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Shooting Planes That Soon Afterwards Crash

Tue Jun 05, 2001 6:31 am

How many of you have shot a plane that crashed soon after the photo was taken? What was it?

Last saturday night did some ramp shots of a transient Cessna 210 at my local airport, read in the newspaper this morning that it crashed into a mountain the next morning. My jaw dropped when I saw the N# and recognized the paint scheme of the photo on the front page. The aircraft was destroyed almost beyond recognition, and very sadly, no one on board (3) survived.
 
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RE: Shooting Planes That Soon Afterwards Crash

Tue Jun 05, 2001 7:55 am

One of my personal rules is that I do not put up or publish photos of planes that have crashed where there have been fatalities. I see it as a mark of respect for those who lost their lives. I'm not interested in ogling over planes that have gone down.

Just my thoughts.

Andrew
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RE: Shooting Planes That Soon Afterwards Crash

Tue Jun 05, 2001 9:46 am

Andy so how many pictures of those airplanes do you have?
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RE: Shooting Planes That Soon Afterwards Crash

Tue Jun 05, 2001 11:07 am

Lets say your you won't post a picture of a civilian airliner that crashed with fatalities, would you post a picture of a military plane that later was shot down with fatalities?
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RE: Shooting Planes That Soon Afterwards Crash

Tue Jun 05, 2001 1:06 pm

To answer the previous questions:

1) I have no idea of how many pictures I have, it's not important

2) Don't photograph military.
3) Wouldn't post or publish anything with fatalities

Regards

Andrew
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RE: Shooting Planes That Soon Afterwards Crash

Tue Jun 05, 2001 5:17 pm

I was at the Biggin Hill airshow last weekend and have pictures of all three incidents and shots of the aircraft on the ground together with pilot shots. I have already handed over to the relevant authorities the shots that are of use to them.

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RE: Shooting Planes That Soon Afterwards Crash

Tue Jun 05, 2001 5:30 pm

Sadly, if I applied Andy's rule, I'd probably have to give up my favourite subject, warbirds. I went through a bad spell a couple of years back when 3 or 4 aircraft crashed shortly after I'd photographed them - I was expecting pilots to have me banned from airshows.

Unfortunately, though, the chances are that if you photograph old aircraft, a high percentage are going to come to grief.

With regard to Andy's rule, mine is not photographing crashes, crash sites or wreckage.

Cheers,

Colin

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RE: Shooting Planes That Soon Afterwards Crash

Tue Jun 05, 2001 6:03 pm

Having been at a wedding over the weekend, I had managed to miss the Biggin Hill show - or for that matter any news ... considering my last post, imagine how I felt when on following up Andy's reference to a crash I discovered it was "my" Kingcobra ... and now Johan's put a news link to my images.

After my initial shock though, I think it is important that a record exists of this very special aircraft - while some will look at those pics out of a morbid curiosity, others (I hope the majority) will want to see the plane in it's former glory. I'm also sure that the pilot (and the pilot/crew of the Vampire) would want the aircraft to be remembered "in flight" - afterall, these guys sacrificed much time, money and ultimately their lives to keep them flying. They have my total respect, and my sympathy to the families of those who died.

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RE: Shooting Planes That Soon Afterwards Crash

Tue Jun 05, 2001 6:21 pm

Hi everyone,

On a slightly lighter note...and no fatalaties here that I'm aware of...I shot this last May...


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Photo © Dean Barnes



...and it later crashed at Vienna in July.

I also got shots of the USAF F14 that went down at the Willow Grove (PA) Sounds of Freedom Airshow last year...taken on the ground before the display...but they won't see the light of day.

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Dean
 
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RE: Shooting Planes That Soon Afterwards Crash

Tue Jun 05, 2001 6:47 pm

Andy's attitude is very honourable!
I have to admit I do have photos of crashed airplanes at a.net...
But what do you do if you already have photos here and the plane crashes later? Ask Johan to remove it?
Note that Johan usually puts a banner on the front page to link to photos of recently crashed aircraft, so it seems to be something that visitors are asking for.

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RE: Shooting Planes That Soon Afterwards Crash

Tue Jun 05, 2001 7:10 pm

I would imagine that there isn't much you can do if you already have photos posted after a plane goes down. My rule is only an "after the fact" rule. I'm not criticizing others, it's only a rule for me. People have differing opinions, and that's great!

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RE: Shooting Planes That Soon Afterwards Crash

Tue Jun 05, 2001 8:10 pm

Mors!

I don't see why people think it's so interesting looking at a shot of an aircraft which later crashed. It's just as looking at any plane, isn't it?

I have an image (even though it will probably be rejected) in the upload que of A.net of a Swedish SAAB JAS 39 "Gripen" in flames after crashing in central Stockholm. However there were no fatalities (the pilot managed to jump). Quite a miracle, a few meters in one direction and it would have been a tremendous catastrophe with lot of casualties...

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RE: Shooting Planes That Soon Afterwards Crash

Tue Jun 05, 2001 10:01 pm

Many with less interest and knowledge about aircraft might use such a photo as a source of info, they don't have an idea what the particular aircraft has looked like.
But for others, it might be the thrill of sensation.

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RE: Shooting Planes That Soon Afterwards Crash

Tue Jun 05, 2001 10:05 pm

Its very interesting to look at the pictures from the crash place and at the picture of airliners that went down.
I have around 120-130 aviation books in my home library, 80% of them are about airplane crashes.
This is very interesting subject and very serious.
As long as we will have airplanes, that long we will have airplane crashes.
Thats the nature.
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RE: Shooting Planes That Soon Afterwards Crash

Tue Jun 05, 2001 10:43 pm

I was in ATH one day and I saw an EKAV(ambulance) helicopter arriving and departing after a while. The same helicopter crashed that night near Sounio, Greece while carrying a patient from Patmos (an island). The weather was really bad and the helicopter was in the middle of a storm.It was pretty shocking.
 
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RE: Shooting Planes That Soon Afterwards Crash

Wed Jun 06, 2001 2:47 am

Here's one I shot back in 1996, no fatalities.

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