pepef
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Why Does This Always Have To Happen To Me?

Tue Nov 26, 2002 6:09 pm

Just a small gripe...

I take pictures, I try to make them look better in an image editing program. I upload them, I wait 8 days.

At the same moment that they get added to the db they add at least 200 other pictures, so my pictures get buried on page 9, and nobody scrolls that many pages and actually sees them.

Can anything be done, or are there just too many pictures that get added each day?  Sad
 
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RE: Why Does This Always Have To Happen To Me?

Tue Nov 26, 2002 6:42 pm

Just so I have this right in my head because it is rather strange. Your saying that there are too many photos uploaded ? But everyone else says it's impossible  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

I find what works for me, is to upload photos that are low hit material. That way you don't notice anyone not looking at them  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
pepef
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RE: Why Does This Always Have To Happen To Me?

Tue Nov 26, 2002 6:50 pm

I'm already following your advice Glenn.
 
cabbott
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RE: Why Does This Always Have To Happen To Me?

Tue Nov 26, 2002 7:51 pm

Peter!

I'm surprised you manage any photos from the snowy windy and cold Helsinki! Rather u than me mate! Copenhagen is cold but not as cold as EHFK or ESSA

So what if they are on page9, who cares?? People will see them, maybe 2 people maybe 500 people it doesn't really matter, be happy they are on a.net.

"Can anything be done"
Well i will send the doctor straight away but it might just be to late!

Colin
 
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RE: Why Does This Always Have To Happen To Me?

Tue Nov 26, 2002 8:00 pm

Hi Peter

I always scroll past page nine but nothing ever seems to catch my eye.

Maybe if you upload a few days earlier, the amount of days you will have to wait will be about 6 and then I might see them.

Regards

Gary Watt
Aberdeen, Scotland
 
pepef
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RE: Why Does This Always Have To Happen To Me?

Tue Nov 26, 2002 8:03 pm

Thanks for the encouragement. I went to take photographs yesterday, I had a day off. I could hear the planes, but didn't see them. This happens a lot.

I metered the sky at 1:00 pm. Got a 1/250 sec. at f/5.6 exposure. And it's still getting darker each day until Dec 22nd. It was misty, I was 300 feet from the landing planes but didn't see them. That's the way it is around here.

But I'm trying to learn new things to do...


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Photo © Peter Fagerström



The new runway 22R is opening in an hour, I'm hoping that will improve things somewhat. New angles etc.

-Peter-
 
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RE: Why Does This Always Have To Happen To Me?

Tue Nov 26, 2002 8:13 pm

To Granite,

So if I understand this correctly...

I almost always upload on the same day that I take the picture. Are you suggesting I upload 2 days before I take the picture.

That's an excellent idea, why didn't I think of that?  Nuts

I'll try that now... can you see it yet. Is it good, what do you think  Big grin
 
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RE: Why Does This Always Have To Happen To Me?

Tue Nov 26, 2002 8:26 pm

Pepef: Nice picture by the way. I love the whole winter atmosphere on this one. Amazing! Must have been cold, huh?

Ivan
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RE: Why Does This Always Have To Happen To Me?

Tue Nov 26, 2002 8:44 pm

Heads we loose, tails we also loose...  Angry Its either too many pictures accepted each day, or too long a wait for screening!  Nuts

Actually, you know what really happens...

We deliberately hold pictures back until there's some from the screeners waiting to go onto the datbase. Then we open the floodgates, making sure that the screeners pictures are on page one and two where they're more likely to be seen, and all the rest drop down onto lower pages where they're less likely to be noticed.

Yeah right, of course we don't! No doubt the conspiracy theorists suspect that synister actions such as this are behind it all, but just to reitterate... This is just a joke - it is not what really happens!

Andy
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RE: Why Does This Always Have To Happen To Me?

Tue Nov 26, 2002 8:45 pm

Peter, that's a WONDERFUL shot! Terrific! Amazing  Wow!

May I ask, what equipment you used for that?

Regards
Gerardo
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RE: Why Does This Always Have To Happen To Me?

