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How Many Pics Do You Have?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 6:35 am

Well, since the sport of spotting has diminished somewhat recently... a lot of pics are still howing up in the new uploads that were taken some time ago...a year or two or more ago.

So, my question to you is, how many pics do you photographers have that you have not yet uploaded and/or scanned?

Do you scan/upload all the pics that you take, or keep some just for yourself?

When you go to shoot, how many of you just shoot and deal with what develops (no pun intended Big grin) or do you go specifically looking for the kinds of shots or planes that you know would make it on here?

Just wonderin'

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RE: How Many Pics Do You Have?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 6:40 am

I only scan my best shots, I usually only go spotting when the weather is sufficient to get good photos. And it makes it much more fun to go when I know that there is something like a 747 or an A340 just waiting to have its picture taken.

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RE: How Many Pics Do You Have?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 6:51 am

Hi Bruce,

Times change!

There was a time I'd scan and upload nearly everything I shot...and get them all bounced!!!

I know better now.

Also, I am now much more selective. At LHR in August I shot 30 rolls - not many of those will see the light of day here...only a few of the best...or most interesting. Others will go onto my personal site or the site Gary Watt and I do together for all our LHR stuff.

I shot about 25 rolls at ZRH in May. A lot of those are here but the majority just go into my collection...when I get round to sorting them all out - a winter job.

The local EMA stuff I shoot I upload a lot of as not many other photogs shoot there...so I upload it for interest value. You will see lots of cloudy shots (for instance) from EMA as I might only see that aircraft once. That said if the quality is not up to it I don't upload it.

And as you might have noticed... I upload lots of window shots and stuff...because I like them and you guys seem to like them too.


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For the last shot I must have taken about 10 shots as the sun started to shine on the engines and the wingtip...and this is the best of the lot. I'm quite pleased with it...handheld K64 (run at 50 ASA) in pretty grim light!

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Dean
 
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RE: How Many Pics Do You Have?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 7:42 am

Oh I love those window shots too! I take them whenever I can.

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50 rolls at ane shoot? hmm....at 24 exp. per roll that's 1200 sildes or prints! Wow...... I knew some people like to shoot planes but didn't know that much!

On average, how many shots do some of you take of one plane or one scene in order to get at least one or two high quality finished slides or prints?

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RE: How Many Pics Do You Have?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 2:33 pm

Depending on film, lighting, and aircraft (will I likely see it again soon) anything from 2 frames to an entire roll of the same one.
I think I average at about 3-4 frames per aircraft, including for the larger ones a nose- or tailshot (I love them, but they are almost impossible to get on here).
Problem is that most of what I like does not confirm to what Johan likes, so most never get uploaded at all. And of the rest, Johan does not seem to like the looks (colors, contrast, etc) as much as I do, or is put off by the clouds that are usually visible  Innocent
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RE: How Many Pics Do You Have?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 3:31 pm

I was with Dean and Gary at LHR and have uploaded 1 shot out of the 1300 or so that I took, but I havent even started to look at the rest yet  Wink/being sarcastic I took probably another 900 shots last week while I was on vacation and have another 500 or so that need going through!

There is no rush though gives me somtheing to do in the dark winter months  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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RE: How Many Pics Do You Have?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 3:34 pm

Dean, how come so many VS flights in such a short space of time???!

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RE: How Many Pics Do You Have?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 3:52 pm


Hi LGW,

Business!

LGW-BOS on the 12th August.

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Boston for 5 days.

BOS-LGW on the 16th August.

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Then a week at home.

Then LHR-SFO on the 23rd August.

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San Francisco for 4 days.

SFO-LHR on the 26th August.

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No "wing shots" on this flight as I got bumbed to Upper Class.  Smile

Hectic...but great fun.

Look out for lots of nice SFO shots!

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Dean
 
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RE: How Many Pics Do You Have?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 4:59 pm

I tend to "cherry pick" my immediate favorites from a particular batch of films, then file the rest away. These I'll re-visit later - maybe months or years later and re-asses. Quite often the "star" of a particular airport visit will grab my attention in the initial viewing, but months later I'll find I like the shots of other aircraft much more. Percentage uploaded varies considerably - some rolls are pure gold - others, well, I wonder why I bother!

Many many shots never get on here as they include people, or are not really just pictures of the aircraft. Aircraft feature in perhaps only 25% of my photography anyway.

Cheers,

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RE: How Many Pics Do You Have?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 6:19 pm

To answer the "big picture" question, I have well over 2000 processed films (over 70000 photographs) and of those around 0.8% of the photographs are on the database, so there's plenty for me to go at this winter.

