joe pries
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Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Sun Feb 17, 2002 11:03 pm

i thought this was a sort of artsy photo but it got rejected. problem is that in the rejection message (below) it could have been one of several problems and id like some opinions as to what so i can rescan and avoid the problem. thanks for any help. also would appreciate if someone can post the direct link- i dont remember what it is for pics that were rejected/in the que. thanks in advance.
=========================================
- gciva.jpg (British Airways Boeing 747-4...)

The image quality of these photos are low. This may be the result of
several
perceived problems happening simultaneously, such as grain, blur,
lighting,
contrast or color defects, which would lead us to believe that a fresh
scan
would be necessary, rather than a simple adjustment to the uploaded
file.

It could be caused by the scanner you are using, the way you scanned
your
photos, the (digital) camera, the light conditions when you shot the
photos,
object out of focus, improper photo manipulations or any combination
thereof. Most of the time, the cause is either a bad scanner or that
the
scanner wasn't used properly. If you think this might be the cause,
please
read the documentation for your scanner and find the best DPI and color
settings. Generally a higher DPI and color setting will make a higher
quality image but only to a certain degree and it differs between
different
brands of scanners. Try many different settings until you find the best
combination. If you are using an old or low quality scanner you might
consider investing in a new or borrow one from your
friend/workplace/school.
If you are using a digital camera, check camera settings.

A frequent source of this problem is when the photograph was taken
under
poor weather conditions without appropriate corrective measures (such
as
exposure). Note that making acceptable photographs in poor weather
conditions or at night is quite difficult, and you should perhaps try
to
achieve a good level of expertise and a few successful uploads of good
weather photographs before attempting much more difficult poor weather
photography.

If you think you have been able to improve the quality of the photos,
please re-upload them. Note that we are still very interested in
having these photos in our database, we only ask that you try to
improve
the quality of the digital version of your photos. You can find
examples
of photos with a high quality scanning in out "Editor's Choice"
section linked to from the front page of Airliners.net.
 
 
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Sun Feb 17, 2002 11:15 pm

Okay Joe your the pro here and Im just a very young novice but if that was my shot I'd up the contrast a little. It just looks a tad "flat".

Martin now turning off Know-it-all mode.  Smile

 
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Sun Feb 17, 2002 11:20 pm

Well, I've also pushed my 'I know it all'-button, and it seems to me the pictures is a little bit too dark.

That's all...

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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Mon Feb 18, 2002 1:38 am

'know it all mode on'.

There is alot of black on the underside, and this is very grainy, and it also looks a bit dark. Try increasing brightness/contrast and see if this helps.

'know it all mode off'.

Dan  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Mon Feb 18, 2002 2:07 am

Just each and every one of you who use the KNOW-IT-ALL mode remember that it was ME who invented it Big grin Big grin Big grin
 
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Mon Feb 18, 2002 2:22 am

"HeeEEeey, Joe, where are you goin' with that camera in your hand..." or something like that.

You must hate that joke by now.

I just played with it a little. Saturated the colors and pushed the reds a bit. But I couldn't do anything about the lack of detail in the shadows. I guess those are the K64 Blues.

Pretty shot though.


Charles
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Mon Feb 18, 2002 3:26 am

Oh, Joe has switched to Fuji ?  Nuts

Easy on the saturation Charles!  Wink/being sarcastic
/JM
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Mon Feb 18, 2002 3:42 am

Any more saturation and you would have a "Taperell Special" Big grin (jk)

LGW
 
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Mon Feb 18, 2002 3:56 am

Definitely the shadows area killed it.

The sun wasn't at your back. What I'd try if I was standing in that spot is a different kind of shot. Try an extreme closeup of the nose area. It might turn out brighter or more even. right now the sun flare on the tail is tricking your exposure.
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Mon Feb 18, 2002 4:13 am

thanks for all the assistance fellows. On the HPS20, shadows and dark spots are sometimes an issue. this shot was taken at 530pm 3 weeks ago- just as the sun was setting for the day. i'll eventually try to fix it and reupload. thanks again for all the help.

Joe
 
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Mon Feb 18, 2002 4:34 am

It is indeed an "artsy shot" and Charles fixed it up pretty good as far as I am concerned. Still kind of dark in the tone but overall a nice image.

Nevertheless pretty interesting that even Joe P. gets rejections............

Vasco
 
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Mon Feb 18, 2002 4:48 am

Vasco,
Theres no doubt about it the "minimums" have increased dramatically here and if it means i get a few rejected here or there- in order to have ainet a high quality site, im willing to tough it out- alot of guys i know are getting rejected left and right, some of em are getting very frustrated- but ya gotta roll with the punches i say

Joe
 
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Mon Feb 18, 2002 5:28 am

Tis a wonderful shot.  Big thumbs up

Joe,Have you tried Vuescan?
I find K64 to scan better using that program other than the default S20.

