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FSX A/c Range Question.

Sat Apr 12, 2008 1:03 pm

I just have a question: Why do the aircrafts in FSX have so little range. I cant for example even make LAX-JFK non stop with the 738. In the reality you can do that route easily with the 738. Why is it like this??
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RE: FSX A/c Range Question.

Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:16 pm

What altitude and cruise mode are you using? Whats your payload?
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RE: FSX A/c Range Question.

Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:39 pm



Quoting Dw747400 (Reply 1):
What altitude and cruise mode are you using?

37.000ft and 0.79m. The loads are: Full fuel load, and 22850 pounds of payload.
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RE: FSX A/c Range Question.

Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:27 pm

Just click the engines stay on when out of fuel feature and you'll be fine ....  

[Edited 2008-04-12 12:28:32]
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RE: FSX A/c Range Question.

Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:42 pm



Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 3):
Just click the engines stay on when out of fuel feature and you'll be fine ....

He,he. True, but you cant do that in the reality, right??  Wink
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RE: FSX A/c Range Question.

Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:55 pm



Quoting B747forever (Reply 4):
He,he. True, but you cant do that in the reality, right??

It's a game, just don't tell anyone and no one will know ...  Wink Some things if FS are just so unrealistic that you have to cheat a bit now and then.

Also, if you're using the default 737 in FS, you may want to try an aftermarket add-on such as PMDG or POSKY for a more realistic experience. POSKY is free btw.
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RE: FSX A/c Range Question.

Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:12 pm



Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 5):
POSKY is free btw

Then will try POSKY. Do you know where I can find it??
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RE: FSX A/c Range Question.

Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:18 pm



Quoting B747forever (Reply 6):
Then will try POSKY. Do you know where I can find it??

http://www.projectopensky.com/

www.avsim.com is another great site, it's free as well but you have to regisiter.
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RE: FSX A/c Range Question.

Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:24 pm



Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 7):

Great thank you so much. What will I need to do to get the files to work?? Where shall I install them, in which map and so on???
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RE: FSX A/c Range Question.

Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:31 pm



Quoting B747forever (Reply 8):
What will I need to do to get the files to work?? Where shall I install them, in which map and so on???

Everything that you need is there, just download the base/model package of the aircraft you want and download the airline package you want. Download them into a designated folder, open them up and follow the instructions on where to put the files in your FS folder. Try avsim for some more realisitic engine sound files as well. The only other program you'll need is WinZip to unzip the downloaded files.
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RE: FSX A/c Range Question.

Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:44 pm



Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 9):

Thank you so much for everything. Will try if it works!!
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RE: FSX A/c Range Question.

Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:20 pm



Quoting B747forever (Reply 2):
37.000ft and 0.79m. The loads are: Full fuel load, and 22850 pounds of payload.

I can't make any promises that the model is accurate, but you may want to slow down a bit. BBJs I work with typically do .76 on long legs. Domestically they can do .80 transcons, but they have a lot more fuel and a lot less payload than a commercial 738.
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RE: FSX A/c Range Question.

Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:22 pm



Quoting Dw747400 (Reply 11):
but you may want to slow down a bit

Will try that. Hope it works.
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RE: FSX A/c Range Question.

Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:02 am

How's your step climbing?
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RE: FSX A/c Range Question.

Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:32 am



Quoting 9VSIO (Reply 13):
How's your step climbing?

When I climb to the cruise altitude, I climb everything between 1000-3500ft/min.
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RE: FSX A/c Range Question.

Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:13 am



Quoting B747forever (Reply 14):
Quoting 9VSIO (Reply 13):
How's your step climbing?

When I climb to the cruise altitude, I climb everything between 1000-3500ft/min.

A step climb is basically a climb done in steps to your cruising altitude. Let's say you want a cruising altitude of FL350, what you would do is maybe climb to FL280 and maintain that altitude until you've burned off fuel. Once the aircraft is lighter, you would climb to FL320 and maintain that altitude until you've burned more fuel. Once the aircraft has again become lighter, you continue your climb to FL350. Kind of like stairs. The idea is that this is the most fuel efficient way to climb to an altitude. Of course, it depends on your type of aircraft, weight of aircraft and atmospheric conditions.
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RE: FSX A/c Range Question.

Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:20 am



Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 15):
A step climb is basically a climb done in steps to your cruising altitude. Let's say you want a cruising altitude of FL350, what you would do is maybe climb to FL280 and maintain that altitude until you've burned off fuel. Once the aircraft is lighter, you would climb to FL320 and maintain that altitude until you've burned more fuel. Once the aircraft has again become lighter, you continue your climb to FL350. Kind of like stairs. The idea is that this is the most fuel efficient way to climb to an altitude. Of course, it depends on your type of aircraft, weight of aircraft and atmospheric conditions.

 thumbsup  but try to stay within the semicircular rules. Westboud fly at even flightlevels and eastbound at odd flightlevels. The 737 would be able to get to FL310 with MTOW and then as ACDC8 said, do the stepclimbs. Starting FL310 (eastbound from LAX to JFK) and ending maybe 370 or so. With that high load she won't get higher.

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RE: FSX A/c Range Question.

Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:37 am



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 16):
but try to stay within the semicircular rules. Westboud fly at even flightlevels and eastbound at odd flightlevels.

 checkmark  Same applies to VFR cruise altitudes, for example in Canada it would be 000°-179° is odd thousand feet plus 500 feet and 180°-359° is even thousand feet plus 500 feet.
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RE: FSX A/c Range Question.

Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:47 am



Quoting B747forever (Reply 14):
When I climb to the cruise altitude, I climb everything between 1000-3500ft/min.

That will affect fuel burn. Give it a go with step climbing. Climb to FL280, let fuel burn to 90% or so, then climb to FL320, then let fuel come down some more, then all the way up to FL390 (in increments). Don't let your speed bleed off too much in the climb, or it'll take forever to get back up to speed. It's much harder to manage this without a FMC. I've been having to judge manually on my CitationX to maximise its potential.

Also, what wind settings do you use?
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RE: FSX A/c Range Question.

Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:17 pm



Quoting 9VSIO (Reply 18):
Give it a go with step climbing.

Will try that.

Thank you for all help guys. You are really professional  Wink
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