On a trip to Florida earlier in the year, I shot 30 films (30 x 36 = 1080 photographs). None of these have yet been uploaded because there's nothing "urgent" in amongst them. I may upload a few of the really nice ones eventually, but probably no more than around 1% of the total.

On a more recent trip, I shot 50 films (50 x 36 = 1800 photographs). I will upload some of these pictures sooner rather than later, although probably no more than 50 (around 3%) despite there being a number of rather "rare" subjects in amongst the results.

Don't take this as a moan, but I think part of the problem newer photographers here have is that they expect to upload a high proportion of the stuff they shoot rather than just the absolute best or most interesting, and thus their expectations are not met. Or they just shoot one picture of a subject and don't get the best angle, etc, but still upload it. Same result... Just take a look at the figures the regulars are coming up with and its fairly obvious that only a fair proportion of photographs taken make it onto this database.

I now mainly upload older pictures or fairly rare subject matter - we're told that its easier to get rare subjects accepted, so this is the easiest way to maintain a high acceptance rate!!  Big grin


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RE: How Many Pics Do You Have?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 6:31 pm

Hi all

I have thousands that are not on Airliners. I probably never will add them.

Like Dean and Paul, tons of LHR stuff available and again......not for Airliners Big grin Sorry for bumming up my shot below......but hey...everyone else does it Big grin

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RE: How Many Pics Do You Have?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 8:24 pm

Right now I have about 80 rolls of film that I have not uploaded any pictures from yet. I suppose I'll get around to them in the next few months.

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RE: How Many Pics Do You Have?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 8:28 pm

Hi Charles

And maybe some from Singapore from you  Smile

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RE: How Many Pics Do You Have?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 8:34 pm

Yep, about 5 rolls worth!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Also some from Vienna, Kuala Lumpur, Geneva, Dusseldorf, Munich, Frankfurt, Amsterdam, Copenhagen, and Ostend.

Hey, I need to keep something for me to do when the winter weather sets in - in Geneva, it is pretty much constantly overcast from December to March.

I just got back to Geneva this morning, but I'll be going back to Singapore next week. (Sorry I couldn't match up my dates with your upcoming visit).

Cheers,

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RE: How Many Pics Do You Have?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 8:50 pm

Charles said:

Right now I have about 80 rolls of film that I have not uploaded any pictures from yet. I suppose I'll get around to them in the next few months

Is that a threat... or a promise???  Big grin Big grin

Sorry Charles, I really don't mean anything by that - I just couldn't resist making the comment!

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RE: How Many Pics Do You Have?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 9:01 pm

I've a collection of about 4.500 slides, and "only" 1.600+ are in the a.net database. Unfortunatelly most of the older shots do not have the necessary quality to get accepted. :-(

When I'm going to the airport, I make the usual shots but I also think at a.net to make certain/special ones if it comes to it.

This one was specifically made for this site:


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RE: How Many Pics Do You Have?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 10:10 pm

Andy, anyone else who's interested,

Out of the 80 rolls (about 2,900 pictures) I expect I will upload 400 or so.

I used to upload just about everything, but am trying to go more for quality now.

Cheers,

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RE: How Many Pics Do You Have?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 10:25 pm

No longer trying to swamp the system in the hope something sneaks past Johan, Charles?  Innocent
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Charles

Tue Sep 25, 2001 10:25 pm

Hi Charles

Photography at Singapore with no problems?

Hope the 'local people' were nice to you Big grin

I am hoping that things work out with my trip and I am blessed with some sunny days.

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RE: How Many Pics Do You Have?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 10:37 pm

Gary,

Make that "local person". I was surprised to see not a single other photographer except for Andy and some crazy Brit who boasted of having a collection of over 150,000 pictures (although the ones he showed me were terrible). Apparently photography at the fence is not really tolerated (but some nice spots though).

I'm going back there again next week.

Cheers,

Charles
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Charles

Tue Sep 25, 2001 10:46 pm


That "Crazy Brit" will be Nutty Norman from LHR.

Gary, Paul and I met him in August. Total loony!!!  Wink/being sarcastic

 
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RE: Charles

Tue Sep 25, 2001 11:25 pm

You beat me to it Dean  Laugh out loud

Luckily we didnt have to go through his photo collection!

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RE: How Many Pics Do You Have?

Wed Sep 26, 2001 12:38 am

Well.....I can see that i should be more liberal with taking shots. I would only take one or two on a particular jet. I guess the more you take the more chance you have of getting a real "keeper" out of the set.

