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FS9/FSX Best Freeware Thread

Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:34 pm

As we've had the payware thread we might as well have a best freeware one. I've omitted "worst" from the title as I don't think you can really have a go at freeware designers, they do it in their spare time and are not taking your hard earned cash off you. If it's not up to standard you delete and move on having not lost anything.

So what free stuff has really impressed you to the point you would have paid for it?

Mine are:

Any of David Maltby's classic British jets especially the One Eleven, if you download it all you've got a top notch £30 package for free! If you've not tried it give it a go, the VC is better than a lot of payware I have in my bookcase.

IRIS Tornado F3.Highly detailed and brilliant for a good blast around the sky and being a general hooligan  
It's also very stable and responsive, 500mph 50 feet above Loch Ness is a piece of cake and it's a doddle to land.

HJG 707. Very good model and panel, can be a bit tricky but I guess the real one could be a bugger to handle too. The black smoke effect is brilliant, takes me back to watching them roar into the skies above LHR.

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RE: FS9/FSX Best Freeware Thread

Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:25 pm

For me.

The Project Airbus A380, beautifully modeled, and handles like a charm!

Certainly with a nicely done panel and a cool set of sounds you will have an enjoyable package.

I also enjoy the rest of their Airbuses.

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RE: FS9/FSX Best Freeware Thread

Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:36 pm

Project Tupolev Tu-154M.

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RE: FS9/FSX Best Freeware Thread

Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:37 pm

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 1):
For me.

The Project Airbus A380, beautifully modeled, and handles like a charm!

Certainly with a nicely done panel and a cool set of sounds you will have an enjoyable package.

I also enjoy the rest of their Airbuses.

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I'd forgotten about project Airbus when I posted. Very good stuff, I fly the A32X series with the Ken Mitchell panel, a great combination!
 
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RE: FS9/FSX Best Freeware Thread

Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:21 pm

Quoting GBLKD (Thread starter):
HJG 707

I'd say most of their stuff is really good for being freeware. I'm really lokking forward to the eventual release of their MD-80/90 aircraft.

I also LOVE LOVE LOVE Manfred Jahn & Co.'s Lockheed Constellation series. It works beautifully even in FSX, and is extraordinarily detailed- it's got animated wipers, a full flight engineer's panel, automated callouts based on functions (like gear up, flaps extending, etc.) and bunch of other things. I've had a little trouble with the 1049G model (the engines always shut down about 10 minutes in- maybe that's programmed in for overheating?), but overall, it's an excellent series.

I'll also go out on a bit of a limb and say Project Opensky/Free Sky Project for the exterior models. Unfortunately you can't really fly any of their planes as-is because their FDEs are virtually unusable, and may God have mercy on your soul if you try to tell them that. With tweaking, though, they can be really great little planes to fly.
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RE: FS9/FSX Best Freeware Thread

Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:00 pm

Quoting UltimateDelta (Reply 4):
I'll also go out on a bit of a limb and say Project Opensky/Free Sky Project for the exterior models. Unfortunately you can't really fly any of their planes as-is because their FDEs are virtually unusable, and may God have mercy on your soul if you try to tell them that. With tweaking, though, they can be really great little planes to fly.

Where can you find alternative FDEs? I've searched around and haven't been able to find anything.

One of my favorite freeware aircraft is the Dreamwings E170, with Ken Mitchell's ERJ panel and an upgraded engine sound, this is one great little aircraft to fly! For Posky, I tend to often fly their B757-200 with winglets and their Embraer Legacy 600. I have their B777 series installed, but yet have to try it out.

Because I am addicted to the AI aircraft that adds to the experience, I also heavily use EditVoicePack so that I have the realistic callsigns in use and a program called ACA2005 that is very helpful for editing aircraft.cfg files, generating timetables for airports and so on. And I cannot remember the name of it now, but it was a SDK released by Microsoft for FS2004 that when placed in the Modules folder, you get a new menu choice in FS2004 that shows you the aircraft in the area with you, if they are flying, where to and where from, when they will fly and much more valuable info.
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RE: FS9/FSX Best Freeware Thread

Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:45 pm

Quoting UltimateDelta (Reply 4):
Unfortunately you can't really fly any of their planes as-is because their FDEs are virtually unusable, and may God have mercy on your soul if you try to tell them that. With tweaking, though, they can be really great little planes to fly.

