xenon
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I Thought This Was A Good One...

Tue Feb 19, 2002 10:07 pm

Hi,

Question: is this sutch a bad photo?
I thought is was a special "angle" and "backlight" for
shooting in BRU?

Thx for youre comments!

Daniel

http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=P2100089.jpg
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RE: I Thought This Was A Good One...

Tue Feb 19, 2002 10:17 pm

Nice picture, but I believe Johan has mentioned something about those angles. I don't know if that applies for this particular picture though.

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xenon
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RE: I Thought This Was A Good One...

Tue Feb 19, 2002 10:24 pm

The photo was rejected because the light.
(overexposed or underexposed)
Do you think something can be done that this
picture helps to get accepted?

Thx

Daniel
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RE: I Thought This Was A Good One...

Tue Feb 19, 2002 10:34 pm

Hmmm, can't be an easy job, but someone might have advice on how to improve it.

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RE: I Thought This Was A Good One...

Tue Feb 19, 2002 11:40 pm

I'm not sure there is much you can do to this one. It is a touch over-sharpened (notice the bright outline around the entire aircraft), but that won't solve everything.

When you back light a shot, you have to have good reason for it (eg, a beautiful sunset or incredible backdrop). In this case, you only have a cloudy sky and cluttered backdrop to deal with.

The angle itself isn't bad. It's the dull conditions which killed this shot. Anyway...try this shot again looking into a bright orange sunset, and you'll have a monster image. Keep at it!

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RE: I Thought This Was A Good One...

Wed Feb 20, 2002 12:38 am

I agree with whats already been said. Main problem is the back lighting - will always make it dark and you can't really correct that im afraid.

How are you getting on with you 2100 Daniel?

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RE: I Thought This Was A Good One...

Wed Feb 20, 2002 12:38 am

I didn't want to start another thread, but I have a question about these unique or different shots. Now I'll be the first to admit that these arent the highest quality shots. But here's what happened. I was taking some shots at EWR and a small fire broke out about 3/4 mile west of the airport. The wind from the west was blowing the smoke over the airport. The fire was out by the time I got there to check it out, but I still got some shots.

I don't really care whether these make it into the database or not, just wondering what you guys think. It's not the kind of thing you see every day. Both were rejected for the aircraft being too far away. Of course, if I zoomed in, you wouldn't really be able to see the smoke.

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Thanks

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RE: I Thought This Was A Good One...

Wed Feb 20, 2002 1:04 am

LGW:

I do my best with teh C2100 but i'll think the best
shots are made with static objects.
For moving objects enough light is a must!

Happy shooting!

Daniel
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RE: I Thought This Was A Good One...

Wed Feb 20, 2002 1:06 am

Alright, been said before but here is my view... The backlit subject isn't the main problem, I assume that you are using center weighted averaging for the exposure, and so the camera exposed the sky perfectly but the aircraft remained dark. If the C2100 has Spot metering, use that when the a/c is backlit, and it should improve your shots, also as said before its not the most pleasing of angles, and sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

Regards

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RE: I Thought This Was A Good One...

Wed Feb 20, 2002 1:12 am

Also overexposing the photo with .5 to 1 stop would probably make it look better too.

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RE: I Thought This Was A Good One...

Wed Feb 20, 2002 4:52 am

Am I right in saying for backlit subjects you should overexpose +1 stop to correctly expose your subject?

If you do overexpose just make sure that the sky doesn't appear wahed out, that is a very unpleasing effect

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RE: I Thought This Was A Good One...

Wed Feb 20, 2002 5:30 am

I normally overexpose by 1 stop, but i've only taken one backlit shot so far, and that was taken with spot metering which helped alot.
 
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RE: I Thought This Was A Good One...

Wed Feb 20, 2002 7:47 am

There's not really a hard and fast rule on backlit subjects. It really depends on your meter and how much the camera is allowing for the backlit scene.

A good way to get a reasonable exposure is to find some neutral coloured object [say a car / billboard etc. Grass and walls can be quite good as well] that's at the same angle to the sun as the aircraft will be. Take an exposure reading off that and then use the manual mode on the camera to take the shot at that exposure.

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