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Everything For Views?

Sun May 26, 2002 9:18 pm

I find it funny when reading the remarks of some photographers, how creative they can be. Some remarks refer to the nth window where someone is looking outside, or some screw with a different color or that little cloud perfectly ligned up with the tail fin or the little bird flying close to the plane or any little detail that is called for attention just to make people open the photo (hit hit hit).

What the competition for views can do to people...

Luis
 
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RE: Everything For Views?

Sun May 26, 2002 9:26 pm

I noticed that in a comment a few days ago. There was one of the front of a 747 and it said something about the guy looking out the window. I opened it up and couldn't see anybody  Confused I don't really care about views though, so people can do that if it is important to them.
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RE: Everything For Views?

Sun May 26, 2002 9:36 pm

A good "story", or pointing something "different" out, will often generate extra hits - its something you get to realise if you study the "most popular" pictures on a regular basis. Of course, the photographs have to be good in the first place too, which almost always they are. In my opinion some photographers are good at doing this stuff, and their hit rates are higher as a result.
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RE: Everything For Views?

Sun May 26, 2002 11:14 pm

What wrong with a little competition?  Smokin cool
 
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RE: Everything For Views?

Sun May 26, 2002 11:20 pm

Luis,

I've noted that same thing happening. Remarks like those you said are written just to get people click their photos. I still don't get it... What's so important on how many hits your photos have?

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RE: Everything For Views?

Sun May 26, 2002 11:51 pm

I just read the comments and think how inventive or what imaginative minds we have here, and the tricks used to make people open the photo, just this.

Luis
 
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RE: Everything For Views?

Sun May 26, 2002 11:59 pm

I read them and think how boring it would be if nobody put anything at all in the comment field Big grin


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RE: Everything For Views?

Mon May 27, 2002 1:03 am

I think captions should be encouraged, actually. Even if there's nothing particularly exceptional about the photo, it can be interesting to learn some additional information, for example, the destination of the departing aircraft, the time of day of the photograph, or something about the history of the aircraft photographed.
 
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RE: Everything For Views?

Mon May 27, 2002 1:57 am

Ummm, I'd hate to have a photograph that sucked but I pointed something out that was supposed to be there, and loads of people viewed it.

I'm more worried about the amount of posting on the forums of photographs even when its 100% unnecassary.

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RE: Everything For Views?

Mon May 27, 2002 4:20 am

I really worry about the starting of pointless threads that are just complaints for no particular reason, except that the person probably has nothing better to do than criticise Big grin

Oh by the way, I often make comments just like the one pointed out (maybe it was me!!!! WOW  Smile/happy/getting dizzy )..........but it isn't just for hits. I have a feeling my hit rate is acceptable enough as it is! I do it as Kingwide and Lindy Field have mentioned, to add colour and flavour to a photo.

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RE: Everything For Views?

Mon May 27, 2002 4:28 am

Oh and forgot to add, fat lot of good it did me...............200 hits!! Big grin

(Place where particular photo should be, but that would be too much for some people!)

Andrew

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RE: Everything For Views?

Mon May 27, 2002 4:36 am

I add a comment sometimes because otherwise its quite lifeless  Smile
 
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RE: Everything For Views?

Mon May 27, 2002 4:56 am

Andrew, do you know what is freedom of speech? do you know what a forum is for?

In democracy I can talk about whatever I want since I don't offend anyone and don't break any law.

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RE: Everything For Views?

Mon May 27, 2002 5:05 am

Hi Luis,

Following your thoughts, I can say what I want in the comment fields. Thank you.

Oh yes, I must say I did enjoy this photo which you just posted:


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I REALLY enjoyed the comment in the photo....."This plane brings fish from Mauritania to Portugal. Now it also brings a special passenger who is looking through the window."

And I just had to open it to see the person. Two dimensional, seems I have had to deal with that quite a bit lately.

Hope this post gets your shot a lot of hits......... Big grin

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RE: Everything For Views?

