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Adding Value To The Database...

Thu Dec 13, 2001 6:27 pm



Hi everyone,

Something to think about and discuss.

Do any of you feel that there is an increasing tendency for photographers to enter into some sort of competition to see who can upload the most shots from any one shoot (or location) the quickest?

Recently there have been many shots uploaded from some locations that do little more than increase the individual photographers total number of shots. Indeed it seems there are some photographers who are obsessed with adding as manyshots as they can on an almost daily basis.

I would question whether this is adding any real value to this database...or does it serve only to hide the really interesting stuff beneath a pile of "seen it all before"?

Maybe it's the increasing use of digital cameras. Certainly this affords photographers the facility to take many more shots without being in the least bit discriminating as to what they shoot or what they then choose to painstakingly scan and upload.

I think it's probably true to say that slide shooters will take some time to sift through their slides and then decide to scan and upload only those they think will be of most interest to visitors to this site, or are of exceptional quality.

From comments I read in this forum I believe there are others who feel the same way.

Is it not time that we collectively took a step backwards and looked long and hard at what we upload here, and upload not for our own selfish, competitive ends (come on guys...enough willy waving*), but begin to be a little more discerning and to seek to upload shots that add real value to the database.

Regards,
Dean

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RE: Adding Value To The Database...

Thu Dec 13, 2001 7:33 pm

Hi Dean,

I have to say you hit the nail. This is just the same what I think about that. Some guys here are just trying to upload as many shots they have, not regarding how many shots of this airline/aircraft are already in the database.

In another thread I read that a guy was uploading almost every single shot he has, so if a company is looking for a particular aircraft he will have the best chances to make the money out of it. I think this is not the thing this database is for.

It is boring to see every day an American MD80 or a Qantas B737 or an Austrian MD80. There should be much more variety. Certainly here are also some reg collectors and they have also the right to find/upload every single reg or the American MD80s, but for, I think, most of us, it is boring.

Just my 2 cents.

Regards

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RE: Adding Value To The Database...

Thu Dec 13, 2001 7:40 pm

Hi all

I tend to agree with Dean.

Having the D30 and the 2 Microdrives it would be so easy for me to add my 600+ images from Singapore. I have chosen not to do this. Maybe 3 or 4 at a time but never more in one upload.

Possibly over time I will add a lot more but I will also weed out a lot.

I still abide by the sames rules as when I used print film.....upload the ones I think look good and think long and hard about the ones that I am not sure about.

I probably have about 7 shots of this aircraft on the move:

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All look pretty good but I chose to add only the one so far. I might push it to 2 or 3 over a space of time.

Regards

Gary Watt
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RE: Adding Value To The Database...

Thu Dec 13, 2001 8:32 pm

I have no problem with uploading one pic of every aircraft you shoot...even if this results in loads of American MD80s or Lufthansa B737s or so on.

But I am sick of people who upload up to 10 shots of the same aircraft at the same day at the same place ...and sometimes in really bad conditions.

My suggestion:
If you uploaded a pic of an aircraft and you get a better pic later: use the re-upload function (and correct the database enty if necessary)

Regards,
Torben
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RE: Adding Value To The Database...

Thu Dec 13, 2001 8:32 pm

Hmmm. I find that now I'm shooting digital I actually take a much more diverse range of pics than before, and there are an awful lot of shots I have that are technically fine, but I choose not to upload. Why? Because I'm becoming more interested in the variety of things I can get than the number of pictures.

I'm not completely convinced that digital cameras are the main cause of this - just have a look at the output of Gary, Andrew, Jason, Colin, Paul & myself for example, and see how many gratuitous "willy-waving" shots there are. Not too many, I think.
 
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RE: Adding Value To The Database...

Thu Dec 13, 2001 8:34 pm

I agree too. I wouldn't upload, for example, a BA shuttle unless it was a new reg, shot from a very interesting angle or, like the shot above, was just sickeningly good  Smile

I prefer to keep the ordinary run of the mill shots to myself and just upload the ones that I hope others will enjoy. There are plenty of good aircraft movements databases around, without A.net becoming one too.....

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RE: Adding Value To The Database...

Thu Dec 13, 2001 8:35 pm

I thought the re-upload function was only for rescans and not for a completely new photo of the same a/c???

Is it ok to upload new photos 'over' old ones??

