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Beverage Carts

Thu Nov 07, 2013 2:58 am

So I am hoping that some one can answer my question. I recently was on E bay looking at the beverage cart/trolley that were being sold there. How does one even get one to sell?? I noticed all the NW carts are gone or DL put their name in the spot where it once said NW on it. Also when an airline closes down is there some sort of asset liquidation if I am not mistaken? If so is that a place to pick up these carts and the drawers that go inside of them? Hopefully this is not a stupid question.
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RE: Beverage Carts

Thu Nov 07, 2013 3:27 am

Why would anyone want one. They are beat up, nasty and food and drink stained. I always wash my hands after handling them.
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RE: Beverage Carts

Thu Nov 07, 2013 3:46 am

IIRC all the airlines do is change the name plate. They get so beat up after so many years of use they get set out for repairs. The company that repairs the carts may take the carts and use parts to repair others, much like a auto junk yard.
Every cart must meet FAA regs as do the companies who repair them, much like the MX companies who repair the planes.
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RE: Beverage Carts

Thu Nov 07, 2013 3:52 am

"Every cart must meet FAA regs as do the companies who repair them, much like the MX companies who repair the planes"

Next episode of Mayday.

It started off as a normal flight. Little did the passengers know that lurking under that drink cart was a wobbly caster wheel, that would lead to......disaster.
 
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RE: Beverage Carts

Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:58 am

Airlines have been replacing old carts (aside from being used to death) with all new 'fleets' of lighter carts, taking every opportunity to reduce weight. The ones on eBay could be some of the heavy old clunkers.
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RE: Beverage Carts

Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:09 am

I recently bought one off a KLM pilot. He said had bought several in a KLM catering auction where they sold off their old equipment. It makes for quite nice decoration as its KLM blue  

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RE: Beverage Carts

Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:24 am

I can't imagine airlines selling off old beverage carts but RB once sold its old silverware. My dad bought some. I sometimes still stumble upon the occasional RB fork and knife in my cutlery drawer!

Quoting sunking737 (Reply 2):

IIRC all the airlines do is change the name plate. They get so beat up after so many years of use they get set out for repairs. The company that repairs the carts may take the carts and use parts to repair others, much like a auto junk yard.
Every cart must meet FAA regs as do the companies who repair them, much like the MX companies who repair the planes.

So they might have just pasted their name plane on a random drink cart?
Won't the carts and interiors be unique to the airline? I would have thought the gallies of the various airlines out there would be unique and the carts made-to-measure

To the thread starter.. did the interest in beverage carts stem from some sort of role play idea? 
 
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RE: Beverage Carts

Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:50 am

Quoting infinit (Reply 6):
Won't the carts and interiors be unique to the airline? I would have thought the gallies of the various airlines out there would be unique and the carts made-to-measure

Certainly not nowadays. The galleys and carts are straight out of the catalogue. If every galley was custom they'd cost too much to certify in the ac and be a nightmare to fit.
 
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RE: Beverage Carts

Thu Nov 07, 2013 4:55 pm

DL periodically sells old catering equipment (bev carts, silverware, dishes, etc...) at their museum in the Atlanta headquarters. Check out the museum website for more information.
 
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RE: Beverage Carts

Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:00 pm

Quoting Philby (Reply 7):
Certainly not nowadays. The galleys and carts are straight out of the catalogue. If every galley was custom they'd cost too much to certify in the ac and be a nightmare to fit.

Except, of course, the galleys on WN 737-3,-5,-7's.
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RE: Beverage Carts

Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:17 pm

Flying HEL-MAN the day before yesterday on a Finnair E-90 I was asking myself some of these questions as I queued for the loo! In that small galley I spotted 3 differently styled Finnair name-badges (from different eras?) on the carts - suggesting perhaps that the carts do indeed have a long life? I had speculated long ago that economic considerations would probably dictate that the carts would be of standardised size. These carts had A5 sized (approx.) paper notes slapped to their fronts. Using black marker and hand-written they simply said "E90 & E70", and as these notes were clean and fresh, they'd obviously not had many journeys). This was clearly a designation for their use on the Embraers only, as opposed to the A319/20 or 330/40, but presumably this was not a permanent designation given the use of paper. I'm speculating that the label indicated the catering content as suitable for the routes the Embraers were flying? Is there a more likely explanation?

An earlier post touched on the maintenance of the carts. A little touch I noticed on each cart in the galley, no matter which "era" the cart seemingly came from, the red and green pedals were all bright and shiny - not a worn off pedal in sight!

P.S. 2 Finnair flights in the same day, an A320 earlier - and not a single hot beverage served on either flight, business or peasant class. Both flights announced that the problem was down to irregularities in the delivery of the supplies. Both flights originated hours apart - how does an airline manage to sustain a cock-up for so long??
 
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RE: Beverage Carts

Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:31 pm

Quoting Philby (Reply 7):
Certainly not nowadays. The galleys and carts are straight out of the catalogue. If every galley was custom they'd cost too much to certify in the ac and be a nightmare to fit.

That is not actually correct. Very many airlines order their carts and galleys slightly different from everybody else. Nothing major, just minor changes to dimensions to ensure they will only fit the galleys of the owner. All done to reduce poaching.
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RE: Beverage Carts

Thu Nov 07, 2013 6:11 pm

Quoting ricknroll (Reply 3):
Next episode of Mayday.

It started off as a normal flight. Little did the passengers know that lurking under that drink cart was a wobbly caster wheel, that would lead to......disaster.

Before any of that, the narrator would kindly let the viewer know that whatever airport the plane flies out of is "one of the busiest airports in the world".
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RE: Beverage Carts

Thu Nov 07, 2013 6:37 pm

They are regulary available on German Aviation Shop Websites ex Air Berlin, so surely one can find them in the US somewhere aswell? Same as Seats, local Websites here are full of old Lufty seats before they went for the current Slim lines.
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RE: Beverage Carts

Thu Nov 07, 2013 6:41 pm

All galley carts/canisters are standardized (I believe it's called ATLAS standard). This way, all galley carts/canisters can be interchanged between any plane. It is not uncommon to find different airline's equipment on other planes for this reason.
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