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Time Magazine Photo Usage

Sat Oct 19, 2002 12:18 pm

Hi guys! I just got a very reasonable offer from TIME magazine to use a photo from the database taken by me. They were asking me to send a 'high res' version of the pic to them. Does anybody know how to set up the scanner settings for this request? Thanks a lot. G.Plomitzer
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RE: Time Magazine Photo Usage

Sat Oct 19, 2002 12:41 pm

Well if its for the print on a TIME page, they are going to want a high quality photo. According to your profile you scan prints, I would ask them if they want to scan your neg (maybe ask them to send you a CD with a high quality scan too?).

Nothing against you but TIME is know for it overall excellent photography IMO.

Hey what picture?
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RE: Time Magazine Photo Usage

Sat Oct 19, 2002 1:19 pm

Way to go G.!

Yes, tell us which one!

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Sat Oct 19, 2002 2:16 pm

Hey Gerhard, CONGRATULATIONS. Long time no talk to. No problem scanning the prints. I have had many photos published in magazines and books that were done from scans from prints. What kind of scanner and software are you using? I too had a recent success when NBC came knocking at my door wanting to use one of my photos for an upcoming episode of their news program, Dateline.

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RE: Time Magazine Photo Usage

Sun Oct 20, 2002 5:02 am

Hey guys....guess what? I got an email like that yesterday also! Same thing....They want to use one of my Delta photos from ATL in a story about Delta's (and the industrys) problems!

i sure hope it works out..if for nothing more than seeing my work in print - though they did offer me a professional-sized fee for it.

wish me luck....i will know more next week and will report back.
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Sun Oct 20, 2002 5:04 am

Oh.....and my photo is digital (D30) so i think it should meet Time's standards. I agree with PPGMD - Time does have some pretty darn good quality stuff. it sure would be nice to be in the same company as those photographers....
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Sun Oct 20, 2002 5:39 am

Hi all

Same e-mail for me today.

Wanting a Northwest image.

I received a mail from them some months ago.......nothing came of it.

Don't send the image until they agree to send payment for the amount mentioned in the e-mail.

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Sun Oct 20, 2002 6:09 am

Hi all! Good news that I'm not the only one who got an offer. Apparently they are doing an report about the airline industry and its situation right now. My shot (which I sent them today) is showing 5 tails of AA/CO B.777s at Gatwick. For Jeff: Thanks for the advice on the Bulgarian AF SU-25, right now its in HQ, we'll see what will happen. For Richard: Soon I'll send you a personal e-mail, good to talk to you again. Have a good night Gerhard
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Sun Oct 20, 2002 10:16 am

I wonder....if this is for real? I mean, why so many photographers contacted? They asked me for a similar shot to Gerhard's - 2 Delta tails in my case.

has anyone ever sold them a shot, or had a shot published in a newsmagazine type of publication?

Gerhard, what resolution did you send your shot in? I emailed him asking what their line screen was & what dpi they needed but the guy is probably off today and didn't respond yet.
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Sun Oct 20, 2002 11:31 am

Today off, I think not, they probally goto to the press during the weekend.
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RE: Time Magazine Photo Usage

Sun Oct 20, 2002 2:34 pm

Hi Guys:

As someone who spent 15 years in the news game, there are a couple of things you should understand.

If the article (and accompanying photos) is still in the development stage, which many feature news type articles are, then the art director might just be gathering artwork at this time. Then he presents his article, photos, graphics etc., to the editor for final layout. Some of the photos will make it, some of the photos will end up on the editing room floor so to speak. This is not an unusual occurance. The reason they ask for the high-res scans, is that when the decision is made to GO, then at that point, time (no pun intended) is of the essence. If the images are already on hand, then the article can make deadline and go right to print.

There have been many times that I have sent out images only to have not made the cut, but then again, there are also many times when I have made it to print. That is the way the "game" is played. It's not unethical at all, even if you might at first think so. They will indeed PAY for what is published, but not for what is not used. Welcome to the real world. And you must remember to NOT take it personally. Sometimes it can be as simple a reason as the photo "facing" the wrong way left to right. So they go with the image that fits what the graphic artist has designed into the layout. Also, sometime an expected interview (for example with Northwest) falls apart and does not take place. Then artwork from Northwest is not as high on the list as for example artwork from American, where the expected executive interview actually occured.

It all sounds pretty complicated, but on average it generally works out about even. 50/50 on acceptances and rejections. But the payday for the acceptances generally makes the average work in the photographers favour.

This is the major difference when a photo is used to illustrate a feature or news feature article, as against an immediate news event.

So don't ever give up hope, shoot for your own satisfaction, and take the gravy when it comes your way.