Bo
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joe pries
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Mon Feb 18, 2002 5:40 am

Hey Bo,
mclaughlin and borda keep talking about it but im just so comfy with the way i do the s20/photoshop combo now- its only the dark shadows that seem to be a problem, otherwise im ok with the way the scans are coming out for the most part.

Joe
 
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Mon Feb 18, 2002 5:40 am

Joe, why don't you upgrade to a more high quality scanner. I just purcahsed a Nikon coolscan 4000. It is still in the mail, but it produces real nice images.

Take a look at Charles Falk's photographs. Thats what the coolscan 4000 does. It does cost a bit more, but certainly worth the money.

Nice pic Joe, thought all your uploads get accepted, huh guess not.

-Dmitry
 
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Mon Feb 18, 2002 5:48 am

D,
as my S20 is aging, im looking into other options- the one i want is the nikon one that costs about 1400 bucks- its the LS2000 or something like that- i heard thats what all the field photogs use (or perhaps before digital but digital for me is not an option).
btw- my S20 has been through about 6500 scans- definetely has done an outstanding jobs for that amount of scans.

Joe
 
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Mon Feb 18, 2002 5:54 am

http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=sunnosun.jpg

ok while we're on the subject here's another one i got rejected too but at the very least its cool to share with all of you hardcore photogs who are in the photogforum- i wanted to share the frustration of setting up for a shot while the clouds hose you and meanwhile another airplane you already shot is basking in glowing sunshine. Now personally, this kind of shot perhaps should be uploaded as it is an illustration shot rather than a one airplane shot- but as always, I obey the law of the land and will not upload these types anymore, just my usual side shots or action shots.

---------------------------------------------------

The following photos were rejected:
(Please read more below)

- sunnosun.jpg (USAir Boeing 757-200)

The image quality of these photos are low. This may be the result of
several
perceived problems happening simultaneously, such as grain, blur,
lighting,
contrast or color defects, which would lead us to believe that a fresh
scan
would be necessary, rather than a simple adjustment to the uploaded
file.

It could be caused by the scanner you are using, the way you scanned
your
photos, the (digital) camera, the light conditions when you shot the
photos,
object out of focus, improper photo manipulations or any combination
thereof. Most of the time, the cause is either a bad scanner or that
the
scanner wasn't used properly. If you think this might be the cause,
please
read the documentation for your scanner and find the best DPI and color
settings. Generally a higher DPI and color setting will make a higher
quality image but only to a certain degree and it differs between
different
brands of scanners. Try many different settings until you find the best
combination. If you are using an old or low quality scanner you might
consider investing in a new or borrow one from your
friend/workplace/school.
If you are using a digital camera, check camera settings.

A frequent source of this problem is when the photograph was taken
under
poor weather conditions without appropriate corrective measures (such
as
exposure). Note that making acceptable photographs in poor weather
conditions or at night is quite difficult, and you should perhaps try
to
achieve a good level of expertise and a few successful uploads of good
weather photographs before attempting much more difficult poor weather
photography.

If you think you have been able to improve the quality of the photos,
please re-upload them. Note that we are still very interested in
having these photos in our database, we only ask that you try to
improve
the quality of the digital version of your photos. You can find
examples
of photos with a high quality scanning in out "Editor's Choice"
section linked to from the front page of Airliners.net.

These photos appear to have been either overexposed (too bright) or
underexposed (too dark) please change the settings on your scanner or
use a
photo manipulating tool to adjust the brightness of the photos. If you
think you have been able to improve the quality of the photos, please
re-upload them. Note that we are still very interested in having these
photos in our database, we only ask that you try to improve the quality
of the digital version of your photos.



 
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Mon Feb 18, 2002 6:50 am

Hi!
Looking at the picture I think its not exactly leveld. Just the first pole on the left side. It doesnt seem vertical to me. And theres dust on the slide. Where. In the clouds just straight above the little US flag close to the registration of the US A321. Or are this crows? The excuse my comment.
Peter
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Mon Feb 18, 2002 7:08 am

Hi Peter,
i think this is the kind of stuff thats getting people very upset around here- the leveling on the us/ar shot is fine- it may be off .005 or something but its not drastic by any means- certainly i dont think enough for a reject. You definetely lost me on the dust- i dont see it at all and even if it is there- i think that if we're rejecting on those grounds also then we're losing touch with reality on airliners.net -i have a feeling its something other than that also- i am terrified to think that part of the rejection is dust- if thats the case then we're in trouble.

Joe
 
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Mon Feb 18, 2002 8:01 am

What comes to mind is: What is the subject? The USAir is closer, but is in shadow. The Argentinian is lit up but far away, and is behind a pole. Uninterupted tarmac takes up a full 50% of the picture.