Thanks,

Staffan
 
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RE: Adding Value To The Database...

Thu Dec 13, 2001 8:43 pm

Whilst I do try to hold off uploading everything, I do have half an eye on covering off the reg numbers of the various fleets.

You never know when someone might want a shot of a particular aircraft so it seems wise to make sure you've covered most of them just in case.

Bear in mind as well that to me, because I haven't been doing this that long, almost everything I shoot is exciting. I must confess to getting a bit bored with BA 7n7 shots but everything else is new to me. I therefore figure that other people might like to see them too.

J
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RE: Adding Value To The Database...

Thu Dec 13, 2001 8:50 pm

Staffan,
you are right.

But this is a suggestion of using it a new way.

Outside the digital world:
If I get a better shot of an aircraft I will replace the slide in my collection and not add the new slide...

Regards,
Torben
 
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RE: Adding Value To The Database...

Thu Dec 13, 2001 8:53 pm

Hi all

Quality v Quantity..........I know what I would choose.

Regards

Gary Watt
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RE: Adding Value To The Database...

Thu Dec 13, 2001 8:55 pm

Torben,
I think that sounds as a good idea, perhaps this is something that can be implemented?

This would certainly increase the quality of the whole database.

Regards,

Staffan
 
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RE: Adding Value To The Database...

Thu Dec 13, 2001 9:12 pm


"I'm not completely convinced that digital cameras are the main cause of this - just have a look at the output of Gary, Andrew, Jason, Colin, Paul & myself for example, and see how many gratuitous "willy-waving" shots there are. Not too many, I think."

Ok...

Gary...no problem.
Andrew (I assume Hunt)...no problem.
Colin...(Ckw or Abbott)...either way, no problem.
Paul (I assume Dopson)...no problem.

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Mmmmm...so who's got the biggest one then guys?

Much of a much me thinks...same day...same location...same composition...yet 6 from one photographer...

Willy waving...I think so.
Value...open to debate.

Regards,
Dean

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RE: Adding Value To The Database...

Thu Dec 13, 2001 9:12 pm

Deans obviously been looking at my LHR shots Big grin

To go along with what Gary has said I took 325 pictures on Sunday and have uploaded 40ish. I look for new registrations / aircraft first and then for some nice looking shots of exsisting aircraft.

When i first got the S1 i would upload any old shot (some say i still do!) well it was new then but I now have a better idea of what im and Airliners are looking for. When I was at LHR with Gary and Dean I took nearly 1400 shots but i think only 5-6 are on Airliners.

regards

PAul
 
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RE: Adding Value To The Database...

Thu Dec 13, 2001 9:14 pm


PS - resigned to having all my shots bounced in future for "diss-ing" at least one screener... Wink/being sarcastic
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RE: Adding Value To The Database...

Thu Dec 13, 2001 9:17 pm

I'm very much in favour of replacing an old shot of a subject with a better example. I would rather some of my older uploads were not seen at all! As it is, I will tend to upload a better shot of a plane even if I have one in the database as I'd rather people see the best and worst I can produce rather than just the worst!

I also think more time should be spent on rescanning old shots - I had started a campaign of doing this until Johan raised the print sales thing - since this may affect the optimum sizing of the upload, I've put this on pause until more info is available.

I think more could be done to promote re-uploading. The problem is once an item is in the system it quickly becomes buried and is only found by chance or a specific search - a study of almost any pic's hit rate curve will show this to be the case. So one might cynically ask if its worth the effort of reloading?

Would a "recently improved" section be useful? I think this would
a) provide an incentive to everyone to improve their existing work
b) perhaps redirect some effort from producing safe but dull new shots into improving the quality of the dbase
c) Many of our personal favorites are long since buried away - it would be a way of showing these golden oldies to our newer visitors.

Actually, I see no problem in treating a reload like a new pic, ie. the submission date is changed to the reload date.

As to repetitive 7?7s etc. - it does seem to be what our viewers want to see. We all know that a UA 747 is going to get many more hits than many rarer subjects (photo quality being equal). I don't understand this - I'm always looking for pics of things I haven't seen before! - but it does seem to be the case, so there is an argument for providing what the punters want.

Cheers,

Colin
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RE: Adding Value To The Database...

Thu Dec 13, 2001 9:17 pm

Well guys,

The quality v quantity arguement doesn't work as the screeners are supposed to ensure that only quality gets uploaded.

