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Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Tue Jan 21, 2003 4:47 am

Sam!

You did it!

Again...

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Photo © Sam Chui


...what a photog...  Big thumbs up

Johan (Ljungdahl)
 
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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Tue Jan 21, 2003 4:58 am

damnit, you beat me to it Johan, guess I wasn't paying attention (I went into the civil aviation forum and then decided against it, so I deleted civil_aviation in the address bar and replaced it with aviation_photography, thus bypassing visiting this forum).

Ah well  Sad
 
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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Tue Jan 21, 2003 4:58 am

Indeed a great shot!

This one was great too!


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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Tue Jan 21, 2003 9:21 am

Good god that's frightening, if I were on that flight I'd be s**ttin bricks at that point. Awsome shot!
 
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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Tue Jan 21, 2003 10:07 am

Hi Johan

Thanks for the plug here  Big grin Just wake up in Bangkok hotel, a nice morning sweet gift to me!!

hehe I will comp you back someday  Smile

It was my 1st time to Phuket and god the place, setting and spot are just heavenly perfect, anyone with a 200mm about will do just well as I do and I have a few more good one to come!!!

The Domodedovo shows a real moment of tense and struggle! I really thought it won't make it at one stage! ....coz I was almost at 3/4 end of the Runway, and the thing just still rolling with NO sights of rotate at all!!!! But it did get airborne right at the end of the runway. I suppose it carried all Russian jetsetters back all the way to Russia. Earlier the day, there was a Kras Air in TransEuropean Color IL86, he went to Utappo, and took 3/4 of the R unway too, HKT have a 3000 meter runway I believe!

I also remember seeing an IL86 take off from Rwy 20 in Barcelona, Marlo Plate said they did that a lot and it is really scarey to see they finally airborne at the very end!

I saw the following in HKT on a 2 day weekend there 18-19/1

Domodedovo IL96
Kras Air IL86
Novair A332
Finnair B757
Condor B753
Lauda B763 Daily
China A300, B738
FAT MD-90
Uni Air MD-90
Orient Thai B747 x2
Cambodia Sky Eyes AN-24
Malaysian b737
Silk Air A320
Bangkok Air All colorful B717, ATR72s
Privatair B737-700 HB-IIP
Thai everything except the MD11


About every 20min or so averagly, you get a plane there, not too bad, weatherwise condition is lot better than Bangkok, without haze and pure soft blue sky.

Sam

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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Tue Jan 21, 2003 10:24 am

Sam,

I will be free on the 7-9th. Where are we meeting???? Denver? Vegas? SLC? Email me!

Royal
 
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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Tue Jan 21, 2003 10:28 am

Sam,

How was security? I remember seeing armed guards along the entire north perimiter of the airport.

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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Tue Jan 21, 2003 1:16 pm

Sam, excellent photo! I was on my way to make a thread when I saw 2 already.

Hope we can meet up in ANC this summer, D100 action here would be simply fatastic!

-Dmitry
 
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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Tue Jan 21, 2003 5:53 pm

THIS PHOTO IS FAKE.
I'm 99,9% sure.
just compare it http://www.airliners.net/open.file/312682/L/
and this one http://www.airliners.net/open.file/183755/L/
both photos show what is supposed to be the same rwy end (RWY27) and on IL96 photo you can also see "27"
But now compare:

1) totally different shape at the end of runway - on 757 landing you clearly see that rwy extends to the left and right for 180 degrese turn and lineup, but on IL96 photo rwy extends only to only side.

2) count the white parralel markings just before digits "27" - on IL96 photo there are 6+6, but on 757 photo it is 5+5

3) the shadow from IL96 is not realictic enough

4) VASI approach lights supposed to be around 200 meteres from each other, while on IL96 takeoff you can see them quite close.

This is nice fake but still fake.
 
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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Tue Jan 21, 2003 5:58 pm

Oh Boy... Let the games Begin!

 Wink/being sarcastic

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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Tue Jan 21, 2003 6:11 pm

B744F,

Gimme a break!

Show the rest of us, some of your own photographic skills here, cuz I don't think that you know what you're talkin' about!  Nuts

This one is real, and I'm 100% sure!

Geez...

/Johan (Ljungdahl)
 
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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Tue Jan 21, 2003 6:14 pm

I'm not photographer (but have 1 or 2 pics here however),
I'm asking the questions. Even forget 3) and 4) that's could be due to lens and lighting - but 1) and 2) are still valid. Explain me - and I will take my words back.
 
