... if it's on, you're limiting the output to those over a certain signal strength.

If I have the squelch off and I'm trying to get overhead broadcasts on my scanner I DO NOT pick up all the traffic as I would do with the squelch on, this is from my personal experience with listening to ATC for about 5 years from my house!
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RE: Scanners

Thu Nov 08, 2007 12:02 am

Quoting Ryanair737 (Reply 6):
Quoting Bond007 (Reply 4):
Not sure what this has to do with the squelch ???

The squelch just limits the threshold at which the transmission will be output from the speaker.

If anything, you're going to hear everything possible with the squelch OFF ... if it's on, you're limiting the output to those over a certain signal strength.

If I have the squelch off and I'm trying to get overhead broadcasts on my scanner I DO NOT pick up all the traffic as I would do with the squelch on

Ah, "squelch on", "squelch open", etc... often a cause of confusion. Are we all saying the same thing?  Smile

With the squelch turned "all the way down", to use a non-technical term, you should hear all transmissions with white noise in between. With the squelch turned "all the way up", you won't hear anything except the strongest transmissions with silence in between.

To me, "squelch on" means turning the squelch "up" until it mutes the white noise (and possibly further to block all but the strongest signals), and "squelch off" means turning it "down" until weaker signals (including white noise) are heard... but that's just the way I think about it so it might not be right.  Smile
 
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RE: Scanners

Thu Nov 08, 2007 12:20 am

Quoting David L (Reply 7):
To me, "squelch on" means turning the squelch "up" until it mutes the white noise (and possibly further to block all but the strongest signals), and "squelch off" means turning it "down" until weaker signals (including white noise) are heard... but that's just the way I think about it so it might not be right.

Well, that's factually correct ... hence my comment  Wink

Squelch "off" would be the same as if the radio had no squelch circuitry at all.


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RE: Scanners

Thu Nov 08, 2007 10:34 am

Thanks, though I wasn't trying to be right, just trying to get us all on to the same page.  Smile
 
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RE: Scanners

Thu Nov 08, 2007 3:16 pm

Quoting David L (Reply 7):
With the squelch turned "all the way down", to use a non-technical term, you should hear all transmissions with white noise in between.

I have it "all the way down" then which to me means squelch on as I can hear the white noise and all transmissions, but if that is known as squelch off to you guys then so be it!  Smile

So, AirbusA346 you will hear overhead broadcasts from your house if you have the squelch "all the way down" like these guys have explained and that is how I have it.
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RE: Scanners

Thu Nov 08, 2007 3:57 pm

Quoting Ryanair737 (Reply 10):
I have it "all the way down" then which to me means squelch on as I can hear the white noise and all transmissions, but if that is known as squelch off to you guys then so be it!

So, AirbusA346 you will hear overhead broadcasts from your house if you have the squelch "all the way down" like these guys have explained and that is how I have it.

Now we're on the same page  Smile


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RE: Scanners

Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:31 pm

Does anybody else recommend anymore scanners apart from the one mentioned at the start of the thread.

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RE: Scanners

Thu Nov 08, 2007 10:33 pm

Quoting AirbusA346 (Reply 12):
Does anybody else recommend anymore scanners apart from the one mentioned at the start of the thread.

Probably not if it's for purchase in the UK. I have a Uniden Bearcat, and a Radio Shack PRO-97. Both are overkill for listening to ATC only, but both are good. I have used a cheaper Uniden Bearcat in the past, and been very happy with. I've also a number of the Radio Shack handhelds cheaper and less complex than the PRO-97 and been happy with them also. The advantages of the PRO-97 is it picks up UHF, so it's possible to listen to a lot of military stuff that only use UHF (generally fighters - transports also use VHF). The PRO-97 also allows a couple of lines of text to entered on each stored frequency... which is cool when you're scanning or looking for a freq. For example, it'll show "Tampa Approach" on the display, if that's what I store with the TPA Approach freq. It also has a PC interface which allows you to download and store whole banks of frequencies .. again, overkill unless you want to load every frequency with a 200m radius or similar!

Jimbo

[Edited 2007-11-08 14:35:10]
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RE: Scanners

Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:01 am

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 13):
Probably not if it's for purchase in the UK.

I think most of those are available in the UK but it depends how serious it needs to be. For listening only to civil traffic near airports and to airways traffic in the UK, the AR-108 is perfect due to having 99 memory channels and being pretty small.

I have the AOR AR-8200 Mk II which allows searches, scans, dual channel, etc., and can be interfaced to a computer. The most useful feature is the memory bank facility. There are 1000 memory channels split into 20 banks, any combination of which can be scanned. I have one bank for central Scotland, another for the London area, another for Geneva, another for NY, etc. It means I can leave all the frequencies I ever need in memory and only scan the appropriate banks so as not to waste time scanning inappropriate frequencies.