I guess what I am saying is that what you were trying to do with this shot is not easily apparent.

Also, shooting a US Airways jet in shadow is like trying to photograph a polar bear in a blizzard.

Cheers,

Charles
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Mon Feb 18, 2002 10:10 am

Yeah the shadow killed it, if only the USAir 757 had sun on it... I shot about 6 rolls of K64 down there in MIA in about a day and a half, only uploaded 31. I had several awsome shots, but the clouds rolled in at the wrong time, I'm not going to bother trying to get them on here.
 
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Mon Feb 18, 2002 10:17 am

What Joe was trying to "say" in this photo is how difficult airliner shooting really is sometimes. You're looking to shoot something hot or just something you need (ok, maybe not a US 757 but I could probably use the reg.) It shows you that you can be in the right place but not always have something on your side. Just a few hundred feet away the AR 747 is basking in the sun for a perfect shot but the item you're looking to shoot is not. It would be a good shot for a "how to" or "starters guide" but guess not for mainstream a.net.

Joe showed me the slide last night and the 1st thing i thought of was those people who say 50mm side-on shots are so easy to get don't know what they're talking about...yeah, when the 1000 things that can go wrong don't go wrong, maybe it's easy but as you can tell with this shot...well, Murphy has a way of screwing up pretty much everything. Bill Hough knows "Murphy" all too well.

Michael
 
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Mon Feb 18, 2002 10:18 am

Hi guys

Uploaded 34, got 32 accepted overnight last week

check the 2 they rejected, (is sort of blurr and I thought those are pretty cool shot, but nothing special)

http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=BKKAYM11.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=NRTCOMAX777.jpg

Shots on 80-400mm VR, no cropping, as full frame as it is on my real slide. No alternation done except dust touch up using rubber stamp and slightly color balance (avoid too blue or green)

I will sharpen them and resubmit. I am using S20/Photoshop combo as well, normally is very good with airliners.net.

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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Mon Feb 18, 2002 1:29 pm

Joe get the Nikon coolscan 4000, you can get a super good deal on ebay, and brand new also. I bought the coolscan 4000 for $1360, good price.

-Dmitry
 
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Mon Feb 18, 2002 2:20 pm

Joe:
I was looking at this picture having my usual rejection reasons in mind (well except the dust, which doent happen to me Big grin) and those where the only reasons I could think of and from my experience the screeners can be very hard on "unleveled" shots sometimes  Sad
But I think Charles had a good point also with the tarmac argument.
Peter
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Mon Feb 18, 2002 2:39 pm

Peter,
i was trying to illustrate exactly what mike mclaughlin was saying- like i said, im gonna keep my uploads to things i know will not get rejected going forward like the regular action and ramp shots on sunny days- my scanner cant handle the artsy stuff.

Joe
 
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Mon Feb 18, 2002 10:33 pm

I like seeing all the reject shots, they are very interesting  Big thumbs up
 
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Mon Feb 18, 2002 10:41 pm

I never wanted a 747 to land on me more in my life.  Smile

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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Tue Feb 19, 2002 6:15 am

Joe: the 2 planes shot is a perfect illustration of Murphy's Law (and shooting approaches at LHR today with "scattered cloud" means I'm well familiar with it - cloud drifting across sun perfectly synchronised with interesting aircraft pssing across your field of view), but I think the quality of the scan leaves a little to be desired. I definitely think you are one person who would really benefit from a scanner upgrade (I'm sure your originals are outstanding, but your scanner seems to struggle with the more "difficult" shots). I don't think the angle needs any adjustment - that "Unmuth" bloke's head must be lopsided!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Sam, you're right, a bit a of judicious sharpening will greatly improve both pics, but a couple of comments occur to me: Finnair - I would rotate this to the left by a degree or so; I can't get over the feeling the whole pic is leaning to the right. Peter Max - maybe it's just me, but the colours don't seem quite right (is it just me? That doesn't look like Continental blue on the tail - or maybe it was the light?)  Smile
 
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Tue Feb 19, 2002 6:38 am

yeah you're 100% right Chris- i need to upgrade the scanner cause ive got a boatload of very interesting shots that with the current scanner im not even gonna waste my time trying to upload after the last two rejections. There goes another 1500 bucks- this hobby requires a second job  Smile

Joe
 
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Tue Feb 19, 2002 7:48 am

Can I just ask a simple question here ? Is there really justification on spending 1500 bucks on a scanner, just for uplaoding to here ? I mean most of us get along fine with nothing over $800. I mean I bought a Minolta Dimage Scan Dual II for IR£490 last year and I get pretty good results out of it with reasonable shadow detail

Just two examples where I think shadow detail was picked up decently enough


Click for large version
Click here for full size photo!

