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The Equipment You Started With?

Sun Apr 14, 2002 2:10 pm

Hello my friends!

What was the very first equipment you started with? I have heard lots of you saying "this shot was taken with my old equipment" well let's hear it. I know there are guys have been aviation photogaphers since the 70 's - 80's. I am sure everybody would be interested to hear what was used back then.

I don't think I have to list all my humble equipment again, if anybody doesn't know just ask.

-Dmitry
 
Vez
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RE: The Equipment You Started With?

Sun Apr 14, 2002 2:44 pm

Anybody knows what a Zenit is? Haha! That's what I started with. An old russian reflex. The metering was'nt even TTL, and to read the light meter I had to look on top of the camera. The meter was not in the viewfinder!

But don't worry, I did not upload photos on a.net that were taken with this crap. The lens had way too much chromatic abberation. Everything was glowing with a red contour...

God I like my new camera!

Mart
 
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RE: The Equipment You Started With?

Sun Apr 14, 2002 3:11 pm

You really want to know?

My first "serious" camera was a late 50's Kodak Retina IIIc, which was a very fine camera for it's time, with integrated light meter. I had 3 prime lenses, a 35mm f/3.5, 50mm f/2.0, and a 80mm f/5.6.

Completely manual of course, I made some fantastic shots with that camera, because it forces you to think everything through before you take the shot. We get lazy with automatic modes.

Charles
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Skymonster
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RE: The Equipment You Started With?

Sun Apr 14, 2002 4:18 pm

Now we'll see who the "real" photographers are, and who are the young upstarts who've never had to use a proper camera!!!  Big grin Auto-exposure, what's that???

I started with a Praktica MTL-3 - good old fashioned camera with screw mount lenses and match needle metering. Everything set manually, much like Mart's Zenit (I nearly went for a Zenit, but decided to spend a grand total of £49 on something more up market - I think the Zenit was £35 at the time!). I had a 50mm lens with the camera, and bought a 200mm telephoto that had about as good resolving power as sticking a milk bottle on the front of the camera.

However, this set up did allow me to start shooting K64, and some of the results (some, but not many) are airliners.net standard. Maybe I'll upload a few from the old days!

Andy
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RE: The Equipment You Started With?

Sun Apr 14, 2002 4:35 pm

I started out with an old Kodak 110 format camera in the late 1970s/early 1980s. The camera was several years old at the time. http://user.itl.net/~kypfer/110/ek100.htm either this type or one very similar to it
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RE: The Equipment You Started With?

Sun Apr 14, 2002 4:49 pm

I started with a Pentax ME SLR with an 80-200mm MF lens. Upgraded two years later to a Canon EOS 3000 wiht a 35-50mm lens / 75-200mm lens / 75-300mm lens and a 2x converter and now looking to uplgrage my slr or lenses again

its a brilliant yet costly hobby!

LGW
 
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RE: The Equipment You Started With?

Sun Apr 14, 2002 7:05 pm

I started with a Pentax Spotmatic with a 28mm f/2.8, a 50mm f/1.4 and a 28-200 f/3.5-5.3. It has a lightmeter, but that's it... the rest is fully manual. Great camera to learn with.

Staffan
 
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RE: The Equipment You Started With?

Sun Apr 14, 2002 7:21 pm

I started with a Kodak DC240 digital two years ago.
I then moved up to a Canon Pro 90 digital.
I have now upgraded to Canon EOS 30 (35mm) and 'L' glass.

Newbie? me? Stop laughing guys......

Craig.
 
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RE: The Equipment You Started With?

Sun Apr 14, 2002 8:00 pm

Craig, what film/scanner you using?

LGW
 
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RE: The Equipment You Started With?

Sun Apr 14, 2002 8:37 pm

Body:
Canon A-1
Mostly used lenses:
Canon FD 100-300mm f/5.6
Canon FD 200mm f/2.8

Now borrowing:
Nikon F100
Nikkor 80-200mm f/2.8 AF-S

Planning to buy a gear of my own in a few years.

Alexander
 
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RE: The Equipment You Started With?