I've even written a VB application that can download the stored frequencies and settings for easier manipulation on a PC and I can also run selective scans and searches and record the number of transmissions on each frequency in my absence so I can see which are worth listening to.

It really depends what you want to do with a scanner.  Smile
 
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RE: Scanners

Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:36 pm

Quoting David L (Reply 14):
AOR AR-8200

Yeah, sounds similar to my PRO-97 ... great for the serious enthusiast, but too much for just listening to LHR and a few airways freqs.  Smile

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RE: Scanners

Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:36 pm

Just a question, which one is better (because there is only £5 difference)

http://www.transair.co.uk/product4.asp?SID=2&Product_ID=580

http://www.transair.co.uk/product4.asp?SID=2&Product_ID=3749

And is there anymore online shops in the UK like Transair which you would recommend?

Thanks
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RE: Scanners

Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:13 am



Quoting AirbusA346 (Reply 16):
which one is better (because there is only £5 difference)

The first difference I can see is that the Bearcat has the 88-108 MHz band for commercial radio (mono, I assume) so is a bit more versatile for everyday use. If you're in the habit of travelling with an MP3 player with FM radio, it probably doesn't matter, though.

The AR-108 seems to be very slightly more compact.
 
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RE: Scanners

Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:56 am



Quoting David L (Reply 17):

So which would you personally go for?

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RE: Scanners

Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:42 pm



Quoting AirbusA346 (Reply 18):
So which would you personally go for?

Sorry, can't help you there. As I said, I already have an "overkill" scanner so I wouldn't personally go for either.  Smile
 
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RE: Scanners

Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:50 pm

Do you know of any more online shops?

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RE: Scanners

Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:57 am

David, just pretend you have got an 'overkill' scanner, which one of the two above would you buy?

And how much was your 'overkill' scanner?

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RE: Scanners

Thu Nov 22, 2007 11:05 am



Quoting AirbusA346 (Reply 21):
David, just pretend you have got an 'overkill' scanner, which one of the two above would you buy?

Honestly, I don't have a preference. They both seem to have about the same airband capabilities, one has the commercial FM band and the other is a bit more compact. There's no point in me deciding whether someone else wants the extra FM band.  Smile

Quoting AirbusA346 (Reply 21):
And how much was your 'overkill' scanner?

Um... £400.
 
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RE: Scanners

Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:00 pm

£400 are you mad!!!!!!!!!!????????????

I think I will probably go for the £79.99 one because it has more freq range.

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RE: Scanners

Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:29 pm

Hi David,

There is a Bearcat on this webpage (http://www.sbs-1.co.uk/) is it the same one as on the Transair site.

Just double checking because it is there seems to be quite a price drop.

Also where do you think the volume control is on the bearcat?

Tom.

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RE: Scanners

Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:01 pm



Quoting AirbusA346 (Reply 23):
£400 are you mad!!!!!!!!!!????????????

I was earning a decent salary at the time  Smile. Those days are gone  Sad.

Quoting AirbusA346 (Reply 24):
There is a Bearcat on this webpage (http://www.sbs-1.co.uk/) is it the same one as on the Transair site.

Looks like it: UBC-30XLT

Quoting AirbusA346 (Reply 24):
Also where do you think the volume control is on the bearcat?

Looking at other Uniden units and the fact that another photo doesn't reveal anything on the left side, I'm guessing the volume and squelch controls are "pop-up" affairs on the top of the unit, next to the antenna.
 
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RE: Scanners

Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:44 pm

Cool!

I'm surprised at the price difference though. Embarrassment

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RE: Scanners

Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:36 pm



Quoting Bond007 (Reply 13):



Quoting Bond007 (Reply 15):

I too recently purchased a Pro-97. It was on sale for $169.99 (Should've of waited cause it's on sale for $129 for Black Friday)

It is an excellent scanner with many options, but for a beginner like myself, it can be a bit overwhelming.
 
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RE: Scanners

Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:17 am

Try at Maplin electonics store.
you will find good one for less.
I have bought Maycom AR-108 for £39.
www.maplin.co.uk
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RE: Scanners

Sun Nov 25, 2007 2:11 pm



Quoting Super Em (Reply 27):
It is an excellent scanner with many options, but for a beginner like myself, it can be a bit overwhelming.

Yes, I agree. If all you want is to scan a handful of frequencies, then there is cheaper.

It sounds like the AR-108 is a good buy ... but no personal experience.


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RE: Scanners

Sun Nov 25, 2007 4:54 pm

Ive owned a AR-108 but I lost it in Imperial Hill at LAX. I liked its small size but it gave me troubles at LAX that it gave me some static noises when listening to tower eventhough I had the squelch set. Ive now got a Radio Shack Pro-82 scanner for $99 dollars. Its bigger than the AR-108 but at least I can hear LAX tower.

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