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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Tue Jan 21, 2003 6:17 pm

Hmmmmm about 1) and 2):
There are 2 years between those shots. And in 2 years there could have been some construction on the Rwy. Think about it
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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Tue Jan 21, 2003 6:22 pm

Sam is an excellent photographer.

I don't think he would ever do things like this. His pictures are already so good that he doesn't need fake pictures to be popular.

Like Peter says, maybe construction works or so?

Regards,
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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Tue Jan 21, 2003 6:23 pm

B744F wrote:

I'm not photographer (but have 1 or 2 pics here however)

Copyright violation, then?

Q #1 and #2: ever heard about construction work? From time to time buildings, train stations, roads and even airports change shape. The AY B757 approach photo was shot in 2001, it's 2003 now...

/Johan (Ljungdahl)
 
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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Tue Jan 21, 2003 6:33 pm

I've just scanned CURRENT Phuket chart http://www.hot.ee/aviation/vtsp.gif
Sorry for bad quality (paper in Jeppesen manuals is almost transparent) however rwy27's stopway shape is clearly seen
 
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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Tue Jan 21, 2003 6:45 pm

B744F,

Give it up before your respect rating decreases from zero to some negative value.

Andy
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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Tue Jan 21, 2003 6:51 pm

Skymonster,
Huh, is that the normal way of discussion here to press others relaying on "rating" and asking "show us your photos" when you have nothing to explain the valid points.... "Gimme a break!" - I don't need respect of such people... I'm politely asking for explanations and will take my words back if I'll got them.

p.s. just seen your reply in nearby topic on the same shot.. could you imagine that someone is not wasting time here to earn "rating" but earning money doing the real things? I've been a quite frequent visitor here some time ago, but not the last year... You can trace my messages, dates and topics I'm participated at..........
 
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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Tue Jan 21, 2003 6:54 pm

B744F,

You have got your answers about the end of the runway!

...now...

I believe that many people here, including me, wonder how you can see if a photo is real or not, when you've admitted not being a photographer?

I am waiting for the answer of yours...

/Johan (Ljungdahl)
 
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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Tue Jan 21, 2003 6:56 pm

Or the Finnair cockpit shot is fake  Big grin

Let the investigation begin Big grin

No, serious, B744F: Sam's picture clearly is not fake. It just looks too real...

/Frederic
 
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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Tue Jan 21, 2003 6:59 pm

Nope, the answers are not right - even if there was a construction work recently it hasn't changed the rwy end config and you can see current official chart I've provided.
OK. that's enough. the truth is somewhere else, leaving you all now for a while.
 
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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Tue Jan 21, 2003 7:01 pm

OK B744F, you asked...

I'm not even going to check into the issues you raise to justify your claim that the photo is fake. I don't need to. There are some people who contribute photos to this site who in my opinion simply wouldn't risk their reputation by doing such a stupid thing as faking a photo like that. Sam is one of those people. Instead of making accusations in this forum, why not ask Sam about the picture? If, having insulted his integrity, he's still prepared to talk to you, I suspect he'll explain the photo to you.

Andy

PS: Notice I underlined the words "in my opinion", and yes, it is only my opinion. However, given that I am a screener here, my opinion does have some impact on the acceptance process, albeit not that I screened this picture.
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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Tue Jan 21, 2003 8:05 pm

B744F,

Firstly, look on Sam's (very nice photo) and check how the left border stretches across the runway markings.

Secondly, now look on the other photo and understand why you can't see the turning area, because it's too far left to be seen in Sam's picture.

Then you can decide whether an apology is suitable or not.

Staffan

 
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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Tue Jan 21, 2003 8:57 pm

B744F,

do you lack the need of attention!?
For someone who can't state anything about yourself in your profile, I put very little value in what you write.
What are you occupation for ex.? It sure must be something involving pro. photo, right?
Or do you maybe design and build rwy's?
Or is it simply that you had to get everyone started cause Sam got alot of credit for a great photo?

"The truth is out there".
When in doubt, flat out!
 
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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Tue Jan 21, 2003 10:01 pm

Who volunteers to bury this guy? Smile

Nuff said!

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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Tue Jan 21, 2003 10:29 pm

Hey guys,

Got to go easy on him. Perhaps he's suffering from the after-effects of all the war thats been going on in his home country (Afghanistan)... speaking of which, didnt know they had Internet there Big grin

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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Tue Jan 21, 2003 10:31 pm

Staffan, OK - I agree it could explain why turning area looks different on two photos. I'm not 100% sure but at least it is first reasonable one.