Steve

p.s. I just recently had a photo from A.net picked up by PLAYBOY in Hungary. Nice to think that I am the feature (it was a photo of ME in a glider) subject in Playboy across a double page spread. Ok.... send me your witty comments Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin And yes.... I still had my clothes on. Big grin

 
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RE: Time Magazine Photo Usage

Sun Oct 20, 2002 2:55 pm

Steve, thanks a lot for your explanation, we all have to wait for the October, 28th edition of TIME magazine. Congratulation with your published picture, but shouldn't it be rather PLAYGIRL instead of PLAYBOY.........???  Wink/being sarcastic Gerhard
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RE: Time Magazine Photo Usage

Mon Oct 21, 2002 3:41 pm

I got a request too but for a present for the outgoing Editor or someone like that. Wont be seeing it in print I wouldn't imagine though.
 
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RE: Time Magazine Photo Usage

Tue Oct 22, 2002 7:57 am

I had a large company (with the airline industry) use one of my photos. Turned out the 2000x______ wasn't good enough in the email, so I burned the full sized digital photo on a CD and sent it to them. Never heard back from them (although I did get my money). They said they would reimburse me for the overnight shipping (then I got some other B.S. fee from Fedex, so altogether I spent close to $50 on shipping). I emailed them last week, no response. I guess it's time to send a invoice.
 
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RE: Time Magazine Photo Usage

Tue Oct 22, 2002 4:19 pm

Hi all

Time came up trumps  Smile

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RE: Time Magazine Photo Usage

Tue Oct 22, 2002 9:36 pm

Same with this morning, they confirmed, that they will pay and credit me for this picture:

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Photo © Gerhard Plomitzer


Great news for me.
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Tue Oct 22, 2002 9:49 pm

Hi Gerhard

Just hope we got the same $$  Smile

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RE: Time Magazine Photo Usage

Tue Oct 22, 2002 10:31 pm

Way to GO!!!
Looking forward to seeing them in print.

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RE: Time Magazine Photo Usage

Wed Oct 23, 2002 12:03 am

Gary,

As long as they were not taken at LGW or your find yourself banned from any future visits there  Wink/being sarcastic

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RE: Time Magazine Photo Usage

Wed Oct 23, 2002 4:10 pm

Hi Paul

Not LGW but Singapore.

Gerhard, have you been able to fill out the forms yet?
I am stuck  Sad

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RE: Time Magazine Photo Usage

Wed Oct 23, 2002 10:32 pm

Gentlemen:
Indeed, on page 45 of this week's TIME is an article about Southwest, titled "One Airline's Magic". A montage of other airline tails are shown at the bottom, and the photos are credited as "Bottom, left to right, all from airliners.net: Chase, Leibowitz, Yao (2), Watt, Plomitzer, Coduto (2)". Congratulations! Thanks also to TIME, for honoring the copyrights and giving credit; when you see the finished work, it would have been easy to have simply "lifted" the images, without credit, payment, etc. Another good credit for airliners.net, also!
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RE: Time Magazine Photo Usage

Thu Oct 24, 2002 12:17 am

Hi George

Thanks for pointing that out.

Now how do I go getting a copy of the magazine?
Is this a worldwide version, or the USA version only?

When you get professionalism from companies who do things by the book, it makes it all worthwhile.

Nice guy to deal with there. That's what I like to see.

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RE: Time Magazine Photo Usage

Thu Oct 24, 2002 12:21 am

Hi all

Oooops....forgot to show the image.

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Photo © Gary Watt


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RE: Time Magazine Photo Usage

Thu Oct 24, 2002 5:12 am

wait a sec....is this the OCTOBER 28TH edition???

I was not told they would use a Southwest pic of mine. i was told DELTA, and I was told specifically OCTOBER 28TH....


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RE: Time Magazine Photo Usage

Thu Oct 24, 2002 5:35 am

Bruce,

Check the mag again, and read the credits carefully. The top image is credited to Rick Covington. The two DL shots are of 3708 (mine) and 6711.

 
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RE: Time Magazine Photo Usage

Thu Oct 24, 2002 5:57 am

Chris,

N6711M was the one I sent them! Of course i will know my shot when I see it but I am at work and do not have the mag...until later when i can go to a bookstore....I'm just so.....can't wait to actually see it. I hope they have it on sale when I get off work!


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RE: Time Magazine Photo Usage

Thu Oct 24, 2002 10:05 am

Gary, I asked for a free copy of the magazine in addition to the payment and they agreed to send it to me. Can't wait to see the article....... Finished the forms yesterday, waiting for a fax number to send them back, otherwise I'll send them back by mail. I agree, real nice guy to deal with at the other end. Regards Gerhard
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