As for loads of pics, well .. if they want to upload them and they get uploaded, what's the worry? You don't need to look at them!  Laugh out loud


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RE: Adding Value To The Database...

Thu Dec 13, 2001 9:27 pm

Hi all

Didn't think it would take long before ADG added a VALUABLE contribution Big grin

Regards

Gary Watt
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RE: Adding Value To The Database...

Thu Dec 13, 2001 9:55 pm

Dean,

I figured you were sniping at me when I first saw the post however I decided to wait until the 'muzzle flash' gave away your position.

Right, onto the defence.

That's the first time I've ever been to that particular spot. Chris was kind enough to take me over on Saturday and we were inevitably going to end up shooting similar shots. I think it would be fair to say I have a dupe of every shot Chris took and vice versa. We shot a combined total of about 250 frames. Chris uploaded some stuff first and the first thing I did was look at his stuff and make sure I didn't upload an identical shot to his. [Unfortunately I missed one of the queue dupes]. I even went to the trouble of clarifying what Chris had in the queue by e-mail to make sure there was no risk of duping anything else.

Now I've never shot stuff there before and it all looks new and fresh to me. I think the UA 777 shots, both Chris' and mine, are great shots and examining the hits they've received so far [in my case 105 hits since upload an hour or so ago] would bear out the assertion that the users of the site think so to.

So it's the same queue, so what? The 27L approaches [with some exceptions] are usually shot from the same Myrtle Avenue field, are you suggesting we shouldn't upload these shots because it's the same boring spot?

The shots aren't the same and, to the best of my knowledge the others Chris or I upload won't be the same because we'll bloody well make sure they're not.

I happen to have on my hard disk a set of shots I'm proud of [like I say it's completely new to me]. I've taken the best, checked the db and discarded the dupes, and I've uploaded them for the users of the site to see. I don't actually care what the photographers on the site think of them, you're not my target market. Sure it's nice to be well regarded by your peers but really Dean, if you think I'm a wanker who's obsessed with out-Sheldoning Sheldon then I couldn't care less.

J
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RE: Adding Value To The Database...

Thu Dec 13, 2001 10:07 pm


Whoa! Jason...chill out.

Not sniping at you...I believe I am record here as saying your stuff is bloody good (ref MAN 747 post).

Can't be bothered to write more...said my bit...but I still love your stuff Jason.

Cheers,
Dean

PS - I only mentioned willy waving...not the 'W' word... Wink/being sarcastic




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RE: Adding Value To The Database...

Thu Dec 13, 2001 10:09 pm

So Jason...does this mean I won't be getting a Christmas card then... Sad
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RE: Adding Value To The Database...

Thu Dec 13, 2001 11:05 pm

What I find interesting about those shots is that they are - different. Same location, same time, same D30, same lens? but Chris's and Jason's are distinctly different in appearance, presumably due to camera settings. Just goes to show even in an all digital world there is still room for photographer's interpretation.

And if I remember correctly, it was a bit cold for anyone to be waving willies that afternoon  Smile

Cheers,

Colin
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RE: Adding Value To The Database...

Thu Dec 13, 2001 11:39 pm

Wow............hot topic!

I agree with Gary, quality, not quantity. Still, everybody is different, and Johan + Screeners can upload what they see fit. You choose what you want to submit, Johan and the Screeners choose what passes. If you don't like it, don't look at it. I personally have no issue with Jason or Chris' shots. Think that they are all great.

Each to their own, methinks.

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RE: Adding Value To The Database...

Fri Dec 14, 2001 1:39 am

Dean - how about yours and Garys shots at LHR last summer? I've seen two or three that look identical from you too Big grin.

Those que shots were great, i think alot of people really liked them.

I have seem some people upload large amounts of shots in one go, whereas i'd prefer maybe 5 or 6 at a time.

Regards

Dan
 
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RE: Adding Value To The Database...

Fri Dec 14, 2001 2:11 am

I never thought it would happen that someone has to explain (not exactly the right word but excuse is wrong also) why he uploads pictures.
I think the visitors of the site should be the ones who judge if they like pictures or not. If you look through the recent uploads just take a look at the ones you like and skip the ones you dont like. That shouldnt be that difficult?
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RE: Adding Value To The Database...

