sudden
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Sigma Lenses.

Fri Aug 09, 2002 3:52 pm

What are your experience when it comes to there lenses?

Moreover, how are there lenses rated when it comes to the "economy class" models and "business class"? I mean, they have D, L, DL etc. Wich Letter stands for what regarding good, poor.

I have 2 lenses for my Canon: 28-80 + 100-300 and they are from Sigma.
I'm not an expert when it comes to shooting A/C's, but the more I learn, the more you notice details.  Smile

Am thinking about getting new lenses in a while, and ofcourse you always want to get the best as sheap as possible.  Smile
In this case I wonder if I chould maybe go for Canon lenses straight on, or the "business class" lenses from Sigma.

Any input is welcome.

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RE: Sigma Lenses.

Fri Aug 09, 2002 4:30 pm

Hi,
I currently have two Sigma lenses, and both are fantastic.

1) 28-105 f2.8-4.0 - I have only had this lens for two days and already I love it. I love the internal focussing on it, which now comes standard on most lenses, but for $512.00AUD it was a bargain.

2) 170-500 f5-6.3 APO. A lot of photographers on here have this lens because again, for the price, it turns out some really good images. I think mine has a slight problem with the auto fucussing switch, but I think it's more to do with the switch than the lenses autofocus capabilities.

I use both these lenses on my Canon, and they compare to my canon lenses. ( even though I just sold them. )

No problems with Vignetting on either lens and autofocus is great on both.

As for more of their expensive lenses, I haven't yet tried them, so can't really give a valued judgement.

Hope I'm of help.

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RE: Sigma Lenses.

Fri Aug 09, 2002 4:57 pm

The first aftermarket lens that I bought for my camera was a Sigma.

I just bought a new 28-135 last july, but my camera broke the first time I took it out to use it.

It wasn't the fault of the lens. Sigma makes a good product.
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RE: Sigma Lenses.

Fri Aug 09, 2002 4:57 pm

Well it all comes down on how much money you want to spend and if you are willing to shoot with third party lenses!

Sigma in general is a good brand and the top notch lenses can certainly be compared to the big brands like Nikon and Canon.

I myself have used Sigma lenses for the longest time, mainly the 170-500mm.
The price is hard to beat if you want to have a 500mm lens.

The biggest problem I have seen with the 170-500 is the slow Autofocus, especially in low light, you will be shooting 500 @ f6.3.

I missed a lot of shots, b/c of this problem!

Once you get your hands on the real stuff you never want to go back....I am talking about the 80-200 f2.8 or 70-200 f2.8

For a beginner, Sigma lenses would do......

Once you get more established in this hobby, you can still think about upgrading your equipment. This is how I did it......

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RE: Sigma Lenses.

Fri Aug 09, 2002 5:40 pm

Yes, money plays a part of it, but I see it more or less like an investment if I upgrade. I bought my camera as a package with the lenses I have now, and it does the job (I think).
I will start to upload in a short while, so we will see how it turns out.  Smile
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RE: Sigma Lenses.

Fri Aug 09, 2002 6:31 pm

Hi,

Nice topic. I also have a question about Sigma lenses: I'm going to buy probably a D60. Originally, I was thinkin of also buying a package 'EOS 300 + Canon 28-90 + Canon 75-300' (~€600).

However, the 75-300 would make like 110-450 on a Canon D60. Now, since I would like a lens that has like 28-300mm (110mm is just too big when a 747 flies over), I saw a Sigma 28-300mm 3.5-6.3, for €499.

Now, do you guys think this is a good lens? I know Tamron also has a 28-300mm 3.5-6.3 for €595. Does Canon have a 28-300mm or so (or a lens that, when fitted on a D60, would make less than 100mm until...who knows) at an affordable price?

Thanks,

Ivan

PS: Nice to see that Sigma appears to make some good lenses  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: Sigma Lenses.

Fri Aug 09, 2002 6:42 pm

I don't know where in the world you are, but Jessops.com are currently selling a refurbished Sigma 28-300 Supertelephoto lens for £180 (€300).

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RE: Sigma Lenses.

Fri Aug 09, 2002 6:53 pm

Sdjminton:

Seems like you didn't take a look at my profile. Anyway, this is Belgium calling  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

I've already heard of that Jessops.com. Is that some sort of auction thing, or second hand online store ('refurbished'). But yes, I know that the price is somewhat high. Action Shop over here is quite expensive. but I think the photography store where I'm going to order my D60 probably will sell the Sigma lens at a lower price (the price difference between Action Shop and that store for the D60 is €500! - same package)

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RE: Sigma Lenses.

