gerardo
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What Are "bad Borders"?

Sat Oct 05, 2002 9:30 pm

Hi all

I had a few rejections, saying "Please remove the borders that partly or in full surrounds these photos". The personal comment of the screener was: "in white border along the blue areas only."

What and where exactly are these borders? What can I do?
The pics in question:
http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=b744_jal_ja8081_28-09-02_7.jpg
http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=a320_edw_hb-ihx_28-09-02_2b.jpg
http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=a320_lx_hb-ijs_28-09-02_3.jpg

Thanks and kind regards
Gerardo
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Danny
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RE: What Are "bad Borders"?

Sat Oct 05, 2002 10:28 pm

No idea. Probably lack of other reasons for reject  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
photopilot
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RE: What Are "bad Borders"?

Sat Oct 05, 2002 10:32 pm

I downloaded the first photo to have a look at it in Photoshop.

http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=b744_jal_ja8081_28-09-02_7.jpg

When I magnified it to 1600% in Photoshop, you can see that the outermost row of pixels (ONE single Pixel width ONLY) is actually lighter (not really white) than the adjacent rows. Not sure why this is so. The fix would be to crop each image by a single row, or two pixels in width and height. Then re-submit the photos.

But at normal viewing sizes, this is Barely Visible on my monitor.

Steve
 
gerardo
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RE: What Are "bad Borders"?

Sat Oct 05, 2002 10:59 pm

Thanks Steve, I'll try this.

I hope, we don't have to axpnd to more than 1600% from now on  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Gerardo
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joe pries
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RE: What Are "bad Borders"?

Sat Oct 05, 2002 11:01 pm

Gerardo,
the quality of these shots is extremely high. appeal it to johan and he'll probably add em asap.

Joe
 
joe pries
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RE: What Are "bad Borders"?

Sat Oct 05, 2002 11:02 pm

actually the jal 744 is a big crooked horizon so maybe not so fast  Big grin

Joe
 
Jan Mogren
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RE: What Are "bad Borders"?

Sun Oct 06, 2002 3:09 am

Nah Joe,
just the rwy. Lamp posts are straight.  Wink/being sarcastic
/JM
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gerardo
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RE: What Are "bad Borders"?

Sun Oct 06, 2002 4:42 am

Thanks to all.

Yep, after I saw those borders (just for the memory: it's one pixel...) I went thru some uploaded pics as well and have found several pics, not just mine, with that border.

If you want to avoid it, first resize to an imagesize 2 pixels wider and higher, than the end size (example: 1026X770 for pics with a endsize of 1024x768) and resize again at the end after all your work on the pic.

I don't know, if this happens with all graphic softwares. I use Photoshop LE, for those interested.

And BTW: YEP, Jan is right, I tried to get those lamp posts straight, hoping, the result would be ok  Smile/happy/getting dizzy.

Regards
Gerardo
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Skymonster
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RE: What Are "bad Borders"?

Sun Oct 06, 2002 5:15 am

Gerado,

I believe it is something that happens only when you rotate images (or maybe when you crop images) - something in PhotoShop that does this - as on my own recently uploaded images such a border only shows on photos I know I have rotated.

Andy
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gerardo
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RE: What Are "bad Borders"?

Sun Oct 06, 2002 6:09 am

One reason more to try to shoot straight fotos  Laugh out loud

Seriously: thanks for that hint. This will help!!

Regards
Gerardo
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planeboy
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RE: What Are "bad Borders"?

Sun Oct 06, 2002 6:15 am

Nice shots - don't know about the borders - see a few jagged edges however - which are not too jagged - but...
 
TomH
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RE: What Are "bad Borders"?

Sun Oct 06, 2002 9:38 am

I didn't see a border in your JAL 747 shot, Gerardo. I also received such a rejection, and I didn't see a border in my shot either. I use Photoshop Elements, and I believe I had rotated the image a little.

The extra step of going to 1026 x xxx and then downsizing is going to be time consuming-do we really need to do this to get a shot with a near-invisible problem accepted?

Screeners: How can this be a problem if we can't see it? If the border you object to is one pixel wide and barely visible what problem does it pose to A.net?

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