planedoctor
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Any 1D Shooters Out There?

Fri Dec 13, 2002 10:35 am

I know this camera may be overkill for aviation photography alone by some standards (and I'd agree with Joe Pries that the D60 may be the best DSLR for the job/cost ratio Big grin) but I was wondering if anyone shoots aircraft photos with a 1D. I have only managed to get a few aircraft shots with mine recently- hopefully I'll be able to get out over the holidays and get some decent shots.

In an earlier thread I promised Joe Pries (I don't know if he remembers or not) a 600mm shot with a 1D. This was taken at ISO 500 at 728mm (560mm x 1.3) and then processed with Canon's software to EV +0.3 so it is really closer to ISO 700. Otherwise it is unaltered from the original RAW. I am not proud of the shot in the slightest- it is dull and rather uninteresting to look at. Nor is it at the ISO I wanted to get to compare to Joe's ISO 100 shot. But there it be until I can get get out to get a better one to compare to the smooth CMOS! (I really do like the CMOS butter look, but I do think the 1D has the edge on out-of camera sharpness even if it lacks the smoothness). There are some things about the 1D I am trying to decide if I can get used to. Is is definitely heavier than any camera I've owned. The software is the most cumbersome I have dealt with yet, and the controls are a little different than the D30, which takes some getting used to. I guess it just comes down to learning the tool that you have.

http://www.pbase.com/image/8776677/original

-Ken

PS I do think the D100, S2, and D60 make great images, all of them. I'm just throwing the 1D into the mix here as another player.
 
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RE: Any 1D Shooters Out There?

Fri Dec 13, 2002 10:46 am

Ken,
excellent discussion piece, but I cannot respond as I do not want to bore people as per the below:
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Username: PUnmuth@VIE
Posted 2002-12-13 01:26:58 and read 24 times.
This whole Canon / Nikon thing is getting really boring by the time
Peter


 
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RE: Any 1D Shooters Out There?

Fri Dec 13, 2002 10:58 am

Joe,

I saw that earlier  Smile So maybe it's not everyone's favorite topic. My topic was really meant to see if any uses a 1D and to see if I could share compare notes with them. The Canon v. Nikon argument is just about as old as the Bible itself, and it does no one any good making others feel like their brand is inferior. With all of my liking of Canon, there are plenty of Nikon things I like, such as having Nikkor lenses usable with Nikon, Fuji, and Kodak cameras. That way my glass wouldn't be restricted to just one brand. I have Canon glass so I cheer for Canon all the way! That's really the only reason.

In the basic sense it is boring to compare Nikon to Canon, but I like to think of it as seeing what different cameras can do. User competence is highly irrelevant in these discussions! Big grin

-Ken
 
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RE: Any 1D Shooters Out There?

Fri Dec 13, 2002 10:58 am

Ken,
I played with the 1d in the shop as well. Man that thing sounds like a machine gun when you hold the "trigger" down! Even the salesman was smiling as he was letting them rip behind the counter.

I honestly considered it, but it was too much for me at this time of year. I had just bought my wife a diamond bracelet for $3500 prior to buying my D100. I mean how convincing could we have been begging for food on the corner with those two things hanging off of us...? And I think my daughter still wants to go to college next year.

But, that is one 'monster' camera for sure.

v/r
Jeff
 
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RE: Any 1D Shooters Out There?

Fri Dec 13, 2002 11:11 am

Ken,
I was just kidding, ofcourse i'll respond pal. Lets wait though till you get a shot that better reflects the output of the 1D as the one you have above is just a test/trial shot which is does not warrant a constructive discussion.

Joe
 
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RE: Any 1D Shooters Out There?

Fri Dec 13, 2002 11:19 am

Hi!
Thanks for promoting my posting Joe,  Smile/happy/getting dizzy all i wanted to say:
If its constructive its not getting boring but I read always the same and this way it is getting boring and leading to nothing. Its the same as Fuji versus Kodak or screeners versus uploaders or levelded eye versus unleveled eye  Smile/happy/getting dizzy or Palestine versus Israel or Europeans versus Americans or Boeing versus Airbus (the last three not in this forum). Always the same arguments being repeated from each side and no final solution (which is fine) because each to his own.
Am i making sense? Anyway ...
... Just my 1 € cent
Peter
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RE: Any 1D Shooters Out There?

Fri Dec 13, 2002 11:24 am

That's what I am hoping for, Joe- some good weather that coincides with some time off!  Smile I knew you were kidding- my explanation about Nikon v Canon was for anyone else that might see me as trying to pick a fight with Nikon folk!

Jeff,
You make some good points that hit close to home! I don't think anyone can drop the money for a 1D without at least some careful thought. My wife has been very supportive of me getting the 1D, although I haven't bought her a $3500 bracelet this year  Sad I have often considered selling my newly acquired 1D and getting a D60, but we shall see... I'm glad to see you are a man with a strong sense of priorities. When you have the money, but buy something for you wife like that- that is a good example I think some of us can benefit from (me included).

-Ken
 
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RE: Any 1D Shooters Out There?

Fri Dec 13, 2002 11:28 am

Peter, indeed the canon vs nikon discussion is tired, but some facts nontheless:

It is mostly cheek-in-tongue (meaning we are breaking each others shoes, we dont necessarily believe everything we write and its amusing at times)

people learn from these idiotic threads- they absolutely do because these guys email me and thank me for bringing things they did not know to light.

Lastly, I truly enjoy showing Mike and Vasco that CMOS is the 900 poung gorilla whether they like it or not

Joe

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