Sun Apr 14, 2002 8:58 pm

I started with a Canon AE-1, with a fixed 50/1,3 lens, Vivitar 70-210/3,5 zoom lens and Tokina 300/5,6 lens...
...I bought a used Canon 70-210/4 zoom last year, elsewhere it's the same equipment for more than 20 years now (well, since -79...).
This camera has some auto functions, but I always use it in the manual mode...
...and I will not judge the quality of the photos myself...

Canon AE-1 + Vivitar 70-210/3,5:

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Photo © Johan Ljungdahl


Canon AE-1 + Tokina 300/5,6:

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Photo © Johan Ljungdahl


Canon AE-1 + Vivitar 70-210/3,5:

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Photo © Johan Ljungdahl


Canon AE-1 + Tokina 300/5,6:

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Photo © Johan Ljungdahl


Canon AE-1 + Vivitar 70-210/3,5:

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Photo © Johan Ljungdahl


Canon AE-1 + Tokina 300/5,6:

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Photo © Johan Ljungdahl


...etcetera, etcetera...
This camera, in my opinion, is almost unbreakable, and when/if it breaks, I'll find an other one...

"Who needs autofocus, anyway?" /Johan  Big thumbs up
 
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RE: The Equipment You Started With?

Sun Apr 14, 2002 9:07 pm

I started with nothing, got a lot, ended up married and now have nothing again. My wife has claimed it all

 Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Seriously, I started with a Chinon M4 I think it was with a Vivitar 200mm lense. I thought it was shit hot but looking back on the results, I think not.

Now I run a Fuji S1 about to be upgraded to a Fuji S2 with the S1 as back up (remember the wifey thing, well she wants a toy to play with) and I also have a Nikon F401/501 and 801 as well as a mamiya C330 and Bronica ETRs

lenses well that would take for ever to tell. In fact I don't even think I know how many, they are all over the place but I range from 17mm up to 500mm
 
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RE: The Equipment You Started With?

Sun Apr 14, 2002 9:20 pm

Ben,

Canon FS400US.

I haven't uploaded anything from it yet - I want to practice more first, althoigh I have a stunning scan from a friend's slide, so I know its capability.

Craig.
 
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RE: The Equipment You Started With?

Mon Apr 15, 2002 12:05 am

A Canon IXUS APS compact camera and a cheap HP flatbed scanner. My equipment has improved since then...
 
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RE: The Equipment You Started With?

Mon Apr 15, 2002 1:51 am

It sure is amazing to hear what you guys started out with! WIsh I started a bit earlier!

-Dmitry
 
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RE: The Equipment You Started With?

Mon Apr 15, 2002 2:23 am

Hey, I found a picture of my first "serious" camera, the Retina IIIc.



I think I have the oldest one so far... It was a terrific camera, quality-wise.

Charles
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RE: The Equipment You Started With?

Mon Apr 15, 2002 2:25 am

BTW, I love your photos from Athens Johan!! Are you interested in selling slides?
 
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RE: The Equipment You Started With?

Mon Apr 15, 2002 2:53 am

I started out with a EOS 300 with a EF28-90mm f/5.6 and a EF75-300mm f/4.0-5.6 USM Mk III, and I am still using this equipment. For the future I see a digital reflex. Either a used EOS D30 or a D60.

Wietse
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RE: The Equipment You Started With?

Mon Apr 15, 2002 3:24 am

Thank you, Paris!
It's always nice to hear that people like my photos, but unfortunately I don't trade/swap slides, but you might see some more photos here on airliners.net in the future, I think there still some I've not uploaded yet... Big grin

Johan
 
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RE: The Equipment You Started With?

Mon Apr 15, 2002 6:23 am

First real camera was a 2nd hand Petriflex V SLR - no I'd never heard of them either - all manual of course and a hand held light meter. Anyway it got me hooked and I blew most of a summer job on the Canon AT-1 a year later ... at the time I thought it the ultimate camera (aside from the pro stuff). Over the next many years, I guess I've owned or used pretty much any SLR Canon produced ...

original F1 ... still have it, built like a tank and 100% reliable

AE-1 - OK, but centerweighted metering with AE just didn't work for me

A1 - a technical marvel at the time but far too complex ... I was forever flicking the wrong switch

T - series, pretty much all dogs IMHO except for the magnificent T90 - possibly the finest manual focus camera ever produced, note that most of the ergonomic features of modern cameras were pioneered on the T90.