Fri Dec 14, 2001 2:25 am

I certainly try to upload shots which are uncommon,
I have only 73 photos here and about 20-30% of these were or still are the only photos of particular acft in the database (check my profile)





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RE: Eggd

Fri Dec 14, 2001 3:08 am


My shots...the same (or almost the same) as Gary's...?

In my dreams!!!

He is The Master  Big thumbs up




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RE: Adding Value To The Database...

Fri Dec 14, 2001 3:14 am

How naive I must be - I read the 1st post in all innocence and it never occurred to me that a swipe was being taken at me.

I didn't really want to get drawn into this, but I feel compelled to say at least something...

Dean, the 8 photos you chose to show have received a combined 3855 hits since they were taken on Saturday last. So I assume someone thinks they are adding value. In any case, what's the problem with a BA A319 with a queue of aircraft behind it, and a Crossair MD83 with a queue of aircraft behind it, and a 'flot 310 with a queue behind it - these are different aircraft. They are different pictures.

Recently, I have been going out of my way to try to "add value" to the database by constantly trying to seek out different spots, different angles and constantly trying different things. I've spent a small fortune on gear this year, so I'm quite jealous of you, Gary and many others who have been able to manage to travel widely. In the main (although not exclusively) I've been confined to shooting within the UK for a lot of the year, so I have used the opportunity to learn the airports better, and try to get a new angle on a familiar subject, if you like. So although you are of course entitled to your opinion, I find this criticism rather disappointing. Maybe I should just go back to standing at the end of Myrtle Ave and shooting a/c on finals?
 
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Fri Dec 14, 2001 4:44 am


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RE: Adding Value To The Database...

Fri Dec 14, 2001 4:58 am

The above post speaks for itself...
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RE: Adding Value To The Database...

Fri Dec 14, 2001 5:04 am

I go with Kingwide and JM!

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RE: Adding Value To The Database...

Fri Dec 14, 2001 5:09 am

Where is Vasco, Mark G, Jan and Tommy Mogren, Glen Alderton and Jason Milligan ? Now these guys will search for diffrent perspectives and angles. Frankly it seems that creativity is suffering just a bit on A.Net over the last several months.

The last photos that 'floored' me were Vasco's fog shots that were uploaded several weeks back. Since then......yaaaawwn!

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Willy Waving?

Fri Dec 14, 2001 6:33 am

Hi all

Maybe it's an English thing, but can anyone tell a Northern Scottish guy what this means??

Thanks

Gary Watt
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RE: Adding Value To The Database...

Fri Dec 14, 2001 6:38 am

Hi all

EGGD and DaFwog......please keep my name out of your posts.....please.

Regards

Gary Watt
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RE: Adding Value To The Database...

Fri Dec 14, 2001 7:25 am

Hey Thomasphoto, You mentioned my name  Smile/happy/getting dizzy I don't see that too often. But nothing I have uploaded recently impressed you  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Oh well, time to throw my camera's away  Wink/being sarcastic

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RE: Adding Value To The Database...

Fri Dec 14, 2001 7:32 am

Glen,

You indeed have some very stunning shots, perhaps I missed over a few since I rarely look at the military and corporate/civil shots.

Hell, I put my cameras away (at least for aviation shots) this past August.

Thomas
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RE: Adding Value To The Database...

Fri Dec 14, 2001 9:09 am

Thomas!

You are a hard one to please!

What about these ones added in the last few days? I've seen heaps of brilliant shots uploaded recently, and they're getting better every day!

Check these out:-

Great angle and great colours - lovely shot and superb quality!

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Now this one just looks magnificent!

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Nice colours, nice plane, nice angle - damn nice shot!

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All those were uploaded overnight along with many other superb shots.

What about these recent ones?

Brilliant! If only Sydney was like this!!!

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I just love this one! Nice angle + special effects!

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Now this ones quite nice!

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Another Qantas 747, but what a nice shot!

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Now, it would be nice I admit if EVERY shot on here made it into the "Editors Choice" section, but it's never going to happen. The diversity of shots that find there way to www.airliners.net is beyond description. If you want it, it's here. Art, collection shots, unique shots, rare shots, ultralights, baloons all feature here at www.airliners.net! That is why this site is what it is - the sheer diversity contained within this site makes it the undisputed king of aviation sites available on the internet.