Fri Aug 09, 2002 6:57 pm

Ok I'll rephrase  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

If you can drop on a Sigma 28-300mm Supertelephoto lens at a good price it's worthwhile adding to your collection  Smile/happy/getting dizzy You retain some wide angle as well as having a big tele.

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RE: Sigma Lenses.

Fri Aug 09, 2002 7:15 pm

Hi Sudden,

I'd avoid "super zooms" if I were you. These always compromise quality. Stick to 3 or 4 times zooms (70-210, 170-500, 100-400 etc) and just buy the best you can afford.

There is little point trying to cover all the bases on a budget as you will invariably end up trading up later.

I have a D60 and now have the following focal lengths

Tokina 19-35mm (effective 30-56mm) - not too expensive and well regarded lens
Canon 28-135mm IS (effective 45-216mm) - one of Canons best non-L lenses
Canon 70-200mm F4 L (effective 112-320mm) - cheaper than the 2.8 L lens!

...throw in a good 2x teleconverter for the longer lens taking it up to effective 224-640mm (resulting quality loss on the L lens is minimal) and it works very well. Replace the 70-200 L with the much cheaper consumer version and it is a pretty cost effective package.

Just my current setup and likely to change in time...but I'll not be getting rid of the Canon L glass.

Regards,
Dean

BTW - these also work very well on my old EOS 300 and here the 19mm wide angle is very useful  Big thumbs up
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RE: Sigma Lenses.

Fri Aug 09, 2002 7:17 pm

With all 3rd party lenses, I'd stick with their top lines only (or with lenses that you can't get elsewhere).
The low-end lenses cannot yet compete in quality with the equivalents from Nikon or Canon, the top lenses can (or at least get very close indeed).
In the low-end market, the price difference is also not very large, in the highend market the price difference is huge (often 50-75% cheaper for the Sigma or Tokina).

With Sigma, that would be the EX series. For Tokina, the ATX series.

I have one Tokina ATX-Pro lens, and I'm impressed with it. While the corresponding Nikkor would probably be better, it also costs 3 times as much (or 6 times if you take the 50% discount I got on the Tokina into account) and I doubt the Nikkor more than a few percentage points better.

While some people may want to pay $1000 just to get a lenscap and barrel engraved with the word "Nikon" or "Canon", I find that a bit of paint works wonders  Smile/happy/getting dizzy and costs a lot less too.
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RE: Sigma Lenses.

Fri Aug 09, 2002 7:38 pm

Tokina 19-35mm (effective 30-56mm) - not too expensive and well regarded lens

Hey I have been looking at that lens in a Pentax mount to finish out my zoom lens capabilities.

Any more details on that lens?
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RE: Sigma Lenses.

Fri Aug 09, 2002 8:08 pm

A big thumbs up  Big thumbs up for Sigma lenses from me. Although I'm now a 'Canon' man I use the Sigma 170-500mm lens with it and performs extremely well.

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RE: Sigma Lenses.

Fri Aug 09, 2002 8:10 pm

http://intro2020.co.uk/tokina2.html for the 19-35 f/3.5-4.5 ATX or http://www.intro2020.co.uk/tokina6.html for its big brother, the 20-35 f/2.8 ATX-Pro

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RE: Sigma Lenses.

Fri Aug 09, 2002 8:15 pm

I have the tokina 19-35....and love it!!
Here are some of the results with using various cameras.

EOS500N:

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RE: Sigma Lenses.

Fri Aug 09, 2002 11:05 pm

Hi all

Love the Sigma 170-500mm.

Works well with the D30 and have not had any problems with focusing at all.

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The Northwest DC10 was in poor light and heavy rain, but again, it performed a lot better than expected.
I think I bumped up the ISO to 400 on that particular shot.

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RE: Sigma Lenses.

Sat Aug 10, 2002 4:10 am

Not that NW shot again, lost count of how many threads thats appeared in recently  Wink/being sarcastic

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RE: Sigma Lenses.

Sat Aug 10, 2002 6:18 am

Hello,

Sigma 170-500 for a good price look here http://www.technikdirekt.de

Wim
 
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RE: Sigma Lenses.

Mon Aug 12, 2002 5:22 pm

My conclusion from reading your posts is that I can might as well upgrade with Sigma lenses, and also save some €'s.  Smile

Now, I wrote that I have 2 lenses already from Sigma that are from the DL serie. What would be a good upgrade?
Not the high end now, but an alround lens from Sigma that does the job. Both 28-80 and 100-300.
I rather ask you people here, then ask in a shop. My experience from that is that you don't really get a fair answer.
Better to ask people that actually are using the stuff for the same purpose as myself.  Big grin

Best regards.
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