Photo © Martin O'Connell



Click for large version
Click here for full size photo!

Photo © Martin O'Connell



Just something to think about

Cheers,
Martin
 
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Tue Feb 19, 2002 7:57 am

I've had alot of problems scanning K64 slides, they don't come out as well as Fuji when scanned. The main problem is that the dark areas are very noisy, not sure how to get around it though.. any suggestions??
 
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Tue Feb 19, 2002 8:01 am

Martin,
for me its more than that- i do consulting work for several companies and they require prints at times so the 2400dpi is ok on the S20 but i'd like a more powerful unit to make even better prints when the need arises.

Joe
 
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Tue Feb 19, 2002 10:23 am

Ok, now it's getting out of control. Just got a photo rejected for:

"Michael, look at this scan from a distance. There is a white horizontal band through the middle of the pic."

Well, I looked at the actual slide to make sure and yup! it's on the slide and a few other slides taken at the same time. It's a contrail far in the distance from a plane either flying downwind for arrival at JFK or just flying North-South.

So, I guess now you have to remove clouds in photo as well?

Hmmmm, what should I do..remove it (contrail) and reupload it or leave it as the original scene was taken and just accept the rejection?

Here's the photo:
http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=n803am_jfkmm.jpg

Michael
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Tue Feb 19, 2002 10:42 am

Michael, I processed that pic and it's the first of yours I have ever rejected. The white line looked just too perfect (horizontal) to be a contrail, in lieu of a scanning defect. There have been cases where photogs actually had scanner hardware problems and they were happy to hear the input in advance.

Re-upload it and I will make sure NEVER to reject any of yours again. I'll just add you to my list of those photogs never to reject again in the future, NEVER, EVER...

1:44 elapsed time from actual rejection to forum post, not bad but I have seen faster.
 
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Tue Feb 19, 2002 10:51 am

Add me to that list while you're at it please  Big thumbs up

 
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Tue Feb 19, 2002 11:32 am

Hey Mike, funny I was standing next to you but didn't have that problem. Maybe you should try digital.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy Err...

(praying this won't show up as a red X)


-Leigh
 
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Tue Feb 19, 2002 11:59 am

Actually, Leigh. I do see a bit of that contrail in your AA 757 shot but maybe not. Not all of the slides from that day show the contrail, cause I'm assuming it disappear quickly after since it was pretty far in the distance. Digitital IS something I'm planning on getting in the future but mainly for family shots. Of course, a few airliners might get snapped up here-and-there  Smile

Screener 5...that's better. Don't ever ever do that again. You hear me!!!  Smile  Smile Hey, I deserve to be rejected just as much as anyone else as long as it's a rejectable photo..I have no problem with that.

1:44...damn, I'm getting old. I promise to do it quicker next time.

Michael
 
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Tue Feb 19, 2002 12:10 pm

Mike, yeah I know it's there. Just messin around... But the AA was taken about 30 minutes before AeroMexico showed up. So I guess it was around for a while.  Smile
 
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Tue Feb 19, 2002 12:29 pm

How did she got rejected?? Really nice baby!!

Anyway I see the contrail on AM´s picture, but also for the AA 757 contrail is a bit visible!

Nice shoots both!

P.S. Screener 5, can I be added to that list to ha?  Big thumbs up

Ricardo  Smile APM

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White Horizontal Band...

Tue Feb 19, 2002 2:50 pm

um- can a measly guy like me speak?

hummm - ( coughing ) and a little nervous...

I think I see a "white horizontal band" of light kinda fusing together the aft thirteen windows of the photo in question.

I hope I am not the only one to see this...

Is someone else previously made this observation -
( still nervous and coughing ) - I am sorry. I meant nothing bad by it...





 
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Mikephotos Photo That Is...

Tue Feb 19, 2002 2:53 pm

was speaking of the photo posted by Mike...
 
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Tue Feb 19, 2002 4:01 pm

Yes PLANEBOY, that's called "SUN-GLARE"...  Insane

-Rob
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Wed Feb 20, 2002 12:34 am

Hey..rather have a bit of sunglare than shoot in cloudy weather  Smile

Never heard sunglare called "White Horizontal Band" Is that a new rock group?

Michael
Memeber - White Horizontal Band  Smile

 
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Wed Feb 20, 2002 12:54 am

First glance you can see it's a contrail. But hey, we all make mistakes...

JC
(still laughing over the white horizontal band)
 
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RE: Need Help With Why Photo Was Rejected

Wed Feb 20, 2002 5:35 am

looks very 'impure' for a horizontal white band, but as Justin said, we all make mistakes!!!

I like sunglare on pictures, and reflections. Add character to the picture!

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