jderden777
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How 'Bout O'Hare?

Thu May 31, 2001 3:06 am

hey...
jonathan birdwell and i are planning on spending the day at ORD on june 15 on our way to DFW (non-rev on AA) and i was wondering where the best places are to take pics at o'hare...we won't have a car but we will have about 7 hours to kill if we get on the flights we want...
our first flight will arrive at ORD at 10:46am or something from CLT on an ERJ-145...and our next flight (2347) leaves at around 5:30pm (777 to DFW)...i was also wondering if this flight was usually full or if there are plenty of open seats...so if anyone is going to be at ORD on june 15th, let me know...and it'd be great if someone had a car and could take us around somewhere..maybe to the same place where chris weldy took all those approach shots...

thanks,
jonathan d.
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RE: How 'Bout O'Hare?

Thu May 31, 2001 4:48 am

Jonathan,

O'Hare is great for photography if you stay inside the terminals, but shooting outside is another story... Here is a little experience I had at ORD back in March '99, while shooting along Irving Park Rd. :

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/480781/

Be careful!  Smile

Aric Thalman
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RE: How 'Bout O'Hare?

Thu May 31, 2001 5:05 am

Aric,

Did you get that double-digit IQ and a triple-digit income line from George carlin? Funny stuff...

Zach
 
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RE: How 'Bout O'Hare?

Thu May 31, 2001 5:09 am

Yikes!!! thanks for the heads up Aric! We'll most likely wind up staying inside the terminals anyway...But where's the best place to shoot inside? Is the int'l terminal any good or do you have to have a ticket?

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RE: How 'Bout O'Hare?

Thu May 31, 2001 5:40 am

Zach,

Great observation! George's take on the airline industry and airport security are hilarious, yet so true...  Smile

Well, I need to go PRE-BOARD the plane now, therefore get on before I get on! lol


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RE: How 'Bout O'Hare?

Thu May 31, 2001 5:55 am

Hi guys, About shooting in the Terminals i think the AA concourses have great opportunity for shots. A couple of people on here have shots that were taken from the terminal with the skyline in the rear. All i know about that is that only happens on a clear, clear day!

Another good spot is... Walk into terminal two. Walk past Air Canada Gates on right, and United Express on left, go straight for the MCdonalds, then take the hallway that goes left. Go to the very end and you will be facing runway 9R/27L. If you have a -300mm lens you will be fine for aircraft on the runway, and if you have an 80mm or 200mm you will be fine also, because a major taxiway is right there. That spots has great vantage spots for aircraft taxing by.

Well if you dont have a car and you want to get to a good spot. I recommend go to the bus shuttle center and take the O'hare Ramada bus. It will take you to the Ramada Hotel off of Higgins and Manheim road. From the Hotel, walk down the street North, which is where runway 22R is, and you should see planes flying by, only if they are using that runway. If not, don't waste your time. If they are, there is a small parking lot with a big Car Wash sign that people sit at, and with a 300mm lens your set for great approach shots.

As for the Chris Weldy shots....well.....thats another story of how he got there...

Umm for runway 27L, there is a great place as well. This place you definately need a car. It is off of Manheim road south, and the Place is Called the Star Lite Hotel. The parking lot of that place is a great Vantage spot.

Here are some of my shots from ORD at 22R off of Higgins Road.


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Photo © Aaron D. Mandolesi




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Photo © Aaron Mandolesi



As for the International terminal, don't waste your time. You need at ticket to get in there, i've tried many times. They will litteraly tell you to leave if you dont have an International Ticket.

As for Irving Park Road. Well i've never had a problem there but i guess it's just when you go and what kind of cops and RENT-A-COPS are out and about. I've seen others get hasstled, but not I. So I've just left when i've seen someone get questioned.

Well i hope I've helped. My parents live in Chicago and I go visit them all the time there. I go spotting at least 7-8 hours a day when i visit, so long as my parents are at work.

As for me, Im in Denver for College, and this place is another story for Spotting.

Thanks alot.

Aaron Mandolesi
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RE: How 'Bout O'Hare?

Thu May 31, 2001 8:06 am

As far as the 777 DFW-ORD flight, it's pretty tough to non-rev on. I failed the first two times I attempted, both on Wednesdays at DFW. The only time I was successful was on Thanksgiving Day last year. Good luck!

Have you thought about trying the DFW-MIA 777 flight?

Aaron,

How is Denver? By the tone of your post it doesn't sound favorable. I'm moving to Denver in two months...

