Lai
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How To Take The Perfect Slide?

Sun Dec 17, 2000 6:47 pm

Hi all

I’ve been taking colour prints since the eighties but for quite some time now I’ve been seriously considering doing slides instead. But this has left me with a few questions:

I understand it can be difficult to make a superb slide-shot. What are the ideal camera settings on a sunny/sky clear day? Is it best to leave the camera on auto setting or should manually be preferred? I use a Nikon F70.

Shots taken on 50mm should produce the ideal result. Should a 50mm tele-lens be used, or does a 35mm-80mm zoom lens set around 50mm work as well?

Kind regards

Nicolai Musante
 
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RE: How To Take The Perfect Slide?

Sun Dec 17, 2000 7:04 pm

Nicolai,

See my post in the topic "The Perfect Shot?" started by AirNikon.

Michael
 
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RE: How To Take The Perfect Slide?

Sun Dec 17, 2000 7:17 pm

Hi Michael

Thanks for your respond. I already saw it before posting my own question but I need info on camera settings and lenses.

Thanks

Rgds

Nicolai Musante
 
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RE: How To Take The Perfect Slide?

Sun Dec 17, 2000 7:30 pm

There is no difference in the way you take your pics. The settings should be the same.

The only caveat is that with prints, there is a certain margin for error that the developer corrects, usually without you knowing it. Slides forgive nothing.

Charles
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RE: How To Take The Perfect Slide?

Mon Dec 18, 2000 5:55 am

Nicolai,

The best way to handle this would be purchasing a roll of slide film and going out with your camera and shooting. With my gear, while ramp shooting I usually set a -0.3 comp. since I find the slides to be slightly overexposed if I don't. It's probably fine at full program mode but I prefer the look of the -0.3. So, my suggestion would be try the F70 at full program, look at the slides when they return and you decide. This is of course talking about shooting in full sun with a 50mm lens (or 28-70, set around 50mm). With different lighting conditions and/or weather, thats where years of experience would help you determine what settings are needed.

So, get that first roll and give it a shot. Yes, its different than print film but it's not as hard as you might think. It might be disappointing at first (you should see some of my first batches of slides) but don't give-up.

Michael
 
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RE: How To Take The Perfect Slide?

Wed Dec 20, 2000 12:33 am

If you use Nikon and Kodachrome you will need to do what Mike says: shoot at -.3 exposure compensation. Also, use the center-weighted meter, as the matrix meter tends to mess up the exposure of the aircraft (your main subject).

If you are shooting static aircraft with K64 on a perfect day with the sun over your shoulder you could also set your camera on 1/125 f16 (I think) and shoot away.

Sunil
 
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RE: How To Take The Perfect Slide?

Wed Dec 20, 2000 1:07 am

The main thing to watch with slides is that they are very intolerant to overexposure compared to print film. Conversly, slide film will hold shadow detail better than print film. Underexposing slightly (about a 3rd of a stop) usually results in good colour saturation, good skies and still retains shadow detail.

With regard to lenses - in general, a fixed prime lens will normally be better than a zoom, particularly round the edges, but if you are using quality Nikkor lenses, this is likely to only be detectable on the test bench, and the flexibility of the zoom will allow you to compose better pictures. But avoid budget 3rd party lenses.

Cheers

Colin
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Lai
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RE: How To Take The Perfect Slide?

Wed Dec 20, 2000 1:18 am

Hi all...

Thanks to all who took the time and responded to my question. It realy helped me.

All the best

Nicolai Musante
 
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RE: How To Take The Perfect Slide?

Wed Dec 20, 2000 8:59 am

Hi

Mike, I'd love to see one of your "first" shots.
Here's one of mine :
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Click here for full size photo!

Photo © Rob Rindt

I was 2 months shy of my 15th B-day.

7000+ slides later  
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Photo © Rob Rindt



Regards,
Rob

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RE: How To Take The Perfect Slide?

Wed Dec 20, 2000 9:14 am

Rob,

No you don't. I was going thru my "junk" box of slides the other night and my wife says.. "What trade partner did you get those from..they're horrible - sent them back" Well, I told her they were my "classics" and she just laughed.. Goes to show you, practice does make perfect (well, not perfect but getting there..)

Michael
 
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RE: How To Take The Perfect Slide?

Wed Dec 20, 2000 10:03 pm

How did you get your wife to look at a slide?... mine thinks I'm just plane (pardon the pun) nuts  

Sunil
 
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RE: How To Take The Perfect Slide?

Wed Dec 20, 2000 10:15 pm

Sunilgupta,

LOL! Boy, that sounds familiar. I wonder why.  

Charles
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RE: How To Take The Perfect Slide?

Wed Dec 20, 2000 11:35 pm

Like every wife, she enjoys the checks that come in the mail from time-to-time when I sell or license a pic for usage.  

Acutally, she's pretty good with the hobby. In Oct., we had several guys from California, Canada and the local NY/NJ boys over for a slide show and she stayed to view most of slides.

Michael

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