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Level Shot Or Not?

Tue Oct 02, 2001 7:24 pm

Hi all

Some people might not be aware but if your software program, for example Corel Photo Paint, has a 'Load Grid' feature, this is good for ensuring that your shot is truly level.

Line it up with buildings, landmarks, antenna etc, if available and you will have no more rejects from Johan and us Screeners for 'Non Level' shots  Smile

Regards

Gary Watt
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RE: Level Shot Or Not?

Tue Oct 02, 2001 8:30 pm

Gary,

Don't give so many hints! Finally everybody will get his photos accepted...

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RE: Level Shot Or Not?

Tue Oct 02, 2001 8:38 pm

nah, there is still "poor quality" which can cover anything from "I don't like that colour" to "there is a pixel too much space in front of the plane".
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RE: Level Shot Or Not?

Tue Oct 02, 2001 11:34 pm

Now here is a photo of mine that got rejected today because the angle of the camera does not seem to be straight compared to the
horizon.


Now this confuses me!  Confused

If you take a close look then you can realize that the buildings in the background (under the right wing as seen from your view) are horizontal. The church tower (under the left wing as seen from your view) is vertical.





Could it be that the screener hit the wrong button by mistake or are my old poor eyes missing something?  Sad

Any comments very much appreciated.

Regards

Edwin
 
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RE: Level Shot Or Not?

Tue Oct 02, 2001 11:50 pm

Sure enough, the horizon is level.

I expect it was a wrong button pushed. Unfortunately, I'm working on a laptop right now so I can't judge well the other aspects of the picture (on my screen the plane looks whited-out, but that may be this crappy screen)

S2

PS: No I do not screen photos when I'm using a laptop  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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S2

Tue Oct 02, 2001 11:57 pm

Thanks Screener2 for your reply and comment on that picture. I guess i should upload it once more and see what happens.

Regards

Edwin

PS: That plane was extremly white! Must have been previously washed with some kind of super detergent. Big grin
 
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RE: Level Shot Or Not?

Wed Oct 03, 2001 12:19 am

I find that the best way to sort things out is to have a few beers first... Then, pictures with sloping horizons look just as level as when I took them.  Big grin

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RE: Level Shot Or Not?

Wed Oct 03, 2001 2:42 am

I've also had shots rejected for "horizon not straight" when the verticals were vertical.
In some places the taxiways/runways are sloped (even at a pancake like AMS) which can lead to weirdlooking angles (aircraft running downhill when the lightpoles are vertical).
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RE: Level Shot Or Not?

Wed Oct 03, 2001 2:55 am

Level shot or not?


Click for large version
Click here for full size photo!

Photo © Vienne



BIG questionmark about this one  Smile

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RE: Level Shot Or Not?

Wed Oct 03, 2001 2:59 am

That's the kind I mean, Thom@s, thanks.
The lightpoles in the background are vertical, the visible horizon is definitively not.
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Fredrik Hjort
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RE: Level Shot Or Not?

Wed Oct 03, 2001 3:28 am

Yeah that's a hard question. Should the composition be horizontal if you have a visible horizon or should then the horizon be horizontal *phew*  Confused

Many airports have rwy and twy which aren't horizontal...

/Fredrik
 
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RE: Level Shot Or Not?

Wed Oct 03, 2001 3:35 am

Jwenting:
Did you check the poles on the pic above????
They are definetely not vertical.
Peter
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RE: Level Shot Or Not?

Wed Oct 03, 2001 3:39 am

I agree - they aren't vertical - BUT I think if you level the poles vertical the horizon aren't going to be horizontal. Or did I see wrong?

/Fredrik
 
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RE: Level Shot Or Not?

Wed Oct 03, 2001 3:48 am

IMHO the visible verticals (poles, buildings, ...) should be vertical no matter what the horizon or the runway looks like.
Peter
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RE: Level Shot Or Not?

Wed Oct 03, 2001 4:14 am

Yes!!! I have had a picture rejected because it was not level, but where the aircraft was it was going down a slope underneath the runway, so it looked like it was not level Big grin

And for people taking pictures of Commuter aircraft, they should always look nose down while in the air, and George Polfliet showed this in one of his pictures (in my photo gallery user profile Big grin)..

Regards

Dan
 
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RE: Level Shot Or Not?

Wed Oct 03, 2001 4:19 am

They are almost level. Making them level would not make the ground horizontal  Smile
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RE: Level Shot Or Not?

Wed Oct 03, 2001 4:32 am

for example: http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=N234NW-20010923020.JPG
Put a ruler to the red/white building and you will see it is vertical. Same with the lightpoles.

If not, get a straight ruler...
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RE: Level Shot Or Not?

Wed Oct 03, 2001 4:50 am

Attn GIMP users.

If you want to check you horizons are absolutely level:

Right click on your image:
Tools >> Transform Tools >> Transform.
Rotate the image until it "looks" right.

then check by:

Tools >>Transform Tools >> Crop and Resize.
This will open the cropping tool on your picture.
Don't crop the picture, just use the lines created by the cropping tool as a horizontal reference. It is exact!
It's better than placing a rule against the screen.

Gerry/EDI

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