Mark Abbott
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Y Bother?

Thu May 31, 2001 8:19 am

Sounds as if you're planning to arrive ORD during the beginning of high sun and leave during prime shooting light [1730]. That, coupled with shooting through the glass, sounds like a receipe for disaster.
 
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RE: How 'Bout O'Hare?

Thu May 31, 2001 8:51 am

Flight 2347 on June 15th is currently showing 137 open seats in coach. I couldn't access the first/business class cabins, but it looks good so far for a seat in coach. Good luck.
 
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RE: How 'Bout O'Hare?

Thu May 31, 2001 3:55 pm

Sounds as if you're planning to arrive ORD during the beginning of high sun and leave during prime shooting light [1730]. That, coupled with shooting through the glass, sounds like a receipe for disaster.

this is true!! arggh!!

sorry i didnt see this post sooner, its 2am in indiana and im a bit too under the weather to spend too much time on it; for those of you curious about spotting without a car in ORD, im your man... send me an email and i'll get back to you in the morning..

g'nite!


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RE: How 'Bout O'Hare?

Fri Jun 01, 2001 1:11 am

Ahhh... i am much better this morning..

okay let me expand on my last post; here is an example of a shot done at about 1:30pm... the light sucks, i dont know why i ever uploaded this but at least i can use it as an example...


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Photo © Chris weldy



this was done at 22R using the method Aaron explained:

"Well if you dont have a car and you want to get to a good spot. I recommend go to the bus shuttle center and take the O'hare Ramada bus. It will take you to the Ramada Hotel off of Higgins and Manheim road. From the Hotel, walk down the street North, which is where runway 22R is, and you should see planes flying by, only if they are using that runway. If not, don't waste your time. If they are, there is a small parking lot with a big Car Wash sign that people sit at, and with a 300mm lens your set for great approach shots."

MY spot is 27R, but thats another story, no one else seems to like that spot when i give them directions (which i suppose is fine with me)

i havent gone to ORD for spotting for quite a while now because they've been using 9L 9R 4R almost every day for about the last 6 weeks; who knows when the winds will change around.... your pretty much sckrewed if you try and shoot on those days..

Back to the "time of day" topic, if you can manage to stay till after 4pm, this will be what your pics will look like... notice the sun paints the entire side of the plane, as opposed to just the top and nose... these were taken around sept. of last year around 4pm, however then the sun set around 6pm, right now the sun is setting at about 7:30pm so, do the math, that means to get this sun angle you'd have to shoot at 5:30pm


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Photo © Chris weldy



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Back to the 22R issue, that spot will have a better sun angle in the morning than it will in the evening. Think about it, picture a runway at 220 degrees, in the northern hemisphere the sun goes east-west and is always slightly to the south; by late evening at 22R the sun will be either directly in front of, or on the north side of the approaching aircraft. (notice the spot of the AW plane i posted, spotting is done on the south side, however you CAN get to the other side but most people dont)

Now, inside the terminal. In my opinion the BEST inside the terminal place is the end of K. The windows have some black crap on them but they dont show up on the picture so dont worry.... This spot is cool becasue it puts the int'l terminal between you, and the skyline. Also alot of heavies will taxi so close in front of you, you'll never get a picture (but its cool anyway)... they taxi at all different directions... you will get some 'tunnel vision' because your situated between 2 jetbridges, but once you get used to it, no problem..

i made these small so it loads easy, here are some shots from K.




heres an older one from K, quality isnt real nice....


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Photo © Chris weldy



*sigh* i gotta go to work already, can you believe it? anyway, hope that helps...

OH, how could i forget, before i ever go to ORD i call ATIS. the number is 1-773-601-8921 that number is gold for me...


CHRIS


 
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RE: How 'Bout O'Hare?

Fri Jun 01, 2001 4:47 am

Hey Chris,
Around what time were those BA & SN shots taken? I'm not sure how this is going to work out...but I'll just have to wait and see...thanks for all the info

jonathan d.
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RE: How 'Bout O'Hare?

Fri Jun 01, 2001 2:25 pm

Hey those BA and SN pics were shot about 4 weeks ago around 5pm from the end of K...

i hear alot of people reccomend L for shooting, its really no better than K traffic-wise, but i prefer K for the background (skyline)


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RE: How 'Bout O'Hare?

Sat Jun 02, 2001 12:48 am

Chris,

Can you tell me what ATIS is?

Thanks,

Dave

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