chris28_17
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Once Again, Pic Advice.....

Tue Aug 15, 2000 3:08 pm

Hey HEy!!

Heres another picture that got booted, its a pretty sharp original picture, maybe i can improve the scanned product.. any quality advice?? take a look...

http://www.geocities.com/crazy_chris18/AirChris/Aloha737_1.jpg

Thanks, keep this post going, when i get a chance to visit my school im gonna scan some more and, probably they will end up here  

CHRIS !!
 
Granite
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RE: Once Again, Pic Advice.....

Tue Aug 15, 2000 4:20 pm

Hi Chris

It's a nice shot!

The only problem might be a little dark. Try and lighten slightly.

Apart from that, it's good.

Regards
Gary Watt
Aberdeen, Scotland
 
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RE: Once Again, Pic Advice.....

Tue Aug 15, 2000 11:14 pm

Chris,

Contradictory as it may seem, reflection might be the bad boy in this case. I've noticed A.N not to be too keen on reflections, even if they seem to be artistically just.
Of course I'm not talking about the reflection of the aircraft in the small pool of water - that's neat. Rather so, I'd say the guilty one is probably the reflection of/on the aircraft itself. Maybe "flare" would be a better way to put it.

Don't get me wrong though; I like the photo quite a bit. I'm merely trying to make sense of why it got rejected.

Best regards,

TriStar.
 
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RE: Once Again, Pic Advice.....

Wed Aug 16, 2000 12:08 am

I see two potential reasons:

1. The body of the aircraft is REALLY washed out...my first reaction is to 'squint' when I look at it.

2. There is a little too much black pavement in this pic...were you shooting the ground or the airplane?  

Seriously though, nice pic. Keep in mind that these are minor comments and may or may not be the reason the photo was rejected. Was it rejected for scan quality or aesthetics?

-Scott
San Diego, CA
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RE: Once Again, Pic Advice.....

Thu Aug 17, 2000 1:10 am

Okay, so the pic is too dark, i need to lighten it, but the plane is too light i need to darken it..  

Haha... guess that pic is sckrewed, too bad i liked that picture  

Ahh.. oh well.. anything else??

CHRIS
 
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RE: Once Again, Pic Advice.....

Thu Aug 17, 2000 1:43 am

Yes both too dark and too light - or put another way, too much contrast. Without seeing the original, I can't tell whether the fault lies in the original exposure or with subsequent processing ... but, all is not lost! You can manage the extremes between light and dark either (preferably) during the scan or post-scan in a package like Photo Paint or Photoshop.

I've taken the liberty of copying your pic and using the "curves" feature of Corel Photopaint to modify the extreme ends of your pic - ie. I "lowered" the curve at the highlight end and "raised" the curve at the shadow end and so reducing the contrast. This is a technique worth learning.

See: http://www.soton.ac.uk/~ckw/Aloha737_1.jpg
for the result. OK, the overall quality is poor (never a good idea to re-process .jpg files) but I think you'll get the idea.

Cheers,

Colin
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Another Pic...

Thu Aug 17, 2000 4:28 pm

First of all, thanks to colin for that last post, it really does help seeing someone else take your own pic (one your more familiar with) and use it as an example.. i think it helped, as soon as i get a chance to go to my school i will mess around w/ that one...

Anyway, here is another rejected one, the reason was of course poor quality, but i think maybe its just an "un-interesting" picture... to me it was cool because it has some sentimental value to it, however i can see how it might not be real exciting.. im pretty sure the quality is fine, its just the artistic value might (to most people) be lacking... here it is, take a look!!

http://www.geocities.com/crazy_chris18/AirChris/N37078.jpg

thanks again!!


CHRIS !
 
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RE: Another Pic...

Thu Aug 17, 2000 5:46 pm

I rather like that one - a bit different from most, and lots of reflected light showing up u/c details. The only criticism I would have with this one is that there is a distinct magenta cast to the image - this can be rectified by altering the colour balance by shifting the midtones to green (a little!). Also about .5 degree of clockwise rotation would straighten up those vertical pillars.

Cheers,

Colin
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RE: Another Pic...

Thu Aug 17, 2000 7:16 pm

Hi

I like that shot also.

The reason for not being uploaded might be the tail being cut off in the shot.

Apart from that, colours, sharpness and brightness look fine to me.

Regards
Gary Watt
Aberdeen, Scotland

 
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RE: Once Again, Pic Advice.....

Fri Aug 18, 2000 12:04 am

Hmmm...I kinda like it. The angle and environment are unique, and the scan quality is good. The only thing that bugs me was that the tail was cut off...this would have been a GREAT pic if we could see the whole thing.

Anyway, nice work!!!

-Scott
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AnOtHeR PiC !

Fri Aug 18, 2000 1:21 am

Yeah i thought about the thing with the tail, including when i took the pic, but at the time i was standing at the top of stairs about 25ft up and really was as close to the plane as it looks   in order to get the tail in the picture, in my judgement at the time, would have put the entire plane at a poor angle and been even worse... but yeah, i know what you all mean; but eventually i will also try to get rid of the red haze, i didnt notice it till you mentioned it ...

Well heres yet another few pics that i have NOT tried to upload yet... should I?  
thanks again!!

http://www.geocities.com/crazy_chris18/AirChris/DC9hawaiian1.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/crazy_chris18/AirChris/twa767_1.jpg

(a bit crooked... )
http://www.geocities.com/crazy_chris18/AirChris/evergreen1.jpg

more to come im sure  

CHRIS !
 
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Possible Improvements..

Mon Aug 21, 2000 4:49 am

Well this topic seems to have lost popularity... anyway im bringing it back up... here are a few of those pics you gave suggestions on.. ive tried to fix them..

Please give me some input!!!!!!

original:
http://www.geocities.com/crazy_chris18/AirChris/Aloha737_1.jpg

fixed.. maybe:
http://www.geocities.com/crazy_chris18/AirChris/Aloha737_1_2.jpg


another one... orig. is first.. then fixed..
http://www.geocities.com/crazy_chris18/AirChris/N37078.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/crazy_chris18/AirChris/n37078_2.jpg


lemme know what you think.. all comments are good comments!!!  

CHRIS !

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