mirrodie
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Using A Lens Like Quantaray's 500mm

Thu Mar 28, 2002 8:40 am

I was hoping to shoot planes at LGA once the weather gets nice but before I buy a lens, I want to try a few zooms out.

I have a 70-200 but will be renting one or two zoom lenses from the neighborhood shop. Any suggestions or comments? I just threw in the one above to also get your opinions.

Thanks.
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RE: Using A Lens Like Quantaray's 500mm

Thu Mar 28, 2002 9:13 am

In my experience, handling long teles takes a bit of practice. Certainly my first outings with 500 or 600 lens produced disappointing results (camera shake, poor focus). Unless you've used this class of lens before I'd play it safe and look for something a bit more managable - I think a good 400mm might get better results.

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RE: Using A Lens Like Quantaray's 500mm

Thu Mar 28, 2002 10:13 am

Handholding any lens beyond 300-400mm+ will almost always require using a monopod/tripod, unless you are using an IS/VR lens or a high-speed film (800 ISO or higher). The combination of the lens size and extreme focal length causes quite an excess of camera shake...Even if you have the steadiest hands in the world, 500mm will make it seem like you have the shakiest.  Smile


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RE: Using A Lens Like Quantaray's 500mm

Thu Mar 28, 2002 12:39 pm

I use a Quantaray 70-300mm lens. They don't have Sigma at Ritzcamera so I had that one. It's nice and it's easy to use. I don't use one hand, all the time I use two hands to hold it just to have a steady picture and I have good hands too so that makes it a little easier. What camera do you use mirrodie? If you have a lens that's past 300mm buy a tripod and that will help you but if you have good steady hands that might get you a good picture of a plane taking off or in the sky or any other picture where you don't need the tripod for.
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RE: Using A Lens Like Quantaray's 500mm

Thu Mar 28, 2002 12:53 pm

I currently have a Nikon 70-300 f4/5.6. I am not impressed at all (quality wise)! I am suppossed to get my 80-200 f2.8 and 1.4x converter today, that will give me great shots and in focus!

The 70-300 gives me out-of focus shots unfortunately.  Sad I would consider the 80-400 VR though  Smile

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RE: Using A Lens Like Quantaray's 500mm

Thu Mar 28, 2002 8:56 pm

If you get shots that are out of focus my guess is that there's something wrong with the camerabody and not with the lense.

 
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RE: Using A Lens Like Quantaray's 500mm

Fri Mar 29, 2002 2:48 am

I use a tripod which I why I wanted a higher focal length. I'd have good results with the tripod using a 200mm and doing 30 seconds exposures at night.

I'm not a total newbie though my experience is limited.

What's the difference b/w using a 400 or 500 lens vs one of those "mirror lenses"?

Thanks.

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RE: Using A Lens Like Quantaray's 500mm

Fri Mar 29, 2002 6:50 am

BIG difference in size and weight ... but don't let it fool you - mirrors are just as prone to camera shake!

You've got no aperture control on a mirror - typically it'll be fixed to f5.6 or f8 - so exposure control is only via shutter speed. Depth of field is very restricted. Quality is not as good as a quality tele, but quite acceptable (except perhaps at the edges).

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Thu Apr 04, 2002 6:34 am

Dmitry,
I use the Nikkor 70-300 f4-5.6 ED and I find the results are great. I think it has to do with photographic skill rather than lens quality if you are constantly getting out of focus shots. Keep working hard on your photography and you will get good results. You can't just pick up a camera and expect wonderful shots from it after only a few rolls of film. I find that my lens is very suitable for aviation photography and the lens certainly rewarded me with almost 800 perfect frames on my recent spotting trip to Brazil.

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RE: Using A Lens Like Quantaray's 500mm

Thu Apr 04, 2002 9:27 am

SO bottom line is that I should get a good zoom? RIght now I have an 80-200 for my canon reber 2K.

What would you suggest? Thanks
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RE: Using A Lens Like Quantaray's 500mm

Thu Apr 04, 2002 1:09 pm

Dmitry,
The 70-300 f4/5.6 ED works nicely for me. The shot below was taken with an F100 on Provia 100F, and I certainly don't see any quality problems image-wise.

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Advice To Mirrodie

Mon Apr 08, 2002 6:21 am

If I were you, I'd hold out for the Canon 70-200 f 2.8 lense. They now have on that has IS (image stabilization) which would be great for airline shots. I have Canon gear, 1 EOS 1VHS, 2 630's and only use Canon lenses. Others on this board will tell you that after-market lenses such as Sigma, Tamron, Tokina, and Quantaray are good, but in my personal opinion, don't listen to them. Only buy Canon lenses!! They are made exclusively for Canon cameras. Others may flame me on my opinion, but oh well, I've got thick skin. I had a Tamron 200-400mm and hated it! Sold it within a week. Your camera body (The Rebel) is only a light box, spend your money on lenses !!

Yes, I have a top of the line and very expensive EOS 1VHS, but it still is only a light box.......my Canon 630's take just as quality photos as the 1VHS, but the 1VHS has more frames per second, more focusing points, etc....

Good luck !

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