JeffM
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Question For Digital Shooters..

Thu Oct 03, 2002 2:02 am

For those that shoot digital, what white balance settings do you use? Auto? Manual? or any of the presets?

And do any of you use any "in camera" contrast or sharpening functions?

Thanks.

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RE: Question For Digital Shooters..

Thu Oct 03, 2002 2:04 am

I leae the white balance on auto and hae the camera sharpen, but that function seems to make very little difference. (Canon D60)
 
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RE: Question For Digital Shooters..

Thu Oct 03, 2002 2:09 am

shoot in raw, auto wb and never let the camera sharpen for you, always do it in ps.

Joe
 
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RE: Question For Digital Shooters..

Thu Oct 03, 2002 2:32 am

Thanks Joe, I have been curious about the manual setting feature, especially when the sun is ducking in and out of the clouds. It seems like there could be quite a difference in the white balance.

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RE: Question For Digital Shooters..

Thu Oct 03, 2002 3:02 am

Jeff,

With the Canon PRO90 I used to have, shooting in RAW mode saved the image as the sensor saw it, with no processing options applied at that stage.

When converting to TIFF, BMP or whatever, I could then apply the WB, contrast, saturation etc. to my liking over and over again.

I assume that the DSLRs do this the same way with the RAW conversion.

After all, the white balance in a digital is just another image processing function, best applied to the RAW image in the comfort of your home.

Regards,
Craig.
 
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RE: Question For Digital Shooters..

Thu Oct 03, 2002 4:03 am

I agree with shooting RAW, and, in most instances shooting auto white balance - the only exceptions to this are when I'm shooting for fun at a party or similar and I want to get a lot of shots on a single card, I'll use jpeg.

Also if I'm in a fixed lighting situation - eg. studio flash, flourescent interiors etc. I will use the appropriate white balance setting, or better, create a custom white balance setting - but only for very critical work. This is roughly the equivalent of using light balancing filters on a film camera.

Cheers,

Colin
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RE: Question For Digital Shooters..

Thu Oct 03, 2002 4:31 am

indeed Colin, RAW for the serious aviation shots- the kid shots and family stuff- jpg is just fine.

Joe
 
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RE: Question For Digital Shooters..

Thu Oct 03, 2002 4:36 am

is raw the same thing as tiff?
 
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RE: Question For Digital Shooters..

Thu Oct 03, 2002 4:52 am

Guess I'm not serious as I shoot with JPEGs. Oops.

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RE: Question For Digital Shooters..

Thu Oct 03, 2002 5:09 am

I can only speak for myself when i say that serious aviation shots for "me" are in RAW only . If you choose to shoot in jpg mode Andy then more power to you but for me, thats not an option, just like sigma lenses and fuji film will never be an option- all personal choices we as individuals choose to make. For Airliners.net like Colin says, you see about 1mp worth of data so for here, in the end its all alot more similar than different.

Joe
 
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RE: Question For Digital Shooters..

Thu Oct 03, 2002 5:13 am

Brian,
RAW is a compressed file which can be turned into a TIFF or JPG or BMP or whatever else you want it to be. RAW files allow you more latitude in making adjustments (I believe up or down 2 stops in postprocessing while not blowing out highlghts), especially with tricky light situations plus RAW's save space on hdrive or disk since a D60 RAW is about 6.5MP while a TIFF of the same 3000 wide pic is about 38MP- huge difference.

Joe
 
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RE: Question For Digital Shooters..

Thu Oct 03, 2002 5:20 am

should have said MB, not MP when referring to RAW 6.5 and TIFF 38.

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RE: Question For Digital Shooters..

Thu Oct 03, 2002 5:25 am

I only have my D60 for a week (first pics are already waiting in the queu...), but so far I have been shooting auto white balance, and using none of the sharpening/contrast functions that come with the camera. Why would I do this, if I can still do it afterwards?

