G-CIVP
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New Security Restrictions In UK RE Photo Equipment

Tue Sep 18, 2001 4:23 am

I read in "The Times" [UK] that all hand luggage, possibly including that containing photo equipment, lenses, camera bodies etc are now not allowed in the cabin and must now go in the aircraft hold. Needless to say, the thought of my camera equipment going into the hold where it may get damaged etc doesn't bode well.

Has anyone got any further information? Is this likely to be a permanent security feature?
 
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RE: New Security Restrictions In UK RE Photo Equipment

Tue Sep 18, 2001 4:28 am

haven't heard of that. Given that most aircraft holds are full without coats and handbags, it seems unrealistic and impossible to enforce.
Also, cameras are exempt from handbaggage regulations under the convention of Warsaw, as are for example medication (some medicines cannot be XRayed because they are damaged by the radiation, insulin comes to mind).
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RE: New Security Restrictions In UK RE Photo Equipment

Tue Sep 18, 2001 4:32 am

Mmm. If need be I'll dig out the page reference etc. From a posting from another source, apparently, it is being enforced. Any more info. anyone?
 
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RE: New Security Restrictions In UK RE Photo Equipment

Tue Sep 18, 2001 5:09 am

I've checked with some airlines here and fellow travelling photographers Jwenting.
There are restrictions on handluggage (ie: none)
No exception for camera equipment. (At this time)

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RE: New Security Restrictions In UK RE Photo Equipment

Tue Sep 18, 2001 6:34 am

I have not herd about any restrictions here in the states either. However, a good friend of mine did have some of his camera equipment damaged at DIA a couple days ago. One of the security people literally dumped his photo bag all over the inspection table. When he tried to protest, the security guy literally accused him of trying to hide something because he was getting upset! Good god, if they did that to me, there would be hell to pay!
 
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RE: New Security Restrictions In UK RE Photo Equipment

Tue Sep 18, 2001 7:50 am

As I understand it this depends on airline. Easyjet & Ryanair both allowing NO hand baggage in the aircraft cabin at present (I suspect this is more to do with reducing delays in security screening in the airport than anything else, as they both work on an extremely tight turnaround). Someone I know who has contacted BA says they told him the situation is as normal, apart from the new excluded items (which is basically anything sharp - knives, knitting needles, scissors, nail files, razor blades, etc.). If anyone else has any further info. I would certainly be interested to hear it (by airline/airport would be helpful) - I certainly don't believe there is a blanket ban. BAA, Manchester & Birmingham airports are all advising passengers to "keep hand luggage to a minimum" and "expect extra security screening" (plus BAA advises pax flying from STN that "some operators (ie Ryanair) are not allowing ANY hand baggage").
 
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RE: New Security Restrictions In UK RE Photo Equipment

Tue Sep 18, 2001 10:39 am

I would imagine that if you consider to down-size your camera you could get it into a back pack for a carry on. I use the Elph2, the smallest of all small's so I don't have a problem. It can in a pocket, in my hand, backpack, etc. With the Elph airline people know you can't do much harm, except greating gret shots! So, that's what it hink, then again I live in the US and you... LOL.
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RE: New Security Restrictions In UK RE Photo Equipment

Tue Sep 18, 2001 3:11 pm

AMS has placed no restrictions but are being more strict in enforcing limitations on size and number of items. Also, they have published an open request to passengers to please not put any metal items in their handluggage.
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RE: New Security Restrictions In UK RE Photo Equipment

Tue Sep 18, 2001 4:43 pm

I spoke with Ryanair at LGW yesterday and they confirmed they are not allowing any hand baggage in to the aircraft.

Guess who is flying Ryanair to Dublin on Thursday!

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RE: New Security Restrictions In UK RE Photo Equipment

Tue Sep 18, 2001 4:58 pm

Hi all

I am off to SIN in November flying KLM.

Looks like camera equipment and laptops will be allowed on board but will face a hand search. I am not sure if I will be able to board with my Lowepro Mini Trekker as it may look like being on the 'big' side.

