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Who Here Uses UV Filters?

Mon Jul 22, 2002 1:32 am

I'm thinking about getting this filter for my Pentax ZX-7:

http://www01.bhphotovideo.com/default.sph/FrameWork.class?FNC=RequiredAccessoriesActivator__Aproduct_html___41637___PEUV58___REG___CatID=-269___SID=EF639D33A10

It would mainly be to protect the lens, but also to to help reduce the UV Rays.

Are they worth it? Should I get it?

Also, how useful are polarizer filters?

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

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RE: Who Here Uses UV Filters?

Mon Jul 22, 2002 1:54 am

UV filters, I have one on all of my lenses, blocks the UV (thus protects your eyes) and protects the lense as you said. I have no experience in using polarizers.

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RE: Who Here Uses UV Filters?

Mon Jul 22, 2002 2:07 am

Okay, I guess I will get it then when I order the Scan Dual II.

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RE: Who Here Uses UV Filters?

Mon Jul 22, 2002 2:08 am

I normally try and stay away from UV or other "protection" filters. First of all, they are essentially just a clear piece of glass that will not improve your photos any (despite what the marketing B.S. spews). In fact, UV filters will promote softer images and increase chances of flare. These chances can be reduced somewhat by investing in a high-quality, multi-coated filter like a Hoya S-HMC or B+W, but the benefits gained (in my opinion) are not worth the cost.

If you are careful with your equipment and use a good, metal lens hood, it will provide a lot more protection than some thin piece of glass (unless you plan on shooting in perpetual dust storms).

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RE: Who Here Uses UV Filters?

Mon Jul 22, 2002 2:17 am

You can be as carefull as you want, but what if someone else isn't? Bump into you, makes you drop the cam while shooting..... Everybody what he wants offcourse, but I don't take the chance...

I have one B+w and one Hoya, so I do use quality filters
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RE: Who Here Uses UV Filters?

Mon Jul 22, 2002 2:29 am

"You can be as carefull as you want, but what if someone else isn't? Bump into you, makes you drop the cam while shooting..."

Lens Hood.  Big grin
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RE: Who Here Uses UV Filters?

Mon Jul 22, 2002 2:45 am

Lenshood is indeed the answer to protection, unless you thing someone's going to throw paint or mud at you. In such cases a filter is recommended.

Get the best filters you can afford. It's silly putting a $10 filter on a $1000 lens.
Best lines are multicoated B+W and Hoya. Expect to pay for them, a 77mm Hoya KR1.5 MRC (Skylight, which I like better, as it also has a slight warming effect) will set you back about $75 (incl taxes).
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RE: Who Here Uses UV Filters?

Mon Jul 22, 2002 3:03 am

I use Hoya HMC filters on all of my lenses. Mostly they're UV but some are skylights. I also use hoods as well. I find that they serve two different purposes; the hood saves the lens when I drop it but the filter protects in situations where I can't use the hood [like against a fence] and allows me to clean the front of the lens in the wet or dust without being as careful as I might normally be. I've also had a filter which was broken by a stray gravel chip when I was doing a motor racing event - the lens wasn't affected so I guess you could say the filter did it's job.


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RE: Who Here Uses UV Filters?

Mon Jul 22, 2002 3:18 am

UV/Skylight filters are, if anything, a personal preference. If it makes you more comfortable knowing that a filter is on, knock yourself out.

I concur with J.T., it is silly to go out and buy an expensive lens just to throw some cheap UV filter on the front of it...It kind of defeats the purpose of buying high-quality glass, doesn't it? I am just an advocate of lens hoods, they provide the most protection, they are cheaper (generally), and most importantly, they WORK...Not only as protection, but by reducing the amount of stray light that enters the lens.
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RE: Who Here Uses UV Filters?

Mon Jul 22, 2002 3:31 am

How is this $35 Pentax filter? Would it be good or no?

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RE: Who Here Uses UV Filters?

Mon Jul 22, 2002 5:20 am

I use a UV filter on my Pentax ZX-30 100% of the time. Check out my photos if you want to compare.

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RE: Who Here Uses UV Filters?

Mon Jul 22, 2002 5:54 am

Serge, what type and brand is your filter?
 
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RE: Who Here Uses UV Filters?

Mon Jul 22, 2002 6:02 am

I don't have the original packaging anymore, but on the filter itself it says "Sunpak 58mm UV, Made in Japan". I bought it online on cameraworld.com.

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RE: Who Here Uses UV Filters?

Mon Jul 22, 2002 6:12 am

How much did you pay for it? do you remember?
 
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RE: Who Here Uses UV Filters?

Mon Jul 22, 2002 3:18 pm

If you use them to keep dust away from you lenses proper then they are a good thing. As far as sharpness as it has been mentioned before, you will loose a little since you are shooting through another layer of class.

I wouldn't recommend anybody by screw-in or ring type filters anyway. Unless it is a circular polorizer.

If I had to do it again, instead of investing in the screw in ones that I have now, I would have bought into a Coklin filter system and their square filters. You have a much larger selection of special effect filters available and one you have the filters and the mount, you just need an adaptor ring for you size lense.

It is pretty expensive to by screw-in filters for lense sizes larger the 62mm. A coklin 62mm ring is pretty cheap. and like I said, the filters and holder will work on just about any size lense.
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RE: Who Here Uses UV Filters?

Mon Jul 22, 2002 3:25 pm

Hey Serge, BA.

I put up another post, http://www.airliners.net/discussions/aviation_photography/read.main/56573/

But am looking for some opinions on what you think of those particular model cameras.
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RE: Who Here Uses UV Filters?

Mon Jul 22, 2002 3:55 pm

L-188, personally I prefer screwin filters over Cokin because they are optically superior.
The only Cokins I am really comfortable with are the closeup and graduated filters. The closup lenses are glass, the graduated ones are just too much of a hassle to use as screwin ones.
I've ordered a Cokin polariser, but only because I need one and have no money to buy the 77mm screwmount B+W which costs twice as much (but I will probably buy that in due course).

Cokin has its place, but I see it more as a line for filters that are used infrequently or (as with the graudated ones) are just too hard to use when you can't slide them up and down as required.
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RE: Who Here Uses UV Filters?

Mon Jul 22, 2002 4:00 pm

I made the switch when I got that one lense with the 62mm opening in the front. Like I said I couldn't belive what they wanted the screw in that size.

Most of the Cokin ones that I have are ones that are ment to be used with B&W film, (Red,Orange,Yellow,Green)

I do want to pick up a couple of star filters and a couple of graduated in the same color.

When you are supporting lense with three different sizes of screw adaptors,( 49, 58, 62mm respecively) it is a lot cheaper to buy Coklin and then just have the ring adaptors for the lens.
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RE: Who Here Uses UV Filters?

Tue Jul 23, 2002 3:14 am

Hoya IMO are hit and miss. For the price that you pay for them they just aren't the quality that I would expect. Now B+W and Tiffen I have found good results and have a few of them that I use all the time.

Now I suggest getting a high quality UV filter for every lens, why, because repairing the front element is rather expensive. I keep UV filters on all my lens all the time. One thing I do though it rotate them monthly so they don't get stuck on the lens.

Now polrizers are real nice if you want to take photos of reflective objects like glass, and water they all you to see though the surface rather well.

Now the Cokin P mount is a rather good system IMO, but the Cokin filters just aren't up to the quality that I expect, they are plastic, compared to the normal glass. If you buy into their system use the more expensive glass filters, they produce better results. I do like the system because I can place grad ND filter and move it up and down with ease, instead of having to move the camera up and down.
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