kimberlyRJ
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New Aircraft Payware Add-on In The Pipe Line?

Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:36 pm

Hi

Does anyone know of any up and coming pay ware add-on aircraft on its way for FSX? I know in the distance (a line distance) PMDG is redoing their wonderful Boeing 737NG series of aircraft – but are there any other companies out there planning anything new? Level-D?

I did hear at one point of a company producing an Airbus A320, but I lost the website!

If anyone knows of any (even if they are still months/years away) please let me know what type and where to find them.

Many Thanks

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RE: New Aircraft Payware Add-on In The Pipe Line?

Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:21 am

Airsimmer is making an A320. I don't know when it's due out. But it looks to be a very high end simulation on par with PMDG..
 
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RE: New Aircraft Payware Add-on In The Pipe Line?

Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:46 am



Quoting JETPILOT (Reply 1):
Airsimmer is making an A320.

 checkmark  http://www.airsimmer.com/products320.htm

Quoting JETPILOT (Reply 1):
I don't know when it's due out.

They're keeping that very close to their chests but it seems to be in the latter stages now.

Quoting JETPILOT (Reply 1):
But it looks to be a very high end simulation on par with PMDG..

 checkmark  Some useful information and some videos here:

http://www.airsimmer.com/support/index.php?showforum=4
 
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RE: New Aircraft Payware Add-on In The Pipe Line?

Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:21 pm

I hope so.

I understand the issue with building Airbus aircraft for FS is that Airbus are not as helpful in releasing information as Boeing is. I must admit I would be suprised if it was as good as PMDG, but I hope to God that someone finally can produce an Airbus aircraft for FS that is good and stable!

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RE: New Aircraft Payware Add-on In The Pipe Line?

Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:47 pm



Quoting Kimberlyrj (Reply 3):
I understand the issue with building Airbus aircraft for FS is that Airbus are not as helpful in releasing information as Boeing is.

I suspect the Airbus "issue" is more to do with how differently FBW Airbuses behave from the way MSFS expects them to. I didn't see any mention of the information having been hard to get.

Quoting Kimberlyrj (Reply 3):
I must admit I would be suprised if it was as good as PMDG

Having followed the development and seen the videos, I wouldn't. As long as it sees the light of day, it will be superb.

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RE: New Aircraft Payware Add-on In The Pipe Line?

Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:54 pm

I should have added that the AirSimmer 320 will be released for FS9 first and FSX later - presumably because FSX didn't exist when they started development and the FS9 version can't just be recompiled/converted for FSX.
 
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RE: New Aircraft Payware Add-on In The Pipe Line?

Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:23 pm

Who knows when it will finaly come out, but Alphasim is wouking on a C-17 thats said to be pretty high end. Not to the PMDG level but a better flight deck than any other military aircraft. (Other than Falcon 4.0  yes  )
 
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RE: New Aircraft Payware Add-on In The Pipe Line?

Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:59 pm

I can add that all the developper groups have finally understood most of the FSX specific secrets, are working very hard now on exclusively FSX products and the next two years will see bunches of great products, from bush planes over GA, military up to the big irons. Just check simflight regularily, they have almost all the product on sales.
 
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RE: New Aircraft Payware Add-on In The Pipe Line?

Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:49 pm



Quoting Burkhard (Reply 7):
I can add that all the developper groups have finally understood most of the FSX specific secrets

The jump in "technology" between FS9 and FSX certainly seems to have hindered 3rd party development. On the plus side, the apparent hold in FS development (and let's hope that's all it is) should allow more time for 3rd party developers to catch up.
 
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RE: New Aircraft Payware Add-on In The Pipe Line?

Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:17 pm

Exactly. It took about 2 years until the addon market for FSX became bigger then the one for FS9, and just now after 3 years the FS9 market disappears. ( Below 10% ).

Making an addon for FSX is more complex than making it for FS9, so the last thing we could need is another Flight Simulator within the next 3 or 4 years.
 
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RE: New Aircraft Payware Add-on In The Pipe Line?

Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:58 pm

Surprised no-one's mentioned the QualityWings "Ultimate 757 Collection" so far...

http://www.qualitysim.com
 
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RE: New Aircraft Payware Add-on In The Pipe Line?

Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:58 am



Quoting ZSOFN (Reply 10):
Surprised no-one's mentioned the QualityWings "Ultimate 757 Collection"

Looks very good. However, after a few years of PMDG's 737NG, 744 and 744X, I desperately want a good Airbus add-on.  Smile
 
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RE: New Aircraft Payware Add-on In The Pipe Line?

Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:58 pm



Quoting David L (Reply 11):
Looks very good. However, after a few years of PMDG's 737NG, 744 and 744X, I desperately want a good Airbus add-on.

As do I.

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RE: New Aircraft Payware Add-on In The Pipe Line?

Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:23 pm



Quoting Kimberlyrj (Reply 12):
Looks very good. However, after a few years of PMDG's 737NG, 744 and 744X, I desperately want a good Airbus add-on.

I was speaking with several aircraft developers last weekend in Paderborn. The general conclusion is that many internal functions in MSFS about airliners are very Boeing specific hard coded, so that Airbus specific solutions cannot be implemented. This will need a completely new simulator, not based on any Microsoft code.
 
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RE: New Aircraft Payware Add-on In The Pipe Line?

Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:19 pm



Quoting Burkhard (Reply 13):
The general conclusion is that many internal functions in MSFS about airliners are very Boeing specific hard coded, so that Airbus specific solutions cannot be implemented.

I don't know about FSX but AirSimmer seem to have got around that in FS9, though they have apparently had to do a lot of their own programming "outside" of MSFS.
 
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RE: New Aircraft Payware Add-on In The Pipe Line?

Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:55 am

I cannot comment if they came as near to the real Airbis as PMDG comes to the real 747, but do not doubt they made a very good job.
 
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RE: New Aircraft Payware Add-on In The Pipe Line?

Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:38 am



Quoting Burkhard (Reply 15):
I cannot comment if they came as near to the real Airbis as PMDG comes to the real 747,

I'll let you be the judge...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLm3QASwsCU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdIIwaimRCg

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RE: New Aircraft Payware Add-on In The Pipe Line?

Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:20 pm

When will the Airsimmer A320 be available? I am amazed to be quite honest. I am not an Airbus fan really "I live by the saying if its not Boeing I'm not going  Wink" but this simulator looks great! Thanks for sharing it with us.
 
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RE: New Aircraft Payware Add-on In The Pipe Line?

Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:12 pm



Quoting PJFlysFast (Reply 17):
When will the Airsimmer A320 be available?

The FS9 version must be "nearly ready". They're into final testing. I guess it depends how the testing goes.

Quoting PJFlysFast (Reply 17):
"I live by the saying if its not Boeing I'm not going "

Mmmkay... Your loss.  Smile
 
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RE: New Aircraft Payware Add-on In The Pipe Line?

Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:33 pm



Quoting David L (Reply 18):
The FS9 version must be "nearly ready". They're into final testing. I guess it depends how the testing goes.

Great! i hope the FSX version will be too!

Quoting David L (Reply 18):
Mmmkay... Your loss.

I don't like airplanes made of glue and rubber bands is all! Just Kidding
 
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RE: New Aircraft Payware Add-on In The Pipe Line?

Mon Oct 12, 2009 3:16 pm

The Alpha Sim C-17 has been released. The VC/Panel still needs to be polished and will be released in about a month in a free update.

http://www.alphasim.co.uk
 
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RE: New Aircraft Payware Add-on In The Pipe Line?

Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:35 am

Didn't follow the airsimmer site, some well known names among them...
 
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RE: New Aircraft Payware Add-on In The Pipe Line?

Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:25 am



Quoting Burkhard (Reply 9):
and just now after 3 years the FS9 market disappears. ( Below 10% ).

As I have said in another thread it is my belief that those figures are distorted by dual compatibility software sales being assumed to be exclusively for FSX use. Many of us out here have bought new products that are FSX & FS9 compatible but solely use them in FS9.

I am very encouraged to see Airsimmers are going to launch their A320 as both FSX and FS9 versions.

Developers who think FS9 is dead and buried are simply not listening to the market.
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RE: New Aircraft Payware Add-on In The Pipe Line?

Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:17 pm

FYI, the Basic version of AirSimmer's A320 (for FS9 only) appears to be available now:

http://www.airsimmer.com/products.htm

Be warned that there's no guarantee you'll be able to upgrade from Basic to Advanced - they haven't decided yet.

I think I'm probably going to go for the Basic version for FS9 now and then the Advanced version for FSX when it's available.
 
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RE: New Aircraft Payware Add-on In The Pipe Line?

Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:05 am

Well PMDG released their BAe JS4100. Supposedly they are going to make a Dash 8 along with the 737NGX.
www.precisionmanuals.com

Captain Sim released the 767. If you like their products then that will be a plus for you!
www.captainsim.com

Wilco redid their ERJ series and released both FS9 and FSX models. I might consider that.
www.wilcopub.com

Carenado is working on a Beech Bonanza which seems promising. They also just released a Piper Saratoga for FSX. If you enjoy flying GA airplanes, like myself, check them out.
www.carenado.com

Dream Fleet was supposed to be working on a DC-8, but it seems like they may have gone under. I hate to assume, but it sure seems like it.
www.dreamfleet2000.com

Any other new releases??
 
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RE: New Aircraft Payware Add-on In The Pipe Line?

Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:42 am



Quoting Mariner63 (Reply 24):
Supposedly they are going to make a Dash 8

Where have you heard that?
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RE: New Aircraft Payware Add-on In The Pipe Line?

Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:06 pm



Quoting 787seattle (Reply 25):
Quoting Mariner63 (Reply 24):
Supposedly they are going to make a Dash 8

Where have you heard that?

PMDG mentioned it a few months ago when they initially announced that they were doing the BAe JS4100. They haven't specified which series yet. Here is the link.

http://forums1.avsim.net/index.php?s...6144d0b01585bb643&showtopic=264952
 
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RE: New Aircraft Payware Add-on In The Pipe Line?

Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:13 pm

Too bad there is no DHC8Q400 out or in works for FS9. I wont seem to be running FSX for some time now...
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RE: New Aircraft Payware Add-on In The Pipe Line?

Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:09 pm



Quoting Fabo (Reply 27):
Too bad there is no DHC8Q400 out or in works for FS9. I wont seem to be running FSX for some time now...

Check out the link right above your post. While PMDG did not specify if it will be the 400 series, there is a good chance.
 
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RE: New Aircraft Payware Add-on In The Pipe Line?

Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:19 pm



Quoting Mariner63 (Reply 26):
http://forums1.avsim.net/index.php?s...6144d0b01585bb643&showtopic=264952

Thanks for that. I must've missed it.

Quoting Fabo (Reply 27):
Too bad there is no DHC8Q400 out or in works for FS9. I wont seem to be running FSX for some time now...

Try searching for Dreamwings on Avsim. I'm pretty sure the FDE is crappy, but you can always find a new one. (Freeware obviously) The closest thing you might get to a Q400 payware is this: http://secure.simmarket.com/majestic...re-dash-8q-300-pilot-edition.phtml From what I hear, the Majestic is a quite advanced model.
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RE: New Aircraft Payware Add-on In The Pipe Line?

Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:38 am



Quoting Fabo (Reply 27):
Too bad there is no DHC8Q400 out or in works for FS9.



Quoting 787seattle (Reply 29):
The closest thing you might get to a Q400 payware is this: http://secure.simmarket.com/majestic...phtml

Majestic is currently developing a Q400 too. http://bit.ly/2H5Nk9


Just to mention another development that I don't recall seeing, CLS is developing a 767-200/300 + winglets, AWACS, cargo, and tanker versions. http://www.commerciallevel.com/news.php?actie=ntoon&id=104

This will be the 3rd payware 767 for flightsim that I know of.



Not to stray too far off the original topic...

Quoting 787seattle (Reply 29):
From what I hear, the Majestic is a quite advanced model.

Fairly advanced, very expensive, and slightly buggy (at least on my computer). On their website, they sell it with 3 different levels of systems complexity, each stepping up in price. I opted for the cheapest, least complex version, which is fine for my purposes. Still, Ctrl+E won't start the engines, if that tells you anything...You'll at least have to read the manual for that part. It flies well, and seemingly faithful to a Q300. My only complaint for the flight model is that the throttle on the joystick controls everything from full reverse to maximum torque. This is tricky during landing, and I wish the developers would have chosen use the conventional commands, at least for the least complex model. This might benefit somebody with a large flight simming throttle quadrant with a gated power lever for reverse, however, so maybe that was their logic. I would still consider their Q400 if it looks nice though. I imagine it will be a good product. Sorry to stray off topic...
 
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RE: New Aircraft Payware Add-on In The Pipe Line?

Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:27 pm

Guys, you seem to miss one point - Majestic openly said their Q400 will be FSX only, and PMDG now does things for FSX only as well (see J41, NG-X).

And thing is, I dont want 300, I just cant find myself liking it (not so for Q400, which I find beautiful for some reason)
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RE: New Aircraft Payware Add-on In The Pipe Line?

Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:41 am

Does anybody know where I can get a quality add on for the 737NG similar to the one Wilco has for the classic 737's.With functioning FMS Accurate Auto pilot and Glass Cockpit Functions. Thanks

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