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Probably A Fake Picture

Fri Sep 28, 2001 2:22 am



This is making its way around the web in an email. the sender says this camera was found in the rubble & taken by the FBI for evidence. What do ya think? Fake?

My guess it is fake. But a chilling picture anyway.

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RE: Probably A Fake Picture

Fri Sep 28, 2001 2:35 am

I think it's a fake. Wasn't the observation deck on the south tower? This picture shows the plane approaching the north tower.

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RE: Probably A Fake Picture

Fri Sep 28, 2001 2:41 am

yes the obs deck was on the south tower
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RE: Probably A Fake Picture

Fri Sep 28, 2001 2:52 am

Why would anyone want to fake a red "X" in a white box?

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RE: Probably A Fake Picture

Fri Sep 28, 2001 2:59 am

thats poorly faked and in bad taste IMHO


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RE: Probably A Fake Picture

Fri Sep 28, 2001 3:02 am

ah, now I see it, and I've seen it before, and offcourse that is fake. Well made, but a tad distastefull, aye.

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RE: Probably A Fake Picture

Fri Sep 28, 2001 3:45 am

Fake to the faggot who made this!

The plane itself is also wrong.
I see that the color of the silver is much more pale than usual. I dont think in Mornign sun it would look like that.
But thats my opinion.
Somehow I thought i heard experts on CBC say that it was real?! harhar!
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RE: Probably A Fake Picture

Fri Sep 28, 2001 4:34 am

besides, you think that dude would just stand there like lambs and lions were friends and pose for a picture? hell no, he'd be pissin his shorts looking down at the plane....

 
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RE: Probably A Fake Picture

Fri Sep 28, 2001 4:44 am

What kind of plane is this? To me it looks like B738
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RE: Probably A Fake Picture

Fri Sep 28, 2001 4:56 am

Also notice that the weather is not the same as it was on 9-11-01 and the plane is an American 757 and not a 767. It is a serious fake and not even a good one. Whoever made it is gets my weekly award.
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RE: Probably A Fake Picture

Fri Sep 28, 2001 4:59 am

I also notice that bad faked date sign down in the right corner. Looking at the scan quality that should be much more blurred and transparent with a small glow around. Also, it's mostly in another orange color.

In other words - I would have done it better  Big grin But I don't have that bad taste...

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RE: Probably A Fake Picture

Fri Sep 28, 2001 5:02 am

Also, there is no way in heck any film survive the fire and fall from the top of the building. I once got to close to some lava in Hawaii and it destroyed an entire roll of film. I learned real fast not to go beyond safety barriers.
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RE: Probably A Fake Picture

Fri Sep 28, 2001 5:03 am

What am I doing wrong ? All I see is a broken graphic, no photo.

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RE: Probably A Fake Picture

Fri Sep 28, 2001 5:06 am

Thomas and others,

Here is the photo for those that couldn't view the first link:



Now, tell me.. who would be walking around New York on a 75° morning in a heavy coat and hat?  Smile

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RE: Probably A Fake Picture

Fri Sep 28, 2001 5:08 am

I would, coming from all night wild party hehehehe (j/k)  Big grin
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RE: Probably A Fake Picture

Fri Sep 28, 2001 5:09 am

Dang Chris, you beat me to it. Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: Probably A Fake Picture

Fri Sep 28, 2001 5:11 am

Thanks Chris,

I don't like the frequent use of the word fake, but in this case it certainly applies, as well as 'tasteless'.

As Chris pointed, why a heavy coat on such a warm morning ?

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RE: Probably A Fake Picture

Fri Sep 28, 2001 5:14 am

In fact, it's almost humorous how we all post our comments claiming it's fake - when it's such an obvious fake  Smile Can't understand who anyone could think it's real...

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RE: Probably A Fake Picture

Fri Sep 28, 2001 5:18 am

A lot of people who don't know anything about aviation, photography, and/or just very gullible will believe it. I got several e-mails from people I know who thought it was real.
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RE: Probably A Fake Picture

Fri Sep 28, 2001 5:45 am

Is this the AA757?

Fake, if it was that close on full power, I'm sure they wouldnt be just standing there. What about the photographer himself? He must have been looking right at it!
 
