AgostinhoMSS
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Digital Camera

Wed Apr 04, 2001 7:20 am

Hello everybody, this is my first post in this forum.
I have a Nikon F90X with Sigma 70-300DL Macro, Voigtlander 19-35 and Nikkor 50-1.8, and I´m thinking about a digital camera(35-90~) to keep always with me
I would like to see photos taken with digital cameras.
Please send your links.
I also colect 10cm X 15cm aviation photos. Can I get a good 10 X 15 print (or 15 X20) from digital cameras?
My English isn´t 100% but I think its understandable.
Thanks for your time, and good photos.

Agostinho Santos
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RE: Digital Camera

Wed Apr 04, 2001 8:15 am

Agostinho,
These are some shots I recently took with the Nikon 880. There are some better Digital Cams but for the money it was a pretty good deal. I got mine for $539 US.


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RE: Digital Camera

Wed Apr 04, 2001 9:07 am

Hi.

I got a Sony DSC-P1 (3.3 Mega Pix) a few weeks ago.
It is very small.
Must admit, haven't had much time to get
used to it yet. I snapped this Airbus on a dull day
at the local airport. I'm happy with it.


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More to come I hope.

Cheers

Gerry/EDI


 
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RE: Digital Camera

Wed Apr 04, 2001 12:07 pm

Hey,

I took this one with my Canon G1, 3.34 MP. It's about $900 US


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RE: Digital Camera

Wed Apr 04, 2001 1:17 pm

Hi!
All of mine are digital. I have a Nikon Coolpix 990 and the teleconverters.

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RE: Digital Camera

Wed Apr 04, 2001 11:36 pm

I have just switched to digital (Fuji Finepix S1 Pro.) I'm having A LOT of fun. Some samples:


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Adds a whole new dimension to the hobby.

Andrew
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RE: Digital Camera

Thu Apr 05, 2001 12:20 am

Andy,

Take it back their rubbish!!

So not only do you have excellant weather, excellant shooting positions and an excellant array of aircraft your now going to spoil us with even more great shots, its not fair move to the England where It rains every day!

My last S1 shot:
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How are you finding the S1?

Regards

Paul
 
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RE: Digital Camera

Thu Apr 05, 2001 6:50 am

Paul,

Strange, your shot has more hits than mine!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

I am having a ball playing around with the S1. I kept going into the local pro camera shot and staring at the body (should have been arrested for stalking the camera body) until one of the sales reps spotted me, grabbed the S1, put in some batteries and let me "play". I bought the darn thing in about 5 minutes!!!

Also want to say a big public thank you to you for giving me all that advice on the camera and taking the time to let me know your experiences. Although I may rescind that Thank You once I get my VisaCard Bill!

You are right, the 1:1.5 aspect does take some getting used to, especially if like me you are shooting still SLR. But once you do get used to it, bang, let the fun begin.

I like it because I can burn shots of anything without worrying, if it is no good, then just delete and shoot again. I"m now shooting angles and positions I never would have bothered with in the past. Example:


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The only little problem I have noticed is that the CCD is very senstive to dust and little minute particles. You have to constantly clean the CCD with a blast from compressed air. One shoot I had a big black dot in the left hand side of each and every shot, which had to be airbrshed out of the final scan.

How are you finding it?

Andrew
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AgostinhoMSS
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RE: Digital Camera

Thu Apr 05, 2001 7:42 am

Hi,

thanks for all the wonderfull digital photos.
One of the things I like about digital, is that you don´t have to worry about dust in the negatives and slides.

The other question I post yestarday, was about prints.
Did you ever print one of this photos (postcard size) ?
Does it look like a normal print from SLR´s ?
Once again thank you.

Agostinho Santos
 
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RE: Digital Camera

Thu Apr 05, 2001 8:33 am

I'm REALLY picky about digital imaging, so it takes alot to impress me. So, as an experiment, I took some images from my 3mp camera and uploded them to ezprints.com.

Those prints I got back looked (and felt) like real, honest to god 35mm prints. I was really impressed. However, go any bigger than that with your 3mp camera, and I've heard that you can start to tell that it's a digital print. I haven't tried this though.

If my little pro-sumer 3mp digcam makes me happy, I'll bet my head would explode after 10 minutes of playing with a D1x...  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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RE: Digital Camera

Thu Apr 05, 2001 9:12 pm

i recently purchased a D1, and here are the first three A-net shots i got with it.


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I have printed these out to 8x10, and you cannot thell the differnece between them and traditional film prints!

Hope this helps.

Joe Brown

 
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RE: Digital Camera

Sat Apr 07, 2001 8:35 pm

Andy,

Im glad I was of help to you and yes I know exactly how you feel with the credit card bill!!

Your right about the CCD liking dust and crap, so far thats the only negative thing I have to say about the camera. Your also right about not having to worry about how many shots you take and that if you dont like one you can just delete it, I dont think I have ever taken so many shots in one vist to an airport as I do now.

I cant wait to see what you come up with next.

Regards

Paul
 
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RE: Digital Camera

Sun Apr 08, 2001 1:56 am

Hi!
I did some prints on the size of 25 * 37 cm and they came out very well from the lab. I coulnd't tell the difference to analog prints, and nobody else could until now.
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RE: Digital Camera

Sun Apr 08, 2001 7:50 am

I just picked up a Fuji S1 have played around with it a bit and the results are beyond excellent, except for a small problem at 1600ISO in low light conditions.

Apart from that, no problems. I know somebody that printed a 16x20 inch print from it and it was as comparable to a print from an analog 6x7 cm Negative.

Obviously this was at it's best resolution.

cheers

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RE: Digital Camera

Sun Apr 08, 2001 9:29 am

$4000???...are there any digital cameras maybe 1 grand or less that have image quality like the S1? I must say, I am very impressed with the pics here!