Finally last year I bowed to the inevitable and went AF with the EOS3 ... and then when one further with the D60.

Cheers,

Colin
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RE: The Equipment You Started With?

Tue Apr 16, 2002 7:42 pm

Ok, this will put me right out of the bell curve, but here goes:

My first camera was an Ansco box camera. These things were common in the 1950s, and I think they used 620-size film. It had a shutter that was fixed at approx. 1/60 sec., and I think the aperture was fixed also. As a fidgety ten-year old I didn't get too many good pictures. My brother and I got together and bought an Agfa Record 120 camera that was pretty ancient when we got it in 1958, but at least it had a variable shutter (1/200-sec max) and aperture. Some of the older B&W I have posted here were from this camera.

I forayed into 35mm with the purchase ($18.95) of a Sears and Roebuck Tower rangefinder in 1962. About 4 years later, while in the Air Force I bought a Petri 7s rangefinder. In 1968 I bought a Minolta SRT-101, and have been with that brand ever since. My two "working" cameras, since 1985, have been Minolta
X-370s, though I have a few older cameras by that manufacturer that are quite usable.

All the stuff I use today is manual focus, dated technology. My "workhorse" lens is a Vivitar 80-200mm f3.5. I have many, many other lenses, but use this one the most for airliner photography. I like it because I can (if I'm careful) take a shot through a chain-link fence, because the lens barrel is small enough to accomplish this. This is a very important feature for me, because I really think getting up on a ladder to take pictures at most US airports will get you into trouble.

I considered upgrading to Nikon several times over the years, but never could feel comfortable with the idea of trading all these camera bodies and lenses in for a different system. I think it is like buying an automobile. The salesman wants to get your old car for free, while getting you to pay retail for the new one. That's his job. Well, his twin brother works at the camera shop. As I do not do photography as my primary source of income, I simply never could justify handing all my old equipment to the guy behind the counter, and walking away with perhaps one new SLR and one or two lenses.

It seems to me that most of today's cameras, while they may have capabilities well beyond my old equipment, are computers that happen to have lenses attached. Most of the people I know that have these newer cameras spent much of the break-in period trying to figure out how to get the thing to do what they were used to doing with a camera, while not letting all the bells and whistles get in the way. I looked at a Sony F707 recently. I estimate that I would only use about 20% of the features that come with the thing. This, coupled with my desire to shoot memory-hungry raw TIFF format, caused me not to get too serious about it. Think I might put the money into a film scanner instead. I have enough slides and negs to keep me uploading for years.
 
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RE: The Equipment You Started With?

Wed Apr 17, 2002 9:03 am

Thanks for all the replys guys, sure was interesting.

-Dmitry
 
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RE: The Equipment You Started With?

Wed Apr 17, 2002 12:56 pm

Well, my first camera was given to me in 1996, it was a Zenit. It was decent for your usual shots, but not for aviation photography. Everything was manual, the shot had to be prepared in advance. I took it to DEN at one point, and a 747 looked like a fly with winglets.

Then one time my dad was like - there's a Pentax sale at Mike's Camera, go get something decent. So I went and got me a Pentax ZX-50 with 28-80 lens. Later on I bought a Tamron 75-300 lens which I am using now.

I tried uploading to A.net, but it didn't work for quality reasons. Therefore, I will be upgrading to a Sony DSCF-707 in the foreseeable future, and maybe I'll get lucky enough to get a few shots accepted on this site.

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RE: The Equipment You Started With?

Wed Apr 17, 2002 1:29 pm

A Yaschica (sp?) handheld point and shoot camera with a very limited zoom... 70mm or so I believe.

Now I'm using a Pentax ZX-30 with only a 28-80mm lens. I have gotten 14 photos accepted with it, sadly, 8 of them have been window/wing shots though  Sad. Oh well, I'll keep at it. Someday I'll upgrade when I can afford it....

...Serge

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