I haven't used RAW-mode yet, but I think I'll give it a try very soon...The only thing is, I only have 1gB Microdrive, so I can only take like 140 pictures or so in RAW mode (by the way, RAW is not a file extension for those that still don't know, Canon RAW files are *.crw). And I use a card reader, so I don't know if I can convert RAW files without using the Canon D60 software (well, I'm too lazy to look it up  Smile/happy/getting dizzy ).

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RE: Question For Digital Shooters..

Thu Oct 03, 2002 5:33 am

Ivan,
you need the zoombrowser software (which should have come with your D60) in order to convert your RAW's to tiffs/jpg/bmp. I recommend Breezebrowser.com software- much much better- only 35 bucks. Is shooting RAW a pain in the ass? you betcha- converting 100 RAWs to useable tiffs/jpg takes a long time and indeed you can hold tons more jpgs in your card compared to RAWs- but theres a reason for why people do RAW which i've already explained earlier.

Joe
 
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RE: Question For Digital Shooters..

Thu Oct 03, 2002 6:46 am

Joe Pries:

Thanks for your comment on my issue. Next time I'll go to BRU I'll shoot some RAW files and see what painful process I have to go through  Laugh out loud Then I'll figure it out for myself what I like most.

Ivan
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RE: Question For Digital Shooters..

Thu Oct 03, 2002 8:38 am

Wow, thanks guys. I appreciate the info. I tried the manual wb setting today at DEN while shooting an AN-124 Russian. It was very overcast so I tried setting it by white board. Then I used the preset "cloudy" setting. The default "auto" mode kind of dulled what color was there, while the other two modes showed more saturation overal.

I have not decided if I will upload them as there are quite a few 124's already, but it was a good test subject.
Thanks again.

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RE: Question For Digital Shooters..

Thu Oct 03, 2002 1:00 pm

I'll usually use the preset Sunlight wb setting, but often I whip out my 17% gray card and take an auto wb metering off of that, which gives me good results.

As for in-camera sharpening, etc. I don't use it. Not even my camera can outperform PS  Smile

Regards
Shawn
 
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RE: Question For Digital Shooters..

Thu Oct 03, 2002 1:14 pm

Thanks Shawn.

I don't think a camera has to out perform PS, just get along with it. Most digitals including the 707 need a little help sometimes.

Where in Colorado do you live? I am in Centennial.

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RE: Question For Digital Shooters..

Thu Oct 03, 2002 1:23 pm

Jeff,

I'll be looking for your pics here on airliners.net! It's good to know we have another Denver photographer, because pics from Denver used to be few and far between.

I'm a little closer to Colorado Springs, so I don't get up to Denver much. I don't go to COS a whole lot either, becuase there aren't a whole lot of interesting aircraft there.

BTW, what camera do you use?

-Shawn
 
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RE: Question For Digital Shooters..

Thu Oct 03, 2002 1:31 pm

Shawn,
I usually bring three cameras. Olympus C-700, Fuji 2800, and Nikon N80. Most pics on here are done with the Olympus, just a few with the Fuji as it only has an 8X zoom. I have tons of film from the Nikon and an old Minolta X-700, but I don't have a film scanner, only a flatbed! I just don't know enough about film scanners yet to make an informed decision.

I've got 66 photo's in the database at the moment, just trying to improve a little at a time.

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RE: Question For Digital Shooters..

Thu Oct 03, 2002 3:31 pm

I only ever shoot in jpg - RAW files are just too big (9MB) (TIFF are even worse 14MB) - all my digital shots at Popham were all shot on jpg.

I have had no problems getting a A4 size print from a 1 or 2 MB file that JPG produces.
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RE: Question For Digital Shooters..

Fri Oct 04, 2002 4:08 pm

Off topic reply, but does anyone know when An-124 comes to Denver? I've only caught it once and would like to catch it again.

Alex

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RE: Question For Digital Shooters..

Fri Oct 04, 2002 10:24 pm

Alex,

It was just here on Wednesday. Second time I've seen it here. I don't know the schedule.

Jeff

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