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Some Of My First Attempts:

Tue Dec 04, 2001 1:20 pm

Hi everyone,

This is one of my few posts in the Aviation Photography forum and I hope there will be many more after this  Smile

I just scanned some shots I took while in Billings, MT.. Phoenix, AZ, Denver, CO... etc..

I am not sure if these are worthy of being uploaded, what do you think? I used 400 ASA flim in a Yashica Elite 70 on the first two photos. The last was captured from a Sony Camcorder. I will try and capture more because they appear to be in the best quality. I hope to purchase an SLR soon.  Big grin

I keep having trouble with either being a little blurry or too sharp in Photoshop. Have any ideas?

Here are a few so far, I'll add more once I get them up:

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RE: Some Of My First Attempts:

Tue Dec 04, 2001 4:18 pm

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RE: Some Of My First Attempts:

Wed Dec 05, 2001 5:16 am

Hi Serge,

I really like the second photo. (Here's the but coming...). There are two things that you ought to consider in that photo.

The first is the visible grain - particularly in the sky portion of the photo. To address this issue in the future you may want to try two things: (1) film speed and type and (2) scanning technique. At this point I'm assuming that you're using a regular SLR camera (film camera) and not digital, so I shall offer a few words regarding the former. Others in the forum are definitely better suited to offer advice using digital cameras should that be a consideration for you.

Second, the terrain does not seem level. You would need to straighten that out using one photo enhancement product or another (Photoshop, PhotoPaint, PaintShopPro, Gimp...) To get a photo just right requires a certain element of editing.

Regarding films I would suggest using slower film (50, 100 or 200 ISO or ASA). This will substantially reduce the visible grain in a photo. Not that this is bad. Certain situations offer no choice but to use faster film, and in other cases the presence of grain adds a special quality to a photo. However in clear daylight (as in your photo) and particularly for useful for quality, a slow film provides much better results.

Second issue is that of scanning. There are two types of scanning - photo (prints), using a flatbed scanner and slide scanning, using dedicated slide scanners. The benefits/drawbacks of each are quite straightforward. Flatbed scanners are relatively cheaper than slide scanners and are effective for scanning items other than photos. Slide scanners, on the other hand, offer much better scanning resolution (images are thus of better quality) but are more expensive than flatbeds. Regardless of the scanner used, the point is to find a medium which provides you with the most satisfying results for your needs and scan at the highest resolution possible.

Hope this helps,

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RE: Some Of My First Attempts:

Wed Dec 05, 2001 5:18 am

Sorry... make that the first photo in the desert. The second one's not bad either but it's too far in the distance.

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RE: Some Of My First Attempts:

Wed Dec 05, 2001 7:29 am

These are pretty respectable for first attempts.
I only looked at the first two and here's what I think.

First Photo: Not bad but could be better. There is a lot of sky in the picture with the subject aligned near the bottom quarter of the shot. Try and frame it near the centre or 1/3 the way up the shot. The picture's also grainy but this is attributed to the hight film speed. Personally I would have zoomed in a bot more from this angle maybe as far as the outboard engines, it would have made the shot look better but again this is personal taste.

Second Photo: Zoom in a bit more in future. The shot is slightly out of focus and under exposed. I'd attribute the under exposure to the light meter giving you an incorrect reading due to the huge amount of white in the frame.

Get an SLR ASAP and I can assure you that your will greatly improve

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RE: Some Of My First Attempts:

Wed Dec 05, 2001 9:27 am

Thank you both for your nice replies. I will try to use a lower film in the future for sunny photos. And I will be sure to buy an SLR when I have the money. Can you recommend a good one for under $350?

The grainy particles really bug me, it seems to happen when I scan the photo using my Memorex 6142u flatbead scanner (42 bit).

The same photos have much more quality when the image size isn't as large. I posted these same shots just resized and some others on my site,, please take a look.


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