EGGD
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Copyright Violation!?!?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 1:19 am

Hi guys,

I have just found two photos that i believe are a copyright violation. Firstly, this photo of Andy Hunt's:


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Which is here:

http://www.aviate.ws/showphoto.cgi?photoid=954

Andy - you don't happen to have an alter ego do you?

Secondly, a picture taken out of "Boeing" by David Lee, of VH-OJB being rolled out on page 106. Which is here:

http://www.aviate.ws/showphoto.cgi?photoid=955

Although, this seems like the scan is better than the picture so maybe the company bought the picture off the photographer, i don't know.

Anyone help?

Regards

Dan
 
EGGD
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RE: Copyright Violation!?!?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 1:27 am

Ok judging by Andrew Pollitt's photos i take it its not Andy's Alter ego  Big grin

http://www.aviate.ws/listphotos.cgi?wildcard=Andrew+Pollitt

Regards

Dan
 
LGW
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RE: Copyright Violation!?!?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 1:32 am

All of a sudden Mr Pollitt's lens has grown by about 300mm! and has got a new scanner!

LGW
 
SafetyDude
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RE: Copyright Violation!?!?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 11:12 pm

I don't understand the question or why the Quantas plane is there.
-Will
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Pe@rson
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RE: Copyright Violation!?!?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 11:56 pm

I am sorry to disappoint you, but I sincerely doubt that any of Airliners.net's photographs are officially protected from copyright. Presuming they are not, they are not copyrighted. Consequently, people are lawfully (under English Law) allowed to use everyone's photographs on this site for whatever purpose.




"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
 
Jan Mogren
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RE: Copyright Violation!?!?

Sun Nov 18, 2001 12:35 am

People have no right whatsoever to do that without permission.
Especially not in the case of Andy's shot with a new persons name as photographer!
/JM
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Pe@rson
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RE: Copyright Violation!?!?

Sun Nov 18, 2001 12:40 am

Yes, they do. If each photograph is not officially registered it is not copyrighted. Thus, anyone can use it for whatever purpose they desire. This is lawful. If they were copyrighted, then it would be unlawful.

I am a Law student, so take it from me!

"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
 
Guest

RE: Copyright Violation!?!?

Sun Nov 18, 2001 12:44 am

Hi Pe@rson

You'll have to brush up on your knowledge regarding copyright. English law won't save you or anybody else on this matter.

Gerry/EDI
 
da Fwog
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RE: Copyright Violation!?!?

Sun Nov 18, 2001 12:49 am

Pe@rson:

please check your facts before posting. You are only allowed to freely use materials that are placed in the public domain. I own the copyrights to all of my photographs, have placed none of them in the public domain, and assert my rights by placing a copyright mark of either my own or Airliners.net upon them. If anybody then wishes to use them without my permission, they have had fair warning that they are doing so unlawfully.

Perhaps you should read a little further in your law books before making arrogant postings that suggest you know more than the rest of us.
 
Pe@rson
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RE: Copyright Violation!?!?

Sun Nov 18, 2001 12:53 am

Ok - we do not cover this topic, and so therefore I am not in a real position to confidently give my professional opinion. I will visit the library and research the situation.
"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
 
Guest

RE: Copyright Violation!?!?

Sun Nov 18, 2001 1:04 am

Thanks pal.... I don't think we'll hear from you on this matter again then...
 
andyhunt
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RE: Copyright Violation!?!?

Sun Nov 18, 2001 1:06 am

Thanks for spotting this Dan, I'll follow up and keep you posted on progress.

Andrew
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Pe@rson
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RE: Copyright Violation!?!?

Sun Nov 18, 2001 1:07 am

You will, when I am possession of the true facts. I did not choose Commercial Law modules, in which Copyright is taught.

Now - gonna buy me a beer?  Smile
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EGGD
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RE: Copyright Violation!?!?

Sun Nov 18, 2001 1:20 am

What about the book, surely taking a picture from a book and then posting it on the internet as one of your own is illegal...

I will go scan the page in to show you its the same picture..

Regards

Dan
 
jwenting
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RE: Copyright Violation!?!?

Sun Nov 18, 2001 1:22 am

Copyright is implicit, not explicit.
The only thing registering copyright does (in the US) is make it easier to prove in court it is actually yours (as there is now a date attached to it as to when it was created).
Internationally, this is not required. Copyright online is of course very difficult to enfore. Whose copyright law should apply, for example.
Unless everyone is in the same country, several laws might apply (and in the US, that means the same state...).
- country of origin of the photographer
- country of origin of the company owning the site (logical)
- country of origin of the company owning the hardware
- country where the hardware is located
- country of origin of the suspected violator
- country where the violation took place
etc..
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RE: Copyright Violation!?!?

Sun Nov 18, 2001 1:35 am

Correct Jwenting.

Once Pe@rson in posession of the facts (International, not English) then he'll be more enlightened.

Buy you a beer? Maybe...

Your round first....I'll have a single malt....

Gerry/EDI
 
jwenting
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RE: Copyright Violation!?!?

Sun Nov 18, 2001 2:44 am

Make that one large orange juice, no ice.
I don't like beer (call me weird, I don't like anything bitter...)  Big thumbs up
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Pe@rson
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RE: Copyright Violation!?!?

Sun Nov 18, 2001 3:29 am

lol!! Well, that's not so bad, Jwenting, as it could be a cheaper evening! Actually, my girlfriend, who very rarely drinks, can get tipsy on two Hooches. In contrast, I frequently spend £30 or so when out. However, I have not been out for sometime, so perhaps next time it will be less.

Anyway, one orange juice for you, a pint of Foster's for me and whatever the Scottish chap wants.  Smile
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