LGW
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Fed Up With Digital Photography - More Problems!

Mon Dec 03, 2001 5:56 am

Last time it was my photos seemed to light now the opposite.

I am really pi$$ed off at the moment with my digi cam. I know the problem is all mine but I dont understand!

Take a look (resized to load faster)



Its so dark. Was a cloudy day but quite bright, no where near as dull as the photo suggests. Whats wrong? What am I doing!?

Please help, I have just about come to the end of my teather with digital photography

LGW
 
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RE: Fed Up With Digital Photography - More Problems!

Mon Dec 03, 2001 6:08 am

Most likely, your shutter speed is too fast. Are you shooting in manual or auto mode? Also, what kind of camera is it?

Shoot a few in auto mode to see what settings the camera uses. I normally shoot in auto (except for night stuff), but if the camera isn't doing what I want it to do, I'll just switch over to manual and do it my way.

These problems you are having is what's GOOD about digital photography. Didn't you notice how dark it was in the LCD screen? If the shot doesn't turn out, take notes, delete it, and try again...

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RE: Fed Up With Digital Photography - More Problems!

Mon Dec 03, 2001 6:18 am

Does this

look better to you. You could send me the original if you would like me to play araund with it.
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RE: Fed Up With Digital Photography - More Problems!

Mon Dec 03, 2001 6:35 am

Yup, for the light your shutter speed is too low.

I found this while messing around in my house with my new camera, the faster the shutter speed the darker it gets, what was cool was that the LCD display showed that the picture got darker and darker, the faster the shutter speed.

I had slight trouble on Saturday when i forgot to lower the shutter speed as it got darker and probably wasted the best light i have seen ever.

try using Program mode, it seems the best option.

Don't lose faith! I wasted alot of frames on Saturday but i have my camera sussed now, i also got pissed off at the purple fringing that kept appearing, and i'm worried about going to LHR if its going to be like that with backlit subjects.

Regards

Dan
 
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RE: Fed Up With Digital Photography - More Problems!

Mon Dec 03, 2001 12:36 pm

This photo you show us gives an excellent example of a metering problem, assuming you shot in program mode. The bulk of the photo is white; two rather white aircraft, and white fog. Your camera is going to see this as being very bright, as on a sunny day on a ski slope. It tries to neutralize everything to a mid gray, which works for most pictures, but for some pictures it obviously isn't right. What would compound the problem is if you have the camera set to either spot metering or center-weighted average metering and you had metered on the large tail section.

This would also explain why some of your other pics come out too bright-- if you had metered on a black or very dark area.

In either case, just look at the scene and decide if the picture involves lots of white or dark that could throw the meter off. If it does, throw in a stop of exposure compensation and see if that does the trick. The problems you are having is not strickly digital- it would happen to any camera that uses a similar metering method. If you look at any film photo guide book, they talk about this issue at length, referring to film cameras.

Hope this helps!

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RE: Fed Up With Digital Photography - More Problems!

Mon Dec 03, 2001 1:39 pm

Ben,

This happens... Take a break - go out on the town - do something else for a while. I've been shooting with the same camera. Sometimes she treats me good - but sometimes she frustrates the hell out of me. You have captured some nice shots with this camera Ben - relax - you'll get more...
 
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RE: Fed Up With Digital Photography - More Problems!

Mon Dec 03, 2001 7:25 pm

Another problem might be the colourspace used to record the image.
If the camera does not use the same colourspace used by the screen (and most screens use sRGB or Photoshop colourspace) things like that can easily happen.
The same symptoms can result from having a scanner use the wrong colourspace.
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RE: Fed Up With Digital Photography - More Problems!

Mon Dec 03, 2001 11:06 pm

I'm new to digital photography too, and all I can say is that you have to be very patient. Don't think that you can take brilliant pics after just a few test shots.

Problems I've had include not knowing what settings to use on the camera, and problems in getting the photos properly uploaded to my computer and printed out properly. You've got to have the right software, eg. Photoshop, and not just the software that comes with the camera. In my experience, the free software is very unreliable.

What I do to prevent wasting an entire day is to shoot using differnet modes/settings. E.g. I sometimes use auto, sometimes manual. This way, at least some of your pics will come out ok.

If you what to know more about the problems I've had with digital photography and the ways I've used to get round the problems, pls email me.

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LGW
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RE: Fed Up With Digital Photography - More Problems!

Tue Dec 04, 2001 5:16 am

Thanks for ya help, I think it was to do with the shutter speed.

Many thanks

LGW
 
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RE: Fed Up With Digital Photography - More Problems!

Tue Dec 04, 2001 8:41 am

You havew the same exact problem I have. Use Adobe and it will get better!

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RE: Fed Up With Digital Photography - More Problems!

Tue Dec 04, 2001 2:19 pm

Adobe can only be the last step to get them better. The first step should be to watch your camera. It should show you somewhere if the picture will be over or underexposed.
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RE: Fed Up With Digital Photography - More Problems!

Wed Dec 05, 2001 12:09 am

Yes, if you do something badly wrong then Photoshop's tools are limited, modifying a photo so far will mean you loose huge amounts of quality.

I found this out early (lucky for me), i think you just didn't encounter this problem for some time.

Regards

Dan

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