boeingholiday
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Ideas To Improve The Screening-time?

Sat Aug 31, 2002 4:27 pm

Hello Airliners, this topic might be discussed some time before, but I really would like to know what you think about the following:
I know that the screeners have a difficult job to do, are in a hurry and are good guys  Smile/happy/getting dizzy . But we as photographes have to wait days to get our photos screened. Can't we improve the screening methods to reduce the waiting-time a little bit? I mean, look at Peter Unmuth ( Big grin great photos, peter! ), is it 'cause he's a screener, or why get his photos screened before others?
Any ideas welcomed, as always "Clear sky" Markus Big grin
 
Glenn
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RE: Ideas To Improve The Screening-time?

Sat Aug 31, 2002 5:31 pm

here's a few suggestions,

Peter could stop uploading  Smile/happy/getting dizzy (and Colin Work for that too, can't compete with his shots at the moment)  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
People could stop uploading rubbish (one exception of Note recently was OK though) (screeners know what I mean)  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
People could also stop uploading 100 shots at a time
or people could just accept the fact that we as screeners have nothing better to do than upload Peter Unmuths shots a priority as he is a screener

 Smile/happy/getting dizzy


Now sits back and watches angry mob think Screeners are biased  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
Skymonster
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RE: Ideas To Improve The Screening-time?

Sat Aug 31, 2002 5:37 pm

How many times do we have to say this???  Angry Neither Peter, nor any of the other screeners, get priority over anyone else.

Peter has screened over 3000 photographs this last week. Think about how long that must have taken... Lets just say he averages screening one photograph per minute... No, lets assume he does better than that and averages two photographs per minute! 3000 photographs at 2 per minute = 25 hours. Thats a full day he's spent screening - in a week. So if any one photographer contributing to this site deserved priority treatment of uploads, it would be Peter.

The sequencing and processing of the queue has been debated ad-nauseum recently. Search the forum and you'll find all the answers. Queue processing is being reviewed, but there are no overnight answers.


Andy

(ps: I normally screen a lot over the weekend - over 1500 last weekend. My ADSL line seems to be playing up today, so this weekend I shall be doing none. Thats a good thousand less screenings that will take place over this weekend. Draw your own conclusions)
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PUnmuth@VIE
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RE: Ideas To Improve The Screening-time?

Sat Aug 31, 2002 5:40 pm

Hi!
Oh me again?  Sad
Guys my last upload was on the 25th of August. No more since then and no ones in the Q. Just screening to get the Q down.
Well i intended to do so, but now ..  Pissed
..... no.

Nice day Guys
Peter
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ckw
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RE: Ideas To Improve The Screening-time?

Sat Aug 31, 2002 5:44 pm

Its been said before, by obviously needs saying again - screeners get no preferential treatment!

What probably is true is that since screeners tend to be those who have some considerable A.net experience, we are less likely to upload shots that are borderline cases (not that we don't get rejections from time to time)!

This means we are less likely to get shots hung up in the "need a 2nd opinion" category.

Last Friday I had allowed my position in the queue to lapse and added some shots at the end of the queue and then monitored their progress. (Note that screeners have no influence over their own pics). It took 5 days from end of queue to appearing on A.net, which is pretty good in my opinion - in other words, although the queue tends to be large because of constant additions, the turnover rate is pretty high. Delays are invariable due to the fact that a picture is "borderline" and thus requires the attention of more screeners than usual.

While I accept there is always room for improvement in the process, I think we are at a pretty good balance between quantity and quality. At this stage I'd suggest photographers themselves could have a bigger influence on screening times by being more selective in what they choose to upload.

1 - look at recent uploads. Are your pictures really in this calibre?
2 - check existing shots of the same reg - does your version of this aircraft really add to the database?
3 - check for the little details - is the shot really level? Is there dirt on the image? Are there any borders?

Not pointing at anyone in particular, but I do get the impression that a number of people simply upload nearly everything they take, with little or no preparation.

Cheers,

Colin
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Glenn
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RE: Ideas To Improve The Screening-time?

Sat Aug 31, 2002 5:50 pm

And I have a photo that has been in the Queue for several days now. It is of a Qantas 737. I sent an email to all the screeners (tongue in cheek) threatening them not to reject it as bad common. So far they have not  Smile/happy/getting dizzy but the Bastards haven't uploaded it yet either. If you can get favoritism out of that your a better person than I ( Atually it would be pretty hard to do as I am such a top bloke, just ask Colin who always Bowed when I entered the room)


 Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
boeingholiday
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RE: Ideas To Improve The Screening-time?

Sat Aug 31, 2002 6:58 pm

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh!!!!  Wow!  Wow!
That's the wrong way of getting ideas in this post of mine!!!!
I really don't want to annoy the Screeners here, as I pointed out they have a big job to do, which isn't very easy sometimes!
Peter, I didn't know that you're a screener, please keep screening, I just was droven up the wall when I saw that some photographers get pictures quite daily accepted, that's what I meant, sorry again  Innocent
My idea was this: -> maximum upload: 50 pictures ?
At the end again, sorry Screeners  Crying
 
Glenn
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RE: Ideas To Improve The Screening-time?