Zach
 
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RE: Digital Camera

Sun Apr 08, 2001 9:51 am

You can buy the S1 for USD 2800.00 at B&H.

http://www02.bhphotovideo.com/default.sph/FrameWork.class?FNC=ProductActivator__Aproductlist_html___220434___FUFPS1K___REG___CatID=1082___SID=E5F1FABBC20

Vasco

If I had a little too much of it, I would buy the S1, a 1.4 teleconverter and the Sigma 500 f4.5

 
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RE: Digital Camera

Sun Apr 08, 2001 9:57 am

Thanks Vasco, I also just found it on ebay for $1500.

Does anyone know how the S1 compares to the D1?

Thanks,
Zach
 
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RE: Digital Camera

Sun Apr 08, 2001 10:49 am

Glenn,

You mean you joined the club and got an S1? Well done, fantastic pieice of machinery, isn't it?

Vasco: You wouldn't need the 1.4X converter as the conversion to digital would give you a 1:1.5 aspect ratio, and leave you looking at 750mm!

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RE: Digital Camera

Sun Apr 08, 2001 11:09 am

Andrew,

I know but I want to go further than the 750mm, after
I kind of missed that moon shot (500mm are still not good enough, 1000mm would have given me a more satisfying result.

We'll see what the future brings.

Vasco
 
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RE: Digital Camera

Mon Apr 09, 2001 1:57 am

Hello All - Great thread!

As far as the D1 vs S1 part of this discussion goes, I can only say, go to your local camera store and try them both out.

The D1, is a heavy pro camera based on the Nikon F5 body. It has every setting and adjustment and a wide range of ISO settings. It also has it's share of problems - dark channel noise at higher ISO's etc... but this can be worked around.

The S1, is based on the Nikon 6006, which, is not being made anymore. I therefore question how long the support from Nikon to Fuji will be. Will parts be available in the future? I cannot answer that.

I do feel, IMHO, that the S1 is a decent camera for the money, and is worthy of consideration, but I do question it as a "pro" camera.

I have handled both camera's and in the end I went with the D1, because I previously had a lot of Nikon equipment, and felt it was the best choice for me.

And ultimately, no matter how much information you have, the choice will be yours and no one elses.

Joe Brown
 
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RE: Digital Camera

Mon Apr 09, 2001 2:43 am

The D1 is in another league as the Fuji S1. They are aimed at different markets and that's clear from the features.

I own a D1 because I need it's speed, features and build quality. But purely based on image quality, I would prefer the Fuji S1. Unforntunately, it's build around a Nikon F60 which is too slow and doesn't support AF-S lenses.

I think the Fuji S1 compares well with the Canon D30 although the latter has a little more features. If you don't need superior build quality, high speed operation and AF-S support, go the for Fuji S1.

Grtz,
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RE: Digital Camera

Mon Apr 09, 2001 6:06 am

Guys

All my shots bar around 30 are Digital Taken on Airliners.net.

Digital Is Great. 2 Types of Digital Camera around just now. Those under a grand and those above a grand in price.

I think I have a great set-up.

I use the Sony DSC-S70 3.3mp Digital Camera. I also have the Olympus B-300 1X7 Teleconvertor and the camera fills all my needs. Been to LAX, Vegas etc etc and the lens size fine.The picture quality is Superb full screen.

Anyway, Digital is cheap in the longrun if you find the combination that works well for you.

Do you think the quality match those professional 2 thousand + cameras then?


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RE: Digital Camera

Tue Apr 10, 2001 1:45 am

Following this up I have to agree with Joe, Marco and Colin!

The S1 is probably not a digital SLR that a true professional would choose. I would position it between the normal digital cameras and the top end professional cameras. For me its perfect I dont have ramp access like Colin does (I think) or can get close enough to the action unless its when im at Lasham. But if you can get cloes enough to the actiion then a normal digital cam will give you just as good shots.

So for me a normal digital camera wouldnt have been able to do it for me. The S1 gives me much more flexibility and with the 170-500 Sigma bolted on, gives some stunning take off shots from Gatwick when I stand in my tree!! Shot some yesterday which are in the queue, nice Delta MD-11 shots  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Regards

Paul
 
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RE: Digital Camera

Tue Apr 10, 2001 2:50 am

Having used both the D1 and the S1, I found that they both VERY good cameras. The D1 was a breeze for me to adapt to, since it is based on the Nikon F5 body. Everything about the camera impressed me, except one thing, image quality. I did not find the image quality as good as the S1, which somewhat surprised me. There seemed to be a lot of magenta casting in most photos, especially in white objects such as clouds. It also does a horrible job on portraits.

The S1 was a very pleasant surprise. Aside from its questionable build quality and being based on a pretty mediocre camera body such as the N60, the results I got were fantastic. The photos were as good if not better than most Provia and Velvia scans I have seen. I was not impressed with the AF speed, but I still had no trouble getting action shots with it. I have very few gripes for this camera, maybe the low price has something to do with it.  Smile

Overall, I do not see a reason to (unless you are really rough on your equipment) to choose a D1 over an S1... You get better image quality at a lower price, seems like an obvious choice to me. However, things may change once the D1X hits the market, but even then, at $5000, can this camera really be considered a bargain?

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RE: Digital Camera

Tue Apr 10, 2001 7:22 am

I had a look at both and found the D1 and S1 to be both excellent machines. I went for the S1 because:

1) Cost
2) Cost!
3) Cost!!

The image quality on both were excellent. As Paul has mentioned, it is perfect for an enthusiast / semi pro who does not have ramp access. Get's you close to the action. For example:


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