Nonsense, the weights and fuel numbers are what are most important, and they are right on the money with these throughout the series. If you don't like how the planes handle, it is very easy to change. Just go into the aircraft.cfg file and modify the aileron/elevator/rudder effectiveness figures until you arrive at the type of control response you prefer. Takes a minute or two, no less.
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RE: FS9/FSX Best Freeware Thread

Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:29 pm

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 6):
If you don't like how the planes handle, it is very easy to change. Just go into the aircraft.cfg file and modify the aileron/elevator/rudder effectiveness figures until you arrive at the type of control response you prefer. Takes a minute or two, no less.

That's what I've done, but don't think a lot of people realize that. I think a lot of people just jump in the sim, say "WTF is wrong with this plane", delete it, and don't give it a second thought. That's what I *used to* do myself.

Quoting csturdiv (Reply 5):
Where can you find alternative FDEs?

For some of their aircraft, alternative/updated FDEs are available on the site. I guess I should have mentioned that.

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RE: FS9/FSX Best Freeware Thread

Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:14 pm

Quoting csturdiv (Reply 5):
One of my favorite freeware aircraft is the Dreamwings E170, with Ken Mitchell's ERJ panel

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RE: FS9/FSX Best Freeware Thread

Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:23 am

I just posted some screenes of Jordan Moore's Bell 412 in Cpd's thread. It's by far the best freeware in the heli-sim world! It's super realistic and detailed so you have to learn about the ship to fly the sim. And, it's not easy.
I learn more everytime I fly it and it never gets boring. One of my absolute faves!
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RE: FS9/FSX Best Freeware Thread

Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:21 am

Any of the aircraft done by the three design groups prefixed 'Project'.

Project Airbus
Project Opensky
Project Fokker

Great models and easy to add custom sounds and cockpits.
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RE: FS9/FSX Best Freeware Thread

Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:46 am

Just came across one of the nicest sceneries (especially since it's FREE)...it's sunskyjet's KPHL freeware scenery. Have a look-see over at the screenie thread.  
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RE: FS9/FSX Best Freeware Thread

Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:10 am

Quoting TheBatman (Reply 11):
Just came across one of the nicest sceneries (especially since it's FREE)...it's sunskyjet's KPHL

Yeah I have that installed as well. Koru Tiki paid PHL a visit just because of that excellent scenery. Even has a branch of IKEA just for AerD.
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RE: FS9/FSX Best Freeware Thread

Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:25 am

Quoting TheBatman (Reply 11):
Just came across one of the nicest sceneries (especially since it's FREE)...it's sunskyjet's KPHL freeware scenery. Have a look-see over at the screenie thread.
Quoting EDICHC (Reply 12):

Yeah I have that installed as well. Koru Tiki paid PHL a visit just because of that excellent scenery. Even has a branch of IKEA just for AerD.

I've seen that scenery before, it's beautiful. I'm just wondering how it does on frames for you guys, I run FS9 off a laptop, so obviously, with full AI, complex scenery like that can really slow to a crawl.
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RE: FS9/FSX Best Freeware Thread

Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:56 am

Best freeware is a toughie there is a lot of good ones,

In no particilur order

Tom Ruth A330/40 series
Tom Ruth 727
PA A320
Posky 747-400 with VC

Also I have a DC6 which is pretty cool but I dont know where I got it,

All have great VC's and handle brilliantly (sometimes I wonder why Tom Ruth is free)
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RE: FS9/FSX Best Freeware Thread

Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:26 am

I do prefer these aircraft in terms of freeware
Posky 747
Posky 767
Posky 757
SGA MD-80
SGA DC-9
SGA 717
Dreamwings E170
AIA is the best with AI models
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Well the CamSim 787 is not great but we either have that or payware Abacus. His models are fine and the 787 is easy to make repaints for (I made a UA/CO 787 and posted it on Avsim and Flightsim) But it needs more detail if you ask me.