However 2) is not cleared yet. And for those of you who are not familar with technical things: number of these white parallel markings depends of how the runway is WIDE. If it was 5+5 in 2001 but become 6+6 these days it means that rwy became wider. To that it is easier to built new runway. I'm not quite sure but I would bet there was no runway full reconstruction in last 2 years - it is just too expensive.

Sudden, I see no reasons to publish all my details in profile. I'm working for airline at management level. This partucular photo was referenced at one other aviation forum and caused a lot of discussion there, and I was not the first one to doubt if it is a fake or not, other aviation professional questioned it as well. May be I wrong, may be I should not bet for 99,9% but 60% sure.
I almost quit a.net forums some time ago - just lost an interest to read 500 times the same topics, but still visiting it to see the photos - most of them are really nice and I would like to thank all contributors - well done!
 
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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Tue Jan 21, 2003 10:52 pm

B744F - you have accused a reputable photographer of fakery based on an obvious lack of photographic knowledge - your "photographic" evidence is easily explained by angle of view and telephoto effects. Your only other basis for this accusation is 3rd hand information of the runway concerned.

Looking at the old picture of this approach, and Sam's pic, I notice that a) the older pic shows a considerable margin either side of the painted runway border and b) Sam's pic shows the 6th bar right up along side the border (unlike the 5th bar in the older shot). Could it not be that the runway has been "widened" simply by adjusting the the borders? Indeed, I would suggest that the 2 pics show the runway has in fact been resurfaced - possibly some strengthening was applied at the edges to permit the "widening".

But even if you were correct about this particular point, could it be that the photographer simply entered the wrong airport data? Most of us have done that at one point or another. It does not make the photograph a fake, simply mis-captioned.

I have no idea what the end of the runway at HKT looks like at the moment. I AM certain this image has not been faked.

Unless you have some concrete evidence to back up your claim, you should immediatly, and publicly appologise to Sam. The onus is on YOU to prove your point.

Cheers,

Colin
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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Tue Jan 21, 2003 10:54 pm

B744F wrote "other aviation professional questioned it as well."

So you do actually think you are a pro on the subject.
If you would be a pro you would have approached this in a more civilized way.
As a pro you sure know how to express yourself, right? You are after all working at management level!?
So if you wouldn't have the backup from the other pro's I guess you would not have made an issue on this.
Which site are you referring to? The one that start with a J and ends with a etphotos.net?
Would like to read what these pro's are writing about Sams photo.
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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Wed Jan 22, 2003 2:10 am

B744F,

even if you were right (it has clearly been proven that you're NOT), why would Sam add a sixth white line and a false runway end to his shot?  Laugh out loud
What would be the purpose of this "fakery"?

Can you please provide the URL of the "one other aviation forum" (it is not on jetphotos.net)? I would be quite interested in this discussion.

As this accusation of fakery is only based on a official chart (when was it released, btw?) and on a lack of photographic knowledge in my opinion an immediate and public apology is required in this case!


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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Wed Jan 22, 2003 2:29 am

Last thing I thought could happen to this thread!

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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Wed Jan 22, 2003 3:44 am

There's no need for an established photog like Sam to alter his shot to this extreme. It would only question his skills and reputation if he did so... what you see is what you get, a great shot.

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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Wed Jan 22, 2003 1:28 pm

I am a pilot and I do know that for each 50' of runway width on a runway with a precision approach (such as the one pictured)... they put 1 bar on either side of the numbers (i.e. 2 bars total). So a runway like the one pictured would be 300' wide (12 bars total * 25' each bar). OR on the older picture the runway would be 250' wide.

Note that this is in the USA... all measurements are in feet (cuz we 'do it different'  Smile).... and I have no clue whether it is a fake or not... all I know is it is a bad a$$ shot!
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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Wed Jan 22, 2003 1:34 pm

Oh and I just noticed the chart said the runway width is 150'... so I guess just divide everything I just said by two :P... shows what I know ahaha
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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Wed Jan 22, 2003 1:37 pm

typical punk. Causes a shit storm and then "leaves us for a while"

Jealousy is an ugly thing.

I'm not sure who is more miserable, this guy or the yo-yo that rates all these posts as one star.
 
