jetplaner
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ATC Scanner Suggestions

Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:26 am

Ok, so as my birthday is coming up in a few weeks, I am wondering if an ATC scanner is worth asking for? How close to the airport do you have to be to the airport for proper reception? If one is worth having, what one would you recommend?

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xero9
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RE: ATC Scanner Suggestions

Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:47 pm

I live in Ajax, ON, about 8 miles as the crow flies from the Oshawa airport and my handheld scanner can pick up some (maybe all?) aircraft, and while I can tell ATC is responding, it's too broken up to make out anything they're saying.

Maybe there are better, more powerful scanners or perhaps a better antenna? I was wondering the same thing as well and finally decided to bite the bullet and pick up an inexpensive one for fun. It's a little disappointing for me at least.

But hey, I can take it to Buttonville and listen to what's going on  Smile
 
flybaurlax
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RE: ATC Scanner Suggestions

Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:30 pm

I have an Icom IC-A5 which I got during my private flight training. It is very handy to have, and I have used it twice in situations where it would eased up the situation from failures in the plane. Granted it's not just a scanner, but I primarily just use it for that when I'm not flying. My parents house is in Northridge in LA, which is exactly 24 miles from the LAX control tower. Even though there is a mountain range between my house and LAX, if I place my hand held in a certain spot in my room I can hear traffic going in and out of LAX, and even hear the tower! It amazes me that I can hear it, even though you can't see the tower (it's not line of sight with the mountain between). Anyways, it's a pretty awesome hand held, and I've actually had a few conversations with Phil (an old now retired controller from VNY) when there was nothing going on and I was just hanging out at the airport. It may be pricey just for listening with, but I've never had anything but good experiences with it.
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Maverick623
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RE: ATC Scanner Suggestions

Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:05 am



Quoting FlybaurLAX (Reply 2):
It amazes me that I can hear it, even though you can't see the tower (it's not line of sight with the mountain between)

That's because the transmitter is on top of the mountain  wink 
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flybaurlax
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RE: ATC Scanner Suggestions

Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:01 pm



Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 3):
That's because the transmitter is on top of the mountain wink

How do you know? I'm just curious.
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RE: ATC Scanner Suggestions

Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:01 am



Quoting FlybaurLAX (Reply 4):

How do you know? I'm just curious.

Well, for one it's logic. VHF radio is line of sight, with some exceptions that wouldn't apply to you.

That and I remember a story during a wildfire last year that almost made its way up to the towers.
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flybaurlax
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RE: ATC Scanner Suggestions

Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:26 pm



Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 5):
Well, for one it's logic. VHF radio is line of sight

I'm aware it's line of sight, but I was wondering if you knew the locations of them.
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AC033heavy
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RE: ATC Scanner Suggestions

Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:15 pm

Living in Ottawa, im approx 20km from the airport and i get ATC clear, and most aircraft going over. I get Montreal high altitude perfectly clear, which is nice also. You dont need to spend a fortune on a radio if all you want is air. Uniden Bearcats with the airband are great, easy to program and they work very well. Go with a portable. If you want to buy in Canada, Durham radio in whitby is good or radioworld in Toronto, otherwise use scannermaster out of the states.

duhamradio.com
radioworld.ca
scannermaster.com

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RE: ATC Scanner Suggestions

Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:20 am

You may already know this, but i forgot to add this to my previous post. There is also
Liveatc.net where you can listen to just about any ATC in Canada. I put Toronto up on my computer and listen all day at work. Its great. Its another avenue if you dont want to put out the cash for a radio. JFK is great to listen to also.


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RE: ATC Scanner Suggestions

Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:59 am

I have been using an Uniden Bearcat 150 XLT for the past 6 years and the equipment still continues to function flawlessly how ever the performance of the battery pack has deteriorated over the time but that something which happens to every batter pack once it reaches its max recharge cycle.

Well I stay around 8 miles away from the closest airport which is VOTV (Trivandrum International Airport) and the receiver is capable of picking up the signals from the Approach and Area controllers without a hitch using its own antenna. Since these receivers basically works on the principle of line of sight we can generally hear the pilots while airborne more clear than the ATC however, ever since I have connected the scanner to an homemade Rectangular Antenna installed on top of my house via a co axial cable the receptive capacity had improved over 70%. Yes I said 70%. So now the receiver picks up the signals from Tower, Ground as well as Several Airline company channels. Also I can hear Aircrafts at their cruise level from around 80-100 miles away contacting the Area Controllers in Trivandrum on a fine day. I have also used the same while I was working in Mumbai where I used to stay at the top most floor of a 7 story apartment and the performance of the Scanner even without and external Antenna was just awesome. Hope this helps..Good luck with you!!!

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George
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jetplaner
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RE: ATC Scanner Suggestions

Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:35 am

Thanks for all the help guys. Tomorrow I am off to the radio shack, so if I don't find anything, I'll order online. These suggestions have been really helpful!  Smile

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AC033heavy
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RE: ATC Scanner Suggestions

Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:51 am

Let us know what you decide to go with.

Peter
 
jetplaner
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RE: ATC Scanner Suggestions

Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:35 pm

Ok, so after visiting the Radioshack (now The Source) and asking the guy there if they had any air traffic scanners, he didn't seem to know what I was asking for. Neither did the folks at Visions Electronics. So I ordered an Icom IC-R5 from Radioworld in Torono (thanks Peter for the suggestion!) The price there was $230.00 CAD, which was fine because I am not the one paying for it. My dad said to not buy a cheap one, so he can't complain about that. I will have to post something here after trying it out once it arrives, but everything I've read about it so far seems like its the perfect scanner. I can hardly wait until it arrives  bouncy  Thanks again for all the help everyone!

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AC033heavy
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RE: ATC Scanner Suggestions

Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:06 am

Icom R5 is a good radio, reception is good with it and its small!. The only thing you might find annoying with it is the fact it has no keyboard to program it. It takes a little while longer to do, but im sure you will have a good time with it. Its good it has the complete range so you can get the military air freq also with it. If you need any frequency info let me know. Email me off the board and i will get you the info.

Peter

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Fly2HMO
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RE: ATC Scanner Suggestions

Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:50 pm



Quoting Jetplaner (Reply 12):
Ok, so after visiting the Radioshack (now The Source) and asking the guy there if they had any air traffic scanners, he didn't seem to know what I was asking for. Neither did the folks at Visions Electronics

*sigh* I'm willing to bet they had scanners there right in their faces covering the air band frequency and they didn't even know it  banghead 

I got mine from radioshack.
 
AC033heavy
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RE: ATC Scanner Suggestions

Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:14 am

Just wondering if you got your radio yet, and how it was working. Im heading to toronto this weekend to do some spotting, and shopping at Aviation world.

Peter
 
jetplaner
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RE: ATC Scanner Suggestions

Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:23 am

I have got it, but haven't really had an opportunity to use it, because of the distance I live from the airport I don't get much reception, although I do occasionally hear aircraft and the tower. So far, though, I really like it. It has been really easy to use as it has a great user interface. I haven't figured out all the features yet though. I will definately take it next time I go out to the airport!

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AC033heavy
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RE: ATC Scanner Suggestions

Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:36 am

Thats good, i hope you get to use it often. Make sure you take it with you when you travel. So there were no problems with the delivery, it arrived in good shape. Radioworld is usually pretty good when shipping stuff.

Peter

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