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Timetable Collectors...brick And Mortar Sellers?

Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:23 am

The advent of Ebay has undoubtedly made shopping for airline timetables easier. But, an unfortunate result is that the aviation hobby storefront (books, ephemera, etc.) has largely gone by the wayside in this wired age.

Over several years here in the Los Angeles area, we've lost several brick-and-mortar timetable sellers. Among the more notable of the dearly departed:

The Nostalgic Aviator - located near KBUR on Hollywood Way and Magnolia Blvd. Moved to San Diego, then disappeared after a couple of years.

William Byrd Aviation Books - Lomita Blvd in Lomita, CA, not far from KTOA . Though the primary focus was that of bookseller (and a damn good one at that), Mr. Byrd would occasionally receive timetables. Though never really that interested in tts, he nevertheless maintianed a small tt inventory.

The name of the last one completely slips my mind. Back in the mid 90s, originally located in Norwalk, CA (near the Greyhound station). Then moved to the Compton (KCPM) Airport where he maintained a small trailier for display space, and a T-hangar for storage. Once, this gentleman let me have a look inside of that hangar. Some of the stuff (timetable wise)...absolutely incredible. This wonderful gentleman was somewhat aged and sickly back then and has likely passed on.

I also used to do business with New Yorker who had a transportation ephemera store - Arnold B. Joseph

As for current day brick and mortar timetable sellers, I really know of only one - Grayland Station in Chicago.

So, my fellow airline timetable collectors - are any of you doing business with a storefront seller? Name of seller/store and location would be greatly appreciated.
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RE: Timetable Collectors...brick And Mortar Sellers?

Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:48 pm

Quoting aaway (Thread starter):
I also used to do business with New Yorker who had a transportation ephemera store - Arnold B. Joseph

Arnold and I were friends for about 15 years after I moved to NYC in 1985. Sadly he died in December 2000. I was one of his last customers, if not the last. I stopped by his place the night before I was going to fly out to California for Christmas. I picked up a book for my Dad. Arnold was going into the hospital the next day and I heard that he died a couple of days later. I knew he had not been feeling well, but was not aware of just how serious his condition was.

As for current timetable sellers, I'd recommend David Keller:
http://www.airlinetimetables.com/

Also I'd recommend going to one of the airline collectible shows:
http://www.vcibackup.com/wahs/showinfo.html
 
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RE: Timetable Collectors...brick And Mortar Sellers?

Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:15 pm

Quoting psa188 (Reply 1):
Arnold and I were friends for about 15 years...

It's indeed a small world!

I first became acquainted wth Mr. Joseph in the 1982/1983 timeframe. He used to place ads in one of the airliner/aviation mags (can't remember which one it was!) of that day.

Our business was transacted strictly via mail - I'd request his list, mail a letter indicating my wants, submit my payment and he'd (quickly) reply. After doing that for about three years, I finally called him. I can still remember the initial portion of that first phone conversation. I identified myself and greeted him, and his reply, "Oh yes, you're the gentleman who sends me the nice letters!" Lol, it impressed me that he referred to me as a gentleman, considering I was still a teenager at the time.

Quoting psa188 (Reply 1):
As for current timetable sellers, I'd recommend David Keller

I've been doing business with Dave for about 20 years now. He's certainly the go to guy for timetable collectors, though I sometimes take umbrage with his prices.

Quoting psa188 (Reply 1):
Also I'd recommend going to one of the airline collectible shows

Yeah, I occassionally attend the L.A. shows and absolutely love the DFW show (though haven't attended in several years now).

I suppose what prompted this thread was merely a case of waxing nostalgic this past weekend. I flew the well-publicized Jetblue LGB-BUR-LGB jaunt. Instead of flying right back on the turn, I took the 4 hour stopover which gave me the opportunity to visit another old haunt - Autobooks-Aerobooks. The Nostalgic Aviator store was located on Magnolia and Hollywood Way, which is just a couple of blocks away from the bookstore location.

I kind of miss being able to walk into that hobbyist storefront, sifting through dusty bins or boxes and finding treasure only an ephemera collector could appreciate.

Thanks for the update regarding Mr. Joseph (R.I.P. kind sir!) BTW, do you know what became of his store?

PSA188, thanks for the reply and the walk down memory lane!

Any other tt collectors doing business on a storefront basis?
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RE: Timetable Collectors...brick And Mortar Sellers?

Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:53 pm

Quoting aaway (Reply 2):

I've been doing business with Dave for about 20 years now. He's certainly the go to guy for timetable collectors, though I sometimes take umbrage with his prices.

Well, I know he sells collections on consignment, so in those cases, the price has to make it worth while for him to take his cut on top of what goes to the owner.

Quoting aaway (Reply 2):
do you know what became of his store?

Unfortunately, although we were friends, Arnold didn't share his estate planning details with me. I'm sure he had someone lined up to close his estate but as far as I know the business didn't continue after his death.

Quoting aaway (Reply 2):
Any other tt collectors doing business on a storefront basis?

Back in the late 1970s, I remember visiting a dealer in rail and air timetables just north of downtown Chicago. "Owen Davies" comes vaguely to mind, but it's been a long time. Does that business still exist?
 
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RE: Timetable Collectors...brick And Mortar Sellers?

Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:19 am

Quoting aaway (Thread starter):
As for current day brick and mortar timetable sellers, I really know of only one - Grayland Station in Chicago.

Steve Mazanek, the owner, is a gentleman and a scholar, and as far as I know the only seller of acid-free timetable sleeves.

Quoting psa188 (Reply 1):
As for current timetable sellers, I'd recommend David Keller:

David is one of the best, as is Perry Sloan out of Utah.

If you all know of anyone else, please let me know. I specialize in the carriers that had major hubs in the Midwest ( mainly Braniff II, Midway I, Ozark and TWA ). Looking to build on the 500+ collection I know have.
 
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RE: Timetable Collectors...brick And Mortar Sellers?

Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:06 am

Dear all, Somehow out of topic, but I have some spare timetables on paper: Iberia, Spanair, Brussels Airlines... and some small ones (credit card size), for instance, AA European Schedule Winter 2005/2006, which I would be willing to trade. Regards.
A300.10.19.20.21.30.40,AN26,ATR42,AVR146,B717.27.37.47.57.77,B1900,C130,C212,CH47,CRJ200.700,DC9,DHC4,ERJ135.190,F27

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