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RE: FS9/FSX Best Freeware Thread

Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:03 am

Quoting san747 (Reply 13):
I've seen that scenery before, it's beautiful. I'm just wondering how it does on frames for you guys, I run FS9 off a laptop, so obviously, with full AI, complex scenery like that can really slow to a crawl.

It's not bad on the frames. Although with full AI there can be problems with slow downs.
I do seem to get better frames with UK2000s LHR xtreme with busy AI than I do here. However, Gary has done a fantastic job with optimization which could explain the decent frames.
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RE: FS9/FSX Best Freeware Thread

Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:51 pm

Quoting TheBatman (Reply 8):
Quoting csturdiv (Reply 5):
One of my favorite freeware aircraft is the Dreamwings E170, with Ken Mitchell's ERJ panel

This is why I love A.net...I'm going to go find this bird right now!

If you have troubles finding the panel let me know, I have it archived on my computer. Not sure if the panel was lost in the AVSIM hack or not. I believe the Dreamwings E170 model is still available.

Quoting UltimateDelta (Reply 7):
For some of their aircraft, alternative/updated FDEs are available on the site. I guess I should have mentioned that.

I'll have to look again, I was hoping to find a better FDE for their BBJ model as I was not to impressed the first time I flew it.

Quoting ZKNCL (Reply 15):
AIA is the best with AI models

Depends on the models, other models are available for older AIA aircraft that are better (AIG's B752 and B753 for example), But AI models from Aardvark, The Fruit Stand, Alpha India Group, DJC, AI Malcontent are great, plus for Russian metal there is SBAI, RATS, RMAI, CIS Traffic Team and others. I still have some of the older models from Project AI installed (B747SP, Embraer Legacy, ATP and so on) and some older SKJ models installed.
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RE: FS9/FSX Best Freeware Thread

Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:54 pm

Quoting EDICHC (Reply 10):
Project Opensky

The only thing I don't really like about their models is the huge turn radius on the ground. Which part of the .cfg controls this characteristic?
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RE: FS9/FSX Best Freeware Thread

Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:43 pm

Quoting EDICHC (Reply 12):
Even has a branch of IKEA just for AerD.

I remember the IKEA shot. Did not recall that being PHL, though. Good times!
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RE: FS9/FSX Best Freeware Thread

Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:49 pm

Quoting GAIsweetGAI (Reply 18):
The only thing I don't really like about their models is the huge turn radius on the ground.

Yeah the 747 can be a bit of a handful on the ground, I just take any corners very slowly. Mucking about with the cfg files other than for livery changes is way, way above my head.   
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RE: FS9/FSX Best Freeware Thread

Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:52 pm

Quoting csturdiv (Reply 17):
I'll have to look again, I was hoping to find a better FDE for their BBJ model as I was not to impressed the first time I flew it.

I guess I was thinking of their other aircraft- I can't find anything for the 737. You might just have to play around with the ones already in there. (I know for a fact the Embraer aircraft have fixed FDEs)
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RE: FS9/FSX Best Freeware Thread

Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:17 pm

Quoting GAIsweetGAI (Reply 18):
The only thing I don't really like about their models is the huge turn radius on the ground. Which part of the .cfg controls this characteristic?

All of the updated FDEs have fixed that issue.

Quoting EDICHC (Reply 20):
Yeah the 747 can be a bit of a handful on the ground, I just take any corners very slowly. Mucking about with the cfg files other than for livery changes is way, way above my head.

That would be realistic then. Taxi speeds on the real 747 are limited to very low speeds for corners.

But changing the cfg filed is quite easy - for rudder effectiveness for instance, which would affect ground steering, higher values = more brisk response, lower values = slower response. Just a matter of scrolling down to them, changing the numbers to something higher or lower, and clicking save.
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RE: FS9/FSX Best Freeware Thread

Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:48 am

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 22):
Taxi speeds on the real 747 are limited to very low speeds for corners.

That may be true, but I'm here to tell ya that the real airplane handles a heck of a lot better than the POSKY one. That huge turn
radius is a little exaggerated.
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RE: FS9/FSX Best Freeware Thread

Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:50 am

Quoting csturdiv (Reply 17):
If you have troubles finding the panel let me know

It took awhile, but I found it...simviation I think...thanks!
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