flynlr
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FSX New PC Build WOW!

Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:31 am

I had been running FSX with many MegaScenery X titles and the PMDG 747-400X on a AMD5600 System with a ATI 3870
Video card and was OK with that. I just built a new PC with the ATI HD5850 Video and AMD Phenom II 965 and 4Gb memory and let me tell you , it was like night and day. the visual improvement and frame rate jump is amazing. using this video card with an I7 Intel or the AMD chip I used will bring amazing performance increases to you FXS enjoyment.

for those interested in the build itself here is a photo log of the assembly .
http://picasaweb.google.com/flynlr/NewPCBuild#

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RE: FSX New PC Build WOW!

Fri Mar 05, 2010 4:22 am

Quoting flynlr (Thread starter):
the visual improvement and frame rate jump is amazing

Definte "amazing" - what kind of FPS are you getting with sliders maxed, lots of AI at say KLGA?

Quoting flynlr (Thread starter):
I just built a new PC with the ATI HD5850 Video and AMD Phenom II 965 and 4Gb memory and let me tell you , it was like night and day.

Do you mind my asking what that set you back? I'm contemplating having a system built around a nice i7 chip but need to figure out where to go to have it done and how much I can anticipate spending.
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RE: FSX New PC Build WOW!

Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:13 am

I just flew the PMDG 747 out of LGA all sliders maxed at 1920*1080 with the rates set to unlimited.
I was bouncing between 25 and 30FPS this is with all sliders maxed traffic weather scenery et all .
cost was between 1100 and 1200 I don't have the exact numbers. I bought the parts over a couple of months,.
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RE: FSX New PC Build WOW!

Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:43 am

The ATI 5000s really are a brake through, currently ATI is ahead of Nvidia with FSX for the first time.
 
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RE: FSX New PC Build WOW!

Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:32 am

Nice, I recently did some upgrading in the computer department to get FSX running properly. Since I enjoy PMDG planes and now all they make is addons for FSX I needed to get with the times and break away from FS9.

I ended up with:

Core i7 920 which is now overclocked to 3.7 ghz
6 gb of Corsair DDR3-1600
Asus P6T motherboard
nVidia GTX 285 video card
Soundblaster X-Fi Titanium sound
Corsair 750 PSU
Two 22" monitors. One is a LG that runs at 1920X1080 and the other runs at 1680 X 1050.

Couple of 500 gb WD Black edition HDD's as well.

In FSX with UT2 traffic at FSDreamteam KORD shortly after takeoff with the whole airport in view, FSX sliders either all High or Ultra High using REX2 textures and ASE I get 22 FPS with the thing set to "unlimited" in the PMDG 747-400. I get 26 with the 747-8 for some reason.

Sure gotta spend $$$ to have a decent flight-sim experience these days.
 
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RE: FSX New PC Build WOW!

Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:58 am

Quoting ywgfarmer (Reply 4):
Sure gotta spend $$$ to have a decent flight-sim experience these days.

So what did that rig set you back? And were you running any AI when getting those framerates on FSX?
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RE: FSX New PC Build WOW!

Fri Mar 12, 2010 3:51 pm

I've kind of collected the parts over a period of time, I'm guessing I paid about $1500 for this thing once all was said and done. I picked up an Noctua NH-U12P CPU cooler for it yesterday so now I'm running 4 ghz stable.

I was using Ultimate Traffic 2 for traffic, yes, but no GA traffic. ATC talking to all the GA planes annoys me. I have all the airlines at 100% though.
 
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RE: FSX New PC Build WOW!

Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:17 am

Quoting ywgfarmer (Reply 4):
Sure gotta spend $$$ to have a decent flight-sim experience these days.

Isn't that the truth, I just started ordering the parts to build me a new one and I'm basically building it around FSX. My current one is just now a year old, its got an Intel 2.66 (I think), 2 GB ram, and a fairly cheap motherboard. It runs great but I have to keep the sliders down and I only get 20 FPS and it's hard to make stuff out till your right on top of it. After reading what you all have I know I'll be good once I get my new one built. Just have to wait for the case to order the rest of my parts. So far I have the ASUS Rampage II extreme board, GE Force 9400 video card, and a 1TB hard drive. I just ordered the soundblaster x-fi sound card tonight. I'll probably wind up putting 12 GB of memory in it and will be getting the I7 soon. Corsair has a 24GB package but its not available yet.   Might be a little overkill but it shouldn't need upgrading for a while. Will post an update when I get it done and let you all know how it does. Happy Flying!!!
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RE: FSX New PC Build WOW!