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RE: Probably A Fake Picture

Fri Sep 28, 2001 7:10 am

The American 757 crashed into the Pentagon. It was an American 767 that crahsed in the North Tower and a Unted 767 that crashed into the South Tower.
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RE: Probably A Fake Picture

Fri Sep 28, 2001 12:53 pm

I know its fake....I found it on another board & thought i'd amuse you by posting it here.

Now, I wonder where he got the plane pic from? Hope he didn't steal it from this database!

someone said, why would he just be standing there taking pics with a plane coming at him. Well, people do dumb things in these situations. Look at all the people who jumped from the 90th floor....did they actually think they'd hit the ground LIVING? What were they thinking? Well you got two choices: die in the fire/collapse or jump & die. Hmmmm.....

Actually, if I was in a disaster situation & had a camera present I probably would take as many pics as possible & hope it survives to be developed if I don't survive.

Grim thought, I know. But the last couple weeks I've often wondered what I would do if I found myself in that kind of situation.

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RE: Probably A Fake Picture

Fri Sep 28, 2001 4:19 pm

HA!
 
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RE: Probably A Fake Picture

Sat Sep 29, 2001 12:49 am

Not only is the airplane in the photo a long and slender 757-200 verses the actual airplane, a relativley short and stubby 767-200, but the shadows (or rather lack of ) on the airplane indicate the sun was high in the sky. Notice the dark shadow on the side of the man's face. That part of this composite image was taken early in the morning when the sun was relatively low in the sky. There should be major shadowing of the fuselage on the right wing.
 
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RE: Probably A Fake Picture

Sat Sep 29, 2001 1:27 am

Believe it or not, i saw this picture in the Chicago sun times yesterday, they specifically stated it was fake....


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RE: Probably A Fake Picture

Sat Sep 29, 2001 4:19 am

I am here officially to tell you that the picture is FAKE...the 757 was taken from one of my very own pictures specifically from airliners.net!!! here's the original pic:

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Click here for full size photo!

Photo © Jonathan Derden



so there you have it..one of my very own pics being distributed worldwide without permission...i wonder what Johan would say to this...i want to find the loser that did this..just like i want to punish those responsible for the attacks themselves...

jonathan derden

so tell all your friends that it is MY pic and that i did not let them have permission!!!  Angry
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RE: Probably A Fake Picture

Sat Sep 29, 2001 7:18 am

It's a bad fake, and sad to see the work of a aviation photographer misused in that way.

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RE: Probably A Fake Picture

Sat Sep 29, 2001 9:03 am

There is a website titled UrbanLegends.com that lists all the reasons this picture is a fake. The most damaging is that at the time of the impact - 1) the observation deck was not open and 2) the guy is dressed for a winter NY day and not a summer one.

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RE: Probably A Fake Picture

Sun Sep 30, 2001 12:19 am

Holy crap Jderden, you should find those who made it and sue them for some big bucks. Finding them won't be easy though.

Not the first time a a.net photo has been used like this.

A simillar episode here, though the pic itself is real, but I wonder if whoever made it had permission from the photographer.


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Photo © Jerry YAU





The original pic has disappeared, but the image is clearly taken from a.net

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RE: Probably A Fake Picture

Sun Sep 30, 2001 3:14 am

Wasnt the plane in an angle before the plane hit the towers?




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RE: Probably A Fake Picture

Sun Sep 30, 2001 11:53 pm

It's a fake because I saw another one like that on TV and if he would have heard the plane he would have turned around and saw it. And another thing, there were two 767's that crashed into the WTC not a 757.
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RE: Probably A Fake Picture

Mon Oct 01, 2001 2:36 am

I forgot to mention.

The 767s were on Full throttle when it slammed into the towers didnt it?

If hes showing a 757 crashing into it the plane has to be in full power. The T;s wont just glide the plane liek a seagul to a gentle baby-bottom tap on the towers.

So if it was full power, then that picture should of shown the lengthy exaust plumes behind the engines which stretch for some distance, but the picture shows that things even behind the engine are relatively sharp as far as Im concerned..

even the APU intake is present in that pict.. IM sure that in flight that intake is closed so the plane can fly better.

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RE: Probably A Fake Picture

Mon Oct 01, 2001 2:43 am

With all these evidences of the pic being a fake, that really isn't an issue anymore. The copyright violation should get the center of attention in my mind.

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