mikephotos
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Nikon Introduces New Film Scanners

Thu Jan 11, 2001 6:18 am

My current scanner (Photosmart-SCSI version) has had it and it's time to upgrade. I have been looking into new slide (film) scanners for under $1000. I was pretty much set on the Canoscan PS2710 ($479) since the Nikon Coolscan III (LS-30) has been reported to scan Kodachrome poorly. Now, looks like Nikon has come out with some new scanners which puts my buying on hold. I think the new Coolscan IV ED is something to consider, at a list price of approx. $895.

To see previews of the new scanners:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0101/01010901nikonscanners.asp

What do you think?

Michael
 
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RE: Nikon Introduces New Film Scanners

Thu Jan 11, 2001 8:18 am

Actully the 4000 ED looks rather impressive I have been looking at the Poloroid 4000.

Excuse my ignorance but I am curious if the IEEE 1394 interface they refer to is firewire ? or SCSI ? I have been hoping that someone would manfacture a film scanner with a 'firewire' interface as I really have no desire to attach a SCSI card to my new MAC (when I get it).

Thomas
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RE: Nikon Introduces New Film Scanners

Thu Jan 11, 2001 9:31 am

IEEE 1394 is indeed firewire. I'm surprised to see that support for SCSI has been dropped on all new models.

PS: The scanners come complete with a PCI firewire card for users who don't have firewire yet.

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RE: Nikon Introduces New Film Scanners

Thu Jan 11, 2001 9:56 am

Great! Looks like this one will win out over the Poloroid, for my $1600.00

Thomas
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RE: Nikon Introduces New Film Scanners

Thu Jan 11, 2001 11:56 am

Mike,

Go for the Minolta Dimage Scan Elete F-2900.

It's a SCSI, and it does a good job on KR. I've scanned a couple old rolls and it seemed to do a good job.

Later,

Chris
 
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RE: Nikon Introduces New Film Scanners

Thu Jan 11, 2001 12:02 pm

My almost two-year relationship with a Nikon scanner (LS-20) ended in divorce. Here's what I will buy next, yeah it's a Kodak, so what...

http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/products/scanners/rfs3600/3600Main.shtml

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RE: Nikon Introduces New Film Scanners

Thu Jan 11, 2001 12:13 pm

After I pickup another F5 for my backup, I plan to seriously look into the new scanner. Hopefully by that time the new Nikons will be out and I can give them a test run.

Chris-I considered the Minolta Dimage Scan Elite and still have it on my list. So many to choose from....

Michael
 
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RE: Nikon Introduces New Film Scanners

Thu Jan 11, 2001 1:19 pm

Oh come-on Michael, I found the Kodak as low as $1099 on the net. If you can afford a "back-up" F5, you can afford one of these...
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RE: Nikon Introduces New Film Scanners

Thu Jan 11, 2001 1:48 pm

Yeah, I can afford a $1,100 scanner but it's not worth it for me right now. I mainly do scans only for a.net, my website and printing family pics. All my publishing work is done with original chromes. Maybe if I start doing more stock work I'll pickup the new Super Coolscan 8000, but for now the new Coolscan IV ED would be perfect. The stock guys I do work with have a fleet of LS-2000 and love them.

Michael
 
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RE: Nikon Introduces New Film Scanners

Thu Jan 11, 2001 2:49 pm

Sweeet.
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RE: Nikon Introduces New Film Scanners

Thu Jan 11, 2001 5:59 pm

Mikephoto suggests that the LS30 does a poor job on Kodachrome - not the case in my experience - it handles Kodachrome as well as any other emulsion I've tried. What doesn't work is the infrared based ICE dust/scratch removal - this is due to the way Kodachome fims are constructed, and any IR based dust removal system would have the same problems. On the LS30 ICE can be switched off - many people prefer not to use this anyway, though I find it very useful.

Cheers,

Colin
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RE: Nikon ICE On Kodachrome

Thu Jan 11, 2001 7:05 pm

I've heard of the problems, but never actually heard what sort of problem. What happens? How do the scans look when you use ICE on a Kodachrome?
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RE: Nikon ICE On Kodachrome

Thu Jan 11, 2001 11:19 pm

ICE scans on Kodachrome look fine - the dust simply isn't removed - for some reason the IR scan can't differentiate between dust/scratch and Kodachrome emulsion, so has no effect. Using ICE has no visual effect on Kodachrome, but since an ICE scan takes a little longer than a normal scan, I usually turn it off.

Just been studying the specs for the new Nikon scanners. I just have to have that new 4000!

Cheers,

Colin
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RE: Nikon ICE On Kodachrome

Fri Jan 12, 2001 12:06 am

Thanks for the explanation Colin!
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RE: Nikon Introduces New Film Scanners

Fri Jan 12, 2001 12:18 am

Mike,

I recently retired my Photosmart as well, in favor of the Minolta Scan Dual... Needless to say, I am VERY impressed with this scanner, especially for the money. I was originally going to get a Polaroid Sprintscan 35, but I couldn't justify spending the extra $$$ for it.

There are of course much better scanners out there for under $1k, but I don't know how much money you want to spend.

If you can afford it, go with the Nikon (the supplied software is awesome), if not, go with the Minolta... Then you will have an extra $400 to put towards that backup body.  

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RE: Nikon Introduces New Film Scanners

Fri Jan 12, 2001 2:28 am

Colin,

I have no acutal proof that the LS-30 poorly scans Kodachome, but heard from 2 different people on a.net that it does. I was aware of the ICE problem, which didn't really bother me. However, from looking at your photos on a.net, looks like K64 turns out fine. If it weren't for the new scanners, I'd reconsider the LS-30.

Aric--thanks, I'll look into the Minolta as well.

Michael
 
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RE: Nikon Introduces New Film Scanners

Fri Jan 12, 2001 6:22 pm

Actually, few of my pics on A.net are K64 - I prefer Fuji for air stuff, but I do use it a lot for people and nature. If you hang on for a few months you may be able to get an LS-30 real cheap as there's bound to be some serious discounting and a flood of 2nd hand models!

Cheers,

Colin
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RE: Nikon Introduces New Film Scanners

Tue Jan 16, 2001 10:13 pm

hi everybody
I use the LS-30 and haven't really had any problems with colors or otherwise (especially together with Silverfast).
Also, I did use the scratch/dust-removal with Kodachrome and didn't experience any problems either (but in this case you can't use the Silverfast-software). I noticed that the colors weren't all that brilliant when I used the Nikon-software delivered with the scanner.
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RE: Nikon Introduces New Film Scanners

Tue Jan 16, 2001 10:16 pm

Olav, have you tried downloading the Nikonscan updates from their website? I found they improved matters considerably, with results comparable to Silverfast (though not with the same level of control/manipulation)

Cheers,

Colin
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RE: Nikon Introduces New Film Scanners

Tue Jan 16, 2001 11:41 pm

no, didn't download any Nikonscan updates so far, as I was quite pleased with my results from Silverfast. but I'll try.
thanx Colin

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