lewis
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EOS 30(ELAN 7E) Or Nikon F80?

Sat Mar 10, 2001 9:20 pm

I know that I have made a similar post but now i have collected the money i need and i am about to buy the Canon Model. Is there any reason why I should buy the F80 instead? I want to know before i make a mistake that I will regret for ever.
 
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RE: EOS 30(ELAN 7E) Or Nikon F80?

Sat Mar 10, 2001 9:58 pm

I don't know anything about the F80 but I have been using the EOS 30 on the side for a few months and the only complaint I have is the FPS speed. If you shoot ramp shots and need a roll burnt in a couple of seconds, it is too slow. Otherwise I am pleased with that little camera. Good AF, good exposure. Eye controll works fine. Excellent range of lenses in the Canon set up.
You won't regret going for an EOS.
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USAir_757
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RE: EOS 30(ELAN 7E) Or Nikon F80?

Sat Mar 10, 2001 11:18 pm

I would buy an F80. Canon may have more lenses than Nikon, but Nikon has more high quality lenses than does Canon. You have to be on the expensive side of consumer equipment with Canon to get a good lens, where as this is not true with Nikon

The AF on the N80(F80) is just as good as the canon if not a little better.

the FPS on the F80 is definitely better. It is the same as my dad's N-6006 Nikon which has a good FPS.

As a first long lens from Nikon I recommend the Nikkor 75-240. This is a CHEAP($149) lens, but it produces results like an expensive Canon lens would. It is mych better than Canon's 75-300.


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RE: EOS 30(ELAN 7E) Or Nikon F80?

Sun Mar 11, 2001 12:34 am

It seems that there are advocates for both. I have always used the Canon EOS autofocus system and it has worked extremely well. I used to use Konica manual focus cameras.

The frames per second of the new 7e is up to 4 per second. That is fast for a mid range camera.
The lenses are very good. I have used the 100-300 for years and it has always been excellent. It offers internal focusing and ultrasonic motors. I have also acquired a few of the professional level "L" lenses and I can tell you that they are wonderful.

The Canon offers eye control which I find to be a fabulous feature. You look at a point and it focuses on that point. A particular advantage when taking aviation action shots. Some people say that they don't understand eye control and don't like it, but many of them who say that haven't actually tried it. I use Elan IIE (50E) cameras and they have been fine. The new 7E should be even better.If you don't want to use the eye control feature for a particular situation, then you can turn it off.

One advantage the Canon system has is that the focus motors for the system are in the lenses and are therefore matched to each lens. Usually that means faster autofocus.

Having said all that, it really depends upon which system makes you more comfortable shooting. There are people, many of whom upload to this site, that swear by Nikon. I am sure that they are great cameras. But when it came time to purchase a new autofocus system, which I did about 4 years ago. 80% of the people I spoke with recommended Canon.I tried it and have never been sorry.

Either way, best of luck.

Allan Rossmore
 
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Kellmark

Sun Mar 11, 2001 1:33 am

I agree with you. I also find Canon cameras to be very good. I also own a canon EF 28-135mm USM IS lens from my old camera. I have heard that combined with the specific lens, the camera becomes even better! Thanks to all of you!
 
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RE: EOS 30(ELAN 7E) Or Nikon F80?

Sun Mar 11, 2001 9:55 am

Actually, USAir_757, if the 7E does have the 4 fps, it is faster than the N80, which is only at 2.5 fps (with the grip, probably around 2 without)

I currently own an N80 after looking at several other brands including Canon, Minolta and Pentax. After ruling out Minolta and Pentax, seeing that the majority of pro photogs out there only use Nikon and Canon, it came down to two models - the N80 and the Canon equivalent (I don't remember which one it was, but it was older technology, perhaps the predecessor to the 7E; I could be wrong, I don't pay much attention to Canon nowadays)

I love my N80 and it will eventually make a great backup when I go digital or get an F5. Autofocus is great, as is the exposure. The only real fault I have with the camera is the flash - Nikon really should have left this one out, but it does occasionaly come in handy in certain situations. The other thing is the lack of a grip with a vertical shutter, but it is only a 'consumer' rather than a 'pro' model.

I purchased it with the 75-300 f4.0-5.6 and the 28-80 f3.5-5.6. I'm itching to replace that small zoom with the 28-70 f2.8 right now and will eventually but the $$$ is too great on my pocket. Probably will purchase the 24-120 in the meantime. But don't let that fool you - the 28-80 is a pretty good lens, just not pro quality. The 75-300 is also fairly decent, no vignetting wide open, a real plus for a fairly cheap lens as well. Eventually, I'll get that 80-200 f2.8 and a 300 f2.8 to replace it, but once again $$$$. That's what is great about Nikon; quality lenses everywhere you look.

Hope this has helped you somewhat. And remember, it isn't going to be a decision that you will regret forever, what ever you decide, it is a stepping stone to greater things. Both the Nikon line and Canon line have great things, and both have their pluses and minuses. Either one is a good camera.

Saul
 
USAir_757
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RE: EOS 30(ELAN 7E) Or Nikon F80?

Sun Mar 11, 2001 11:11 am

Strange indeed because when I shot a canon elan 7e at the shop, the N80's FPS was faster...hmmmm...low battery?

Maybe I will give Canon another chance...



C. Wassell
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