It's easy for me to do, so I will probably, nearer the time, go out to the airport and pack up my Mini Trekker and visit the ticket desk/check in desk and ask their opinion on my hand luggage. If it's a no, I will have to make other plans like getting extra insurance to cover the camera and a 'safe' container for when it goes in the hold.

If all this action is needed to ensure safety for passengers, I am all for it.

Let's hope it puts and end to all those stupid passengers who demand that their 'pull-wheelie' mini suitcases' are taken as hand baggage. It takes only one of these things to fill up an overhead locker..........and they insist they cram it in on top of other peoples baggage.

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RE: New Security Restrictions In UK RE Photo Equipment

Tue Sep 18, 2001 5:06 pm

Lowepro designs their bags to conform to handbaggage sizerestrictions. Just make sure it does not bulge too much  Smile
I use a Nova5, which is a bit bigger than your trekker I believe. I'll get it onto Transavia next month. If you have old tickets showing that cameras are exempt, take those if the new one shows nothing at all  Smile/happy/getting dizzy It helped me sometimes when weights had been dropped.
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RE: New Security Restrictions In UK RE Photo Equipment

Tue Sep 18, 2001 5:34 pm

Jwenting

Thanks for the info.

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RE: New Security Restrictions In UK RE Photo Equipment

Tue Sep 18, 2001 10:57 pm

Flew to Hamburg yesterday (Monday 17th) EMA-BRU-HAM. There were no restrictions or problems with on carry-ons / hand baggage, and no problems with lap tops or cameras in particular, either at my original departure point at East Midlands (British Midland), or in Brussels (Lufthansa Cityline) where changing planes involves going through security.

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RE: New Security Restrictions In UK RE Photo Equipment

Tue Sep 18, 2001 11:11 pm

This from Easyjets website:
"
These Regulations apply to flights operated both by easyJet airline company limited and easyJet Switzerland S.A.


Each passenger is usually permitted one standard piece of hand baggage to a maximum weight of 5kgs, dimensions 45x35x20cm, and one piece of standard checked-in hold baggage to a maximum weight of 25kgs.

In addition, passengers may carry onboard a handbag, clutchbag, coats, umbrellas, duty-free goods, laptop computers, and small items of camera equipment.

Normal laptop computers may be carried on board the aircraft as hand baggage and will not form part of that allowance.
"
with added security measures and restrictions following last week's events:
http://www.easyjet.com/en/news/security.html
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RE: New Security Restrictions In UK RE Photo Equipment

Tue Sep 18, 2001 11:12 pm

Andy

I take it you have some sort of camera bag for all your camera stuff. All that boarded OK and under the seat in front or overhead locker?

Hand searched?

Thanks for any info.

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RE: New Security Restrictions In UK RE Photo Equipment

Tue Sep 18, 2001 11:30 pm

I'm going thru FRA on LH tomorrow.
Anybody heard anything?
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RE: New Security Restrictions In UK RE Photo Equipment

Tue Sep 18, 2001 11:55 pm

Jan: no cockpit visits at the moment. I don´t know if you are allowed to take your photo equipment into the cabin...??? Maybe???

Have a nice flight!
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RE: New Security Restrictions In UK RE Photo Equipment

Wed Sep 19, 2001 3:26 am

Thanks for all the feed back. Tim.
 
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RE: New Security Restrictions In UK RE Photo Equipment

Wed Sep 19, 2001 3:34 pm

Hi,

I flew from Toronto to Vienna on the first day of airport operations (Sep, 13th). Some people were not allowed to take their cameras with them, though they had nothing against my bag with the camera inside. Searched me as on usual international flight.

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RE: New Security Restrictions In UK RE Photo Equipment

Thu Sep 20, 2001 6:04 pm

That is something to watch closely - the idea of checking in my camera seems revolting because of the damage, which insurance and airlines may not wish to cover, being caused. Certainly if you are travelling check with the airlines before you do and if they insist that such equipment be checked, ask about whether they will cover it. If not, check the insurance companies. Above all, for any assurance which you get ensure that a statement to that effect is put into writing and keep a copy safe at home.

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