We all shoot different aircraft, different ways with different equipment and for different reasons. If someone wants to add every shot they have to this site - let them. Ultimately the site will be better off for it because if the team like it, it's added, if not it's rejected - simple as that. I don't add every shot I take, infact nothing could be further from the truth. But if I Glenn, Frank, Jason, Ray, Dave, David K, Ian, Neville, Anna, ADG, Lindsay, David M etc etc chose to add a picture of the same Qantas 737 taken on the same day at the same airport or a different one, so be it - each shot is different in it's own way. Sure it would bore a few people, but such is life. If it's rare, or an special schemes first visit to an airport - good luck to the person that get's it here first! Add as many nice shots of it as you like - people will look and admire not only the aircraft, but your work.

Each person that uploads here is proud of their work, if they weren't they would not upload here.

Quality/Quantity - what's wrong with both together? Really?

I use this site more times a day than I care to admit, each time new shots are added I look, each day I check the 24-48hr list - and surprisingly I ALWAYS find something I like and admire (excluding my own work!).

And, if this one didn't catch your eye - you missed one of the best shots I reckon live here! My opinion only, but at full size this shot is a RIPPER!


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Moving back to the original topic now. I'll use my recent trip to NZ with Frank as an example. Frank takes a picture, I stand beside him and take a picture, Glen Reid is beside me taking yet another picture. Each work is unique to the photographer. Should, in the future, any A.net photogs that hang together or go away on photography trips together decide as they are taking each set of shots who can upload what? I don't think so! And, if you have a digital camera and can upload some of the shots within hours or you get your prints back an hour later and upload them the same day - who cares!

Here's an example of what I believe you are talking about:-


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Both ARE the same, yet VERY different!

Just because there are not 400 new photos being added every day just now don't think that top notch photos aren't making there way onto this site, they are.

This is a very user orientated website. If the administrator/screeners like it, they add it. If not, you get a polite e-mail back telling you where to stick your shot!!! It's each persons right to submit any photo they feel fit to submit and the administrator has the final say (along with the screeners in some instances) as to what is accepted. If you don't like it, don't look at it. Different shots appeal to different people for very different reason. Some may find this ironic given my comments in the past, even I do. However this is my genuine belief. I love www.airliners.net, and I enjoy displaying my work here! I like side on shots, I like approach shots, I like head on shots, I like sunset shots, I like cockpit shots, I like rotation shots! As mentioned before, be grateful you aren't blind and cant see ANYTHING on this website, be grateful you aren't deaf and can't experience the sound of a jet engine, or a spitfire's RR Merlin during a high speed pass and last but not least be grateful you can talk so others can hear you and your thoughts - it makes for great discussion! I have a relative who was deaf, dumb and blind who wrote books, knitted and cooked - but never saw, heard or spoke like most of us can. We all should be happy just to have this site and be able to admire it.

I look forward to viewing anyone who reads this work for many years to come, even if your picture is similar to your best mates one that's uploaded 5 minutes later! Friendly competition, what's REALLY wrong with that?

I also look forward to reading this thread as it grows!

Kind Regards
Craig Murray


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RE: Adding Value To The Database...

Fri Dec 14, 2001 9:49 am

I will give Sven's TMA 707, Frank's 747 and construction equipment and Glen's QF '47 a big thumbs up!

Everything else, well nice but no show stoppers!

Thomas
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RE: Adding Value To The Database...

Fri Dec 14, 2001 10:07 am

Hi Dean..

I'm still a bit confused with your post.
You also have a digi-cam:
eg:

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I recall this shot was one of your digital examples. I'm surprised that most of your uploads since then have been scanned from slides.
(correct me if I'm wrong!).
So my question is. Why haven't you been trawling through your local airports and shooting local aircraft for uploading into A.net with your digi-cam? That would add vaule to the database, wouldn't it? And add to your shot-count. Willy waver!
You're blessed with many more varied airports in such a short travelling distance compared to the barren wilderness we endure up here in Caledonia. What's wrong with that?
Good luck.

I really feel sorry for Gary in ABZ....  Wink/being sarcastic

Cheers Dean...

Gerry/EDI
 
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RE: Adding Value To The Database...

Fri Dec 14, 2001 4:58 pm

Hi all

Decided to archive thread after a few recommendations.

Regards

Gary Watt
Aberdeen, Scotland

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