gerardo
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Help Needed Once Again

Sat Apr 21, 2001 7:53 pm

About a month ago, the following pic was rejected:
http://www.diax.ch/users/dominguez/a332_ul_an01.jpg

Then I re-scanned it and tried different settings, the result was:
http://www.diax.ch/users/dominguez/a332_ul_an02.jpg

But this pic got rejected once again.

Now I definitely need help, how to improve that pic. Or is it obvious a bad picture, which can't be uploaded, no matter what I try?

Regards
Gerardo
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lewis
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RE: Help Needed Once Again

Sat Apr 21, 2001 8:29 pm

There is too much contrast. Do you sharpen or do you apply Unsharp mask? If you do the 2nd, try not to overdo it as there will be loss of detail.
 
gerardo
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RE: Help Needed Once Again

Sat Apr 21, 2001 9:44 pm

This time I only used unsharp mask, but even less then adviced. I also reduced contrast on the second picture. So, you see, I am getting kinda desperate...

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Gerardo
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mirage
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RE: Help Needed Once Again

Sat Apr 21, 2001 10:14 pm

It seems to me that the photo is not very sharp, maybe you used a low shutter speed because it's possible to see some movement on the static objects in the runway and on the background.

Luis
 
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RE: Help Needed Once Again

Sat Apr 21, 2001 10:19 pm

Tru not to use unsharp mask at all. Just use sharpen and maybe try NORMALIZE if it is possible with your software
 
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RE: Help Needed Once Again

Sat Apr 21, 2001 11:27 pm

Hmm..

I wouldn't suggest NOT using unsharp mask. It's essential to get the best detail out of a scanned shot, Straight sharpen is far too coarse.

Looking at the crane in the background, there is a slight "glow" around the edge. That is a sign of too much unsharp mask filtering.
Reduce the amount or increase the threshold slightly. Keep the radius low.
Also, still too constrasty (my personal view).
Have you tried scanning and uploading an aircraft static or taxying?
Although the shot is excellent in it's own right, get confidence by
taking simpler shots. (The FAQ states this)

Cheers

Gerry
 
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RE: Help Needed Once Again

Sat Apr 21, 2001 11:29 pm

Gerardo,
Quick question, what film did you use ? Some films have very high contrast levels

Martin
 
gerardo
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RE: Help Needed Once Again

Sun Apr 22, 2001 5:08 am

The film I nused was a Fuji Reala. The lesn used was a Tamron 28-200. Aperture settings were (If I recall correctly) f 5.6 or 6.7 and aperture time 1/350.

For the unsharp mask in photoshop I used (more or less) 160%, radius 1.6 and threshold 10.

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Gerardo
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cfalk
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RE: Help Needed Once Again

Sun Apr 22, 2001 6:36 am

You are scanning the print, right? Your developer might have screwed up your prints - if you can, you should try scanning the negative. If you cannot scan the negative, take it to another developer and have it reprinted. Reala should give better results than this.

Charles
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RE: Help Needed Once Again

Sun Apr 22, 2001 6:50 am

HOw do you scan a neg? i tried it but it came out black.

EGKK
 
cfalk
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RE: Help Needed Once Again

Sun Apr 22, 2001 2:34 pm

Well, from your answer, you seem to be using a standard flatbed scanner, so scanning the negative is not an option. Try getting it reprinted at another shop, and tell the operator that you don't want any color balance or contrast adjustment at all. get a good, large print of that and you should be able to scan it.

Charles
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gerardo
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RE: Help Needed Once Again

Sun Apr 22, 2001 6:10 pm

Charles, you're right. I use a flatbed scanner (UMAX 1220S). The local photo shop will give me phone call, when he recieves a new Minolta ScanDual II, which I most certainly will buy  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Do you think, that another developper can make better prints with that neg?

Regards
Gerardo
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