Tue Nov 26, 2002 8:53 pm

At the same moment that they get added to the db they add at least 200 other pictures, so my pictures get buried on page 9, and nobody scrolls that many pages and actually sees them.

Peter,

Two more things:

1. If you scan the database every day, you'll soon appreciate that the really special new uploads do get noticed, even if they're buried several pages down. Some people do look through all new uploads (at least the thumbnails) and once a picture starts to get more hits than the average, it becomes self-sustaining through the "most popular" pages. Examining the hit rates on really good stuff a number of pages down will prove my point.

2. Your picture is already at over 300 hits despite only being accepted today and being nine pages down. Part of this may be down to the "seft publicity"  Big grin here, but 300 is higher than normal and this also goes to prove point 1 above.

Andy

PS: I'm glad I don't live in Helsinki - looks far too cold for my liking!
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RE: Why Does This Always Have To Happen To Me?

Tue Nov 26, 2002 9:14 pm

Peter

We have a Finish guy here in Copenhagen.

He tells me about a drink called Finish Coffee.

I think that could be your problem, you may have had to much.

Kitos

Colin
 
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RE: Why Does This Always Have To Happen To Me?

Tue Nov 26, 2002 9:30 pm

To skymonster:

You are mostly right of course. I also know there are other photographs and photographers on pages 9 and 10 ...
I don't mean I haven't been fairly treated and didn't mean to complain as much as get an answer to the question "can anything be done?"

To Gerardo:

I have the D60 + 28-70 L and 100-400 L

And to Ivan:

I sometimes envy those guys posting from St. Maarten  Big grin
 
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RE: Why Does This Always Have To Happen To Me?

Tue Nov 26, 2002 9:58 pm

Pepef: I can imagine  Wink/being sarcastic

Ivan
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RE: Why Does This Always Have To Happen To Me?

Tue Nov 26, 2002 11:25 pm

I have a great idea.

The airlines and airports have scheduled landing/takeoff slots assigned. A.net photographers should be able to book upload slots in advance for when they want to upload new photos.

Of course page 1 upload slots will cost much more than page 9 slots. Also there should be peak usage slots at a further additional charge.  Wow!

Frequent photo points will also be awarded for uploads booked 14 days in advance. Double upload points for the red-eye specials.  Nuts

Steve  Big grin  Laugh out loud
 
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RE: Why Does This Always Have To Happen To Me?

Wed Nov 27, 2002 12:04 am

Seems to happen to me too, I don't like it but you just gotta take the rough with the smooth!

As with your picture, I didn't even see it when I checked the new uploads.

hmppffhhh.
 
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RE: Why Does This Always Have To Happen To Me?

Wed Nov 27, 2002 8:24 am

EGGD is right Pepef. Have to take the good with the bad.

Not so long ago, when Johan did all the "screening" himself, there were large volumes of uploads at a time...and very long dry spells in between.. imagine being on page 20 whatever... Its much better now in terms of what you are worrying about.

Of course there was an exception to this...but..I won't even go there...  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: Why Does This Always Have To Happen To Me?

Wed Nov 27, 2002 3:04 pm

Pepef,
I'm just a moderator, but that's one amazing shot you have there on Nov. 20th during the de-icing! That's a great shot in terms of color, sharpness, and the content of the photo! and I hope to see a lot more shots like that in the future!

Now only if the shot had a picture of a few exotic cars...  Smile
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pepef
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RE: Why Does This Always Have To Happen To Me?

Wed Nov 27, 2002 5:13 pm

Turns out I've gotten more views for this picture than for any other. So Skymonster was right.

I recognize a good picture when I see one, was worried that it will get buried, but it didn't. So I'm happy, and won't be so worried next time this happens.

I didn't understand the post about the Finnish Coffee though, care to elaborate? I'm guessing it's Irish coffee without the coffee or something similar?

-Peter-
 
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RE: Why Does This Always Have To Happen To Me?

Wed Nov 27, 2002 5:37 pm

Congrats on a good picture Peter, i think its was boosted by this forum posting.

Finnish Coffee?
Well the guy down here tell me you put lots of vodka in your Coffee. That could have explained your posting at the beginning.

Colin

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