Sat Apr 03, 2010 1:29 am

Quoting 757luver (Reply 7):
GE Force 9400 video card

Wait, you already have a GeForce 9400 and you're going to buy something else or that's the card you're planning on using? A 9400 is a fairly weak card for FSX. I still use my 512MB 8800GT and it works but if I was buying new I'd want something more powerful. Why not something from this list?

And honestly, I'd recommend not bothering with that much RAM. I have 8GB and that is overkill. 6GB is the most that I would get.
 
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RE: FSX New PC Build WOW!

Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:01 pm

Quoting 757luver (Reply 7):
GE Force 9400 video card

I strongly believe this is your limiting factor. A quick sampling from NewEgg shows numerous ATi 4700/4800 series below $100. That would be a great initial upgrade!

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 8):
And honestly, I'd recommend not bothering with that much RAM. I have 8GB and that is overkill. 6GB is the most that I would get.

Ditto. My 4gb works just fine. Of course I'm still running XP, because 2001 doesn't seem that long ago to me!  
 
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RE: FSX New PC Build WOW!

Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:57 am

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 8):
Wait, you already have a GeForce 9400 and you're going to buy something else or that's the card you're planning on using? A 9400 is a fairly weak card for FSX. I still use my 512MB 8800GT and it works but if I was buying new I'd want something more powerful. Why not something from this list?

And honestly, I'd recommend not bothering with that much RAM. I have 8GB and that is overkill. 6GB is the most that I would get.

I have the GeForce 9400, but I'm still waiting for the case I ordered to get the rest of my parts so I haven't assembled the computer yet. I'll have to take a look at the list you provided and get something else. I'll just slap the 9400 into the desktop I have now. Thanks for letting me know about that.

But it's a little late about the memory, I've already got the boards. I'm basically building it for FSX but I'm also wanting it to be powerful so I won't have to worry about a new one, till they bring more toys out that is. Thanks again. One other thing, where is a good site to download plane add ons? It don't matter if it's a pay sight, I make more money than I know what to do with half the time...LOL!!!!
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RE: FSX New PC Build WOW!

Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:31 am

Quoting 757luver (Reply 10):
make more money than I know what to do with half the time...LOL!!!!

Have a look at ConcordeX (Google it) or any of the PMDG planes. All of them appropriately expensive, but all of them appropriately excellent too. Otherwise, you can spend enormous amounts of money on scenery. Get ActiveSkyEvolution - and XGraphics from the same lot. Immediate and big improvements.

Get FSUIPC, (pay version) because it has handy features for smoothing errant and severe weather changes (and forcing weather updates to be more frequent). Both those features will make flight smoother in very advanced planes.

Otherwise, spend your money on the fastest Intel Core i7 9xx you can find. Get a the most enormously overkill kind of heatsink and fan solution to cool it - some allow a fan on either side of vertical orientated heatsinks, and they work brilliantly. Get a really, really fast disk drive to run FSX on, and buy lots of ram. And get the fastest video card you can find. Dual video card solutions appear to offer only minor improvement, if any - so most of the improvements will come from RAM, CPU and HDD.
 
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RE: FSX New PC Build WOW!

Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:59 am

Quoting cpd (Reply 11):
Otherwise, spend your money on the fastest Intel Core i7 9xx you can find. Get a the most enormously overkill kind of heatsink and fan solution to cool it - some allow a fan on either side of vertical orientated heatsinks, and they work brilliantly. Get a really, really fast disk drive to run FSX on, and buy lots of ram. And get the fastest video card you can find. Dual video card solutions appear to offer only minor improvement, if any - so most of the improvements will come from RAM, CPU and HDD.

I am going to get the i7 975 extreme edition, it's advertised speed is 3.33GHZ. Just don't remember if thats stock or not. I have the Cooler Master V8 already and 12 gigs of Corsair RAM. I'm kind of second guessing the specs I come up with but it should be good to go for quite a few years at least.
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RE: FSX New PC Build WOW!

Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:20 am

That should be stock. Cool it very well, and the turboboost will help a bit more.

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