Mon May 27, 2002 5:12 am

I do not see adding pictures to A.net as a competition. I like to share my pictures with other people, and do not consider myself a better photographer when a shots gets, for example, 1000 hits.

When I make a comment, it is always about something special in a slide that I notice when I look at them for the first time. I think it is a great way to add atmosphere and information that would go unnoticed when just looking at the thumbnail. Most of the time my comments reflect what I think of the picture.
I really don't see what is wrong with sharing that when I upload them.

I certainly do not add comments for higher hit rates, because there is very little that you can do about them. (Upload time and number of other uploads for example have a far greater influence, as well as plugging them in the forums  Wink/being sarcastic

I think the picture quality determines the number of hits, for example when I see a crappy picture with a really nice comment I do not open it, and I will open it the other way round.

I will continue to add my comments, just let me know when I go over the top, OK?

Regards,

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RE: Everything For Views?

Mon May 27, 2002 5:13 am

Ofcourse you can say what you want in the comments field Andrew, where did I refer to you in my starting post? I was talking in general.

I uploaded that photo after started this thread, so I assume my comment, no problem.

But, there are comments and comments.

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RE: Everything For Views?

Mon May 27, 2002 5:21 am

Luis,

I think there is great inconsistency in your picture and your post. I can understand that some people (including you apparently) do not like "check this", "find that" comments, but what's the point in doing it yourself afterwards? As I see it, this comment is in the exact same category as your first post.

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RE: Everything For Views?

Mon May 27, 2002 5:30 am

ok, it's my opinion, there are comments and comments, agree if you want.

I remember one photo that on the comment was something like "the passenger in nth window is looking at us", I opened the photo and didn't see the passenger so I felt deceived. This is the point.

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RE: Everything For Views?

Mon May 27, 2002 5:37 am

One more thing, look at all my photos and tell me how many times do I make that kind of comments? I only do it where there is really something different to see.

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RE: Everything For Views?

Mon May 27, 2002 6:06 am

I agree Luis, but your last point: "Pointing something out that is simply not there" did not come across clearly in your first post. I read it as: "People find the most trivial things to increase their hit rates"

Your comments are always nice and to the point. No complaints there.
But the timing of the Antonov picture made me laugh a bit. (currently 23 hits and counting) Just kidding  Wink/being sarcastic

Cheers

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RE: Everything For Views?

Mon May 27, 2002 6:20 am

English is not my natural language, I think I can be understood when I think in portuguese what I wrote in english.

Anyway, I MUST avoid this kind of posts because while it's a valid opinion, it's something personal that can generate subjective conclusions.

Luis
 
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RE: Everything For Views?

Mon May 27, 2002 6:39 am

I've no problem with comments if they add something to the picture ... but I do find comments which are perhaps misplaced in the broad context of A.net irritating ... some examples:

- comments which will obviously date, or be factually incorrect in time (eg. "the only shot of this plane on A.net" - how do you know this will be true next week?)

- comments which assume pictures stay in a particular order (eg. "see my previous upload")

- in jokes, or comments to friends - these are meaningless to all but a few viewers and make a.net seem a bit exclusive

Comments to inform, yes. But could we keep less formal remarks to the forums?

Cheers,

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RE: Everything For Views?

Mon May 27, 2002 6:54 am

Why should you avoid these posts, Luis? We had a normal discussion IMO, taking into account that the Internet is not the most suitable place for discussing. I would rather change views over a beer or two.


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RE: Everything For Views?

Mon May 27, 2002 7:01 am

Well, I think I have a tendency to discuss polemic subjects instead of easy posts, no matter who will like it or not. When I share my polemic opinions there is a strong risk of misunderstands between forum members.

Luis
 
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RE: Everything For Views?

Mon May 27, 2002 1:11 pm

Hey Luis,

I was just having a bit of fun.................. that is what life is all about. Big grin

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RE: Everything For Views?

Mon May 27, 2002 4:17 pm

Hi all

What a totally pointless and boring thread this has turned out to be.

What might be a good idea is to start a thread that is actually interesting and not started bacause someone has nothing better to do during the weekend.

Come on Luis...grow up a little!

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