qantas744
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Advice On These Three Rejects.

Sun Dec 15, 2002 10:38 pm

I just had these three knocked back, they are all fairly similar and were all rejected for 'badscan'.

http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=rjxh1212i.jpg
http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=rjxe1212.jpg
http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=rjxd1212.jpg

If anything I thought they might get a badsoft message but to be honest I'm not sure what to do with them-are they worth working on? If usually only resubmit pictures where the reject message is specific and the problem can be solved easily, and I've not yet tried a resubmission on a badsoft or badscan reject.

Any help gratefully recieved!


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RE: Advice On These Three Rejects.

Sun Dec 15, 2002 11:02 pm

My god...the standards must have went up a notch if these didn't make it. Seriously. Are there a lot of shots of this particular aircraft in the database?

No picture is perfect, and yes, I could be really nitpicky and call out a few things about your pics - if anything, they are a *touch* soft, but they are by no means "bad scans". Take a look at the reg and trailing edge of the tail in the last shot - slight degradation, but nothing serious (IMHO).

Try sharpening them up a bit (but be careful of that last one - you may actually make it worse), and try again...
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RE: Advice On These Three Rejects.

Sun Dec 15, 2002 11:06 pm

They are slightly soft, so apply a little USM and they should be acceptable.

As far as I know, thats probably the reason why the screeners rejected it (it could have been better).

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RE: Advice On These Three Rejects.

Sun Dec 15, 2002 11:46 pm

Matt, I have a feeling that part of the reason your shots were rejected for ‘badscan’ is that they are taken in the winter with a low sun and low light. This results in a in a tinted and dark photo that, in fact, may reflect what you actually saw that day. Despite that, you may want to try to:

1) knock off some of the redish tint
2) adjust the gamma a bit to increase the brightness and/or increase the contrast a little.

As far as the standards…

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RE: Advice On These Three Rejects.

Sun Dec 15, 2002 11:57 pm

Nice shots Matt. They look good. Too bad airplanes are no longer the focus here though...

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RE: Advice On These Three Rejects.

Mon Dec 16, 2002 2:17 am

Well I've already used gamma to brighten up all the pictures from that day-yes it was dark but D30's have a tendancy to produce dark results. But I'm not so sure that is the problem because I had this one accepted


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and it was taken under the same conditions. I suspect it's more a case of needing some USM as I deliberately held back a bit with USM after having a couple of 'Badjagged' messages last week!


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RE: Advice On These Three Rejects.

Mon Dec 16, 2002 2:24 am

OK, I'll have a punt into this one as I was responsible for rejecting one of your pictures - the good news for me is that I didn't reject them all, so we screeners must be thinking alike!!!

I'm sorry but all of the pictures you link to show some signs of badscan - particularly of jpeg compression particularly noticable around windows and words. The one I did reject, the Star Alliance pic, also shows a lot of noise in the darker colours, both on the airplane and in the background.

As to a fix... Maximum quality, no compression, and knowing that you're using a digital SLR shoot at the lowest film speed as my own experience suggests that the higher you set the film speed the more likely you are to get low quality results.

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RE: Advice On These Three Rejects.

Mon Dec 16, 2002 2:34 am

No need to apologize Andy, I'm really not going to lose any sleep over this!

I just find it difficult sometimes to be sure of what the fault is, and if I can see where I'm going wrong then I know better for next time and I can hopefully improve my standards bit by bit.

Thanks for your input though.


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RE: Advice On These Three Rejects.

Mon Dec 16, 2002 3:14 am

I still had them on the memory card so here are the technical details,

G-RJXD ISO200 1/250 F9.5
G-RJXE ISO200 1/250 F9.5
G-RJXH ISO400 1/500 F8.0

I do try and avoid ISO200/400 but on winter days it is sometimes required when using a zoom lens.


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RE: Advice On These Three Rejects.

Mon Dec 16, 2002 8:37 am

"ISO400" wow Matt, you really went out to sea didnt you  Laugh out loud
Last time i used ISO400 on my F707 the results weren't great  Sad
Still, nice shots  Big thumbs up
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RE: Advice On These Three Rejects.

Mon Dec 16, 2002 11:12 am

That's what happens when you go north of the border-you lose the ability to operate a camera!! Mind you it was pretty dark, and zooming at 200mm doesn't help!

Worse than that was that glorious sunny day we had on Monday, I went out to shoot take offs from LHR 09R and got home to find I had shot nearly 100 pictures in bright sunshine on ISO400 :-( I had been doing some railway photography the previous day and had to use ISO400 but forgot to reset it (I'm still not used to having to do that!) and the two hours I spent freezing to death on Monday were a complete waste of time!

If the sun ever comes out again I'll try and remember to use ISO100 Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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