I did try that on my trip this summer to Colorado (non-aviation). I took lots and lots of pics..duplicates on the same subject even...and made an album with the best ones....about 150 in all. And I have a stack of at least that many that didn't make my album that I probably will toss.

I was planning on doing similar with a trip to an airport...dang blasted terrorists killed the plan on 9/11  Pissed
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RE: How Many Pics Do You Have?

Wed Sep 26, 2001 12:39 am

Hi all

Nutty Norman..........hope not  Sad

Charles, my last photo trip to SIN was 1999 and the weather was not too good. I remember being picked up from the hotel and driving to the photo spot in a massive thundery downpour. My heart sank  Sad

Just a few hours at Changi along side the fence but got some shots:

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Sadly, this was the aircraft that was written off.

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RE: How Many Pics Do You Have?

Wed Sep 26, 2001 3:42 am

I think that all of us start out the same way - we see something we want to photograph and we take A pic. One photo. In time, we start taking a couple of shots of each a/c "to be on the safe side". We then graduate into taking shots of different angles, or maybe 3-4 continuous frames of an a/c on finals, until we end up one day blowing maybe half a roll of film on one special a/c we never saw before...  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

I've taken about 5000 shots since the start of July, all within the UK, and of those, around 400 have been added to the database, which is a pretty good percentage. Around 1 in 10 is the going rate with me, unless I'm trying something a bit different, in which case it drops to maybe as low as 1 in 30. Having a digital camera helps to reduce the cost of this sort of madness!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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This shot was one of a sequence of 6 of this 747 taking off. People seem to like it though.


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This shot was one of only two I uploaded from the 50+ shots I took from this spot on that particular day.
 
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RE: How Many Pics Do You Have?

Wed Sep 26, 2001 5:31 am

I know how it is though. I usually keep them if they get bounced but if they are really good I try to get them uploaded and hope that they get accepted. But I usually keep them though
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RE: How Many Pics Do You Have?

Wed Sep 26, 2001 6:50 am

I think the key is realising that film and processing is really the cheapest part of this hobby - when you figure the amount invested in equipment, travel, and above all TIME spent getting to the point where you can expect to get a half decent pic of that 747 on final approach - well frankly the cost of a roll or 2 of film doesn't really figure into it!

Never stint on the amount you shoot - even duplicate or near duplicate shots have value - either for trading or as insurance against scratches or loss.

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To Da Fwog

Wed Sep 26, 2001 7:48 am

400 out of 5000? Pretty low...and I think your pics are pretty good! I'd think for sure you would have a higher acceptance rate.

guess that's just one sign of the high standards used on here!!


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RE: How Many Pics Do You Have?

Wed Sep 26, 2001 8:28 am

i have a mass collection of 400!!!

I don't upload any anymore, i am just waiting until the quality is good enough to upload!

Although recently, i have purchased a magnifier (2x with backlight) and it seems that my "practise" slides aren't so bad after all  Smile

 
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RE: Chris Sheldon

Wed Sep 26, 2001 8:52 pm


Hi Chris,

So tell me. I know you used to shoot lots of slides. Now you're 100% digital do you bother shooting any slides?

Were the slides just a means to an end or did you collect them?

And what do you do now you seem to shoot most stuff with the new EOS 30D?

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RE: Chris Sheldon

Thu Sep 27, 2001 5:06 am

Bruce,

don't misunderstand me - I shot 5000 images, but I only bothered uploading 400, the rest are things that didn't work, things that nearly worked, things I tried even though I KNEW they wouldn't work, things where I shot a sequence of x frames and picked the best one, things I shot even though I knew I wouldn't upload them etc. I think my standards have gone up significantly since I started shooting digital (at the end of June) - I am much more into cherry-picking the best of my stuff to upload now, and I don't bother with the rest - it just gets filed on a rapidly-growing collection of CDRs.

Dean,

I've pretty much given up on shooting slides. For the most part, digital provides the resolution I need. Before I bought the D30, I thought "how many times in the last 3 years have I needed to enlarge a pic above 8x12?", and the answer came back "4 photos". Slides were always a means to an end. I don't project them, I don't trade them, and though when I first started shooting digital, I felt a desperate urge to shoot anything vaguely interesting on slide film, when I discovered the quality I could get from the D30, this urge kind of evaporated.

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RE: How Many Pics Do You Have?

Thu Sep 27, 2001 5:14 am

Chris - when ya sellin your scanner?  Big grin Big grin  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

I could get up to at least 1000 by the end of the year, although it would take alot of work!

Now for a scanner and some more films..

Regards

Dan

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