Sat Aug 31, 2002 7:04 pm

Ah it's sweet now, now that you placed 50 bucks in my pocket while you weren't looking  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

hint hint

 Wink/being sarcastic
 
Skymonster
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RE: Ideas To Improve The Screening-time?

Sat Aug 31, 2002 7:32 pm

Peter, I didn't know that you're a screener

Oh yeh...  Confused Careful or you'll dig yourself an even deeper hole!  Nuts

Previously, in this topic...

I mean, look at Peter Unmuth, is it 'cause he's a screener, or why get his photos screened before others?

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boeingholiday
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RE: Ideas To Improve The Screening-time?

Sat Aug 31, 2002 7:59 pm

 Nuts +  Confused =  Innocent kind regards
 
vir380
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RE: Ideas To Improve The Screening-time?

Sat Aug 31, 2002 8:25 pm

What a funny way to get your uploads constantly sent to the back of the que !

 Nuts

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cfalk
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RE: Ideas To Improve The Screening-time?

Sat Aug 31, 2002 9:30 pm

Screener or not, there is no preference. Even though I am a screener, I usually wait between a week and 3 weeks to get my shots screened.

Charles
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PRM
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RE: Ideas To Improve The Screening-time?

Sat Aug 31, 2002 11:26 pm

I've an idea.....Screening time can be quickened-up by posts like this one being deleted promptly so that screeners are not forced to repond over and over again to quell more unfounded claims about how current queue is preferential towards certain photographers etc, etc.....

This way screeners can get on with some good screening......unless the weather is good of course, then they might be allowed a few hours to get out and take some more picture before coming back and inserting them at the top of the queue  Wink/being sarcastic
 
Carlos Borda
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RE: Ideas To Improve The Screening-time?

Sun Sep 01, 2002 3:25 am

I'm not a screener... but that one made it around my way somehow.
Very interesting type of aircraft those two were. I'd love to take a ride on one of those one day. Big grin  Love

~Carlos

Glenn writes:

>>People could stop uploading rubbish (one exception of Note recently was OK though) (screeners know what I mean)>>
 
Glenn
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RE: Ideas To Improve The Screening-time?

Sun Sep 01, 2002 7:19 am

Which reminds me, I should do some more screening  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
Sukhoi
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RE: Ideas To Improve The Screening-time?

Sun Sep 01, 2002 5:04 pm

One thing people need to remember is that were not paid to be screeners were doing it because we want to. So it has to fit in around our work schedules and so on. Screening takes a hell of a lot longer than uploading too!

Cheers

Paul (Too busy to screen and shoot with his new S2!)
 
Glenn
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RE: Ideas To Improve The Screening-time?

Sun Sep 01, 2002 5:21 pm

Paul, I have seen your S2 shots, you need to throw it away and start again and screen  Wink/being sarcastic

Glenn

 
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RE: Ideas To Improve The Screening-time?

Sun Sep 01, 2002 6:15 pm

There are only 2 ways to shorten the time it takes to get shots screened:
1) screen more pictures per day
2) reduce the number of pictures entering the queue

1) would mean either more screeners doing the same amount of work per person or the same number of screeners working harder.
2) is something everyone can work on, and maybe should be enforced. I think it's time for a strict and enforced cap on the number of shots a photographer can have in the queue (say 5-10 at a time). Not only will that stop people uploading hundreds of shots a day (you know who you are) but it might also get people to think more about WHAT they upload and take more time to give those shots a realistic chance of being accepted. Maybe screeners can comment, but I can imagine a lot of people just uploading everything they have without any adjustment in the hope something gets accepted.
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Skymonster
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RE: Ideas To Improve The Screening-time?

Sun Sep 01, 2002 6:37 pm

CKW said:
1 - look at recent uploads. Are your pictures really in this calibre?
2 - check existing shots of the same reg - does your version of this aircraft really add to the database?
3 - check for the little details - is the shot really level? Is there dirt on the image? Are there any borders?

Not pointing at anyone in particular, but I do get the impression that a number of people simply upload nearly everything they take, with little or no preparation.


Well said Colin. The queue is large, but it is regularly be dominated by a few people who upload and upload and upload as if this is their own personal site, a platform on which to exhibit all of their photographs. Colin's point number 2 is critical here. If people would be a bit more selective, a lot of the queue problems would go away. Sadly, these comments have been made before and make little difference.

Andy
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PUnmuth@VIE
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RE: Ideas To Improve The Screening-time?

Mon Sep 02, 2002 5:59 am

Totally agree with Colin.
The best way to reduce screening time would be to be selective on uploads. For example not to upload 3 shots of the controls of a airplane obstructed by the hand and watch of the pilot, or shots where you already write in the remark "I know its blurry but ....".
Cheers
Peter
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mirage
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RE: Ideas To Improve The Screening-time?

Mon Sep 02, 2002 7:38 pm

I still think a limit should be applied to each photographer upload. With a limit number of photos quality would increase even more, it would force photographers to be more selective and choose the best of the best instead of using Airliners.net as their personal online portfolio. It would reduce the queue for screening and as a consequence it would decrease the number of photos uploaded each day (it's not good to have new 1000 photos each day). It would put all the photographers at the same level and it's a common pratice on internet photo display sites.

Luis

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