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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Wed Jan 22, 2003 2:12 pm

I was in Phuket to undertake some photography (Dec 2002) and at that time, the runway was indeed being re-surfaced . . . and the markings were being re-applied.

The image (a great one in typical Sam Chui's tradition) does seem to make it look like the aircraft had little or no asphalt left at rotation . . . but remember that the IL-86 rotates and climbs most gently. Consequently, it would have lifted off a bit earlier but remains very very low due to its shallow climb rate.

What a beautiful shot . . .

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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Wed Jan 22, 2003 2:21 pm

I suppose someone has to learn that the world is not perfectly level, not perfectly 'spherical' for that matter...

Maybe a little about telephoto compression (or whatever the technical photography term is...)

And if runway reconstruction didn't happen because it was "...too expensive," who is to say they didn't resurface and paint with narrower bars? (Or are they standardized?) One never knows what can go on in two years.

Regardless, I still think this photo is *genuine.*

One thing is for sure, this is one of those right place, right time moments :0)

Keep them coming Sam!

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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Wed Jan 22, 2003 2:25 pm

Sorry for the double post, but might I add...

Sure, the VASI lights are 200 away from the end of the extension...feet. The top scale is in increments of 200 feet. Meters is given on the bottom...

Wasn't this imperial vs. metric thing what caused that one Mars probe blunder?  Innocent

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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Wed Jan 22, 2003 3:13 pm

Damn... Some take words too seriously from the internet. Honestly, whos going to believe that photo is actually fake? No need to argue about it with someone who doesn't even mention anything in their profile. Just ignore- otherwise you'll be wasting your breath (these fake topics pop up every day it seems!)

Also whats with the cheap slams at jetphotos.net nowadays?

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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Wed Jan 22, 2003 5:47 pm

" was in Phuket to undertake some photography (Dec 2002) and at that time, the runway was indeed being re-surfaced . . . and the markings were being re-applied."

STRRIIIKE!!!!

So where did Mr. B744F go?
Ran out of defensive lines maybe.
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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Wed Jan 22, 2003 5:55 pm

Sorry about the very late reply, I am in Beijing now, and sometimes you cannot always get wired when travelling.

B744F

This shot in NO WAY it is fake, I shot a 6 shots series on my D100, I still have it in my CF and laptop, and I will provide you all 6 shots and more on slides to prove later. I will upload all 6 later to my site and provide a link to here.

For the runway markings, I have no idea with 5 or 6 markings, I also never take notice of those thing, and further I know the shot is a real shot as solid as gold, I am not making any effort to debate and argue about the non-proven statement. I have also never did any rotation trick on the photo, the plane just climb very gently and took the whole runway, thats all and the end of the story. I am so amazed someone think this is fake....

I am an Airliner Magazine official staff photographer and have been around the circle of aviation photographers for sometime now, which I will NEVER provide a fake shot to get credit, and to jeapodise my good reputation.

I demand an appology here.
Sam Chui
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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Wed Jan 22, 2003 6:13 pm

Ok here is the 5 shot series (not 6 , took slide in between with slide camera)

I would like to thank everyone here who think my shot is genuine, in fact the shot is just straight taken out of my D100 and onto the laptop and resize, USM thats all I did.

Seriously, if one shot a good one, why would always someone claim it is Fake or unreal WITHOUT BEING STAND NEXT TO ME, TAKE THE SHOTS TOGETHER, and if the judgement is from using a 2001 photo to backup, against the latest shot in 2003, it just not the same. But please think again, before making a bold statment, you are also damaging my reputation here. Use your real name before you want to say anything here. I am more than happy to provide you all info within my bounds if you are using your real name.

http://samchuiphotos.com/HKT1.jpg

http://samchuiphotos.com/HKT2.jpg

http://samchuiphotos.com/HKT3.jpg

http://samchuiphotos.com/HKT4.jpg

http://samchuiphotos.com/HKT5.jpg


If link doesn't work, try add 'www' in front of them.
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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Wed Jan 22, 2003 6:15 pm

Sam - I think only B744F had the crassness to question your photography - I doubt you'll get an apology from him ... but I wouldn't worry about it too much. He has been exposed here as a fool and I'm pretty certain that his reputation has taken a much bigger hit than yours by his posting!

There will always be a few armchair experts who think they know it all and would rather criticise the work of others rather than experience and learn things for themselves. In this forum, they are beneath contempt.

Personally, I would take it as a compliment - a shot so good, someone couldn't beleive it  Smile - and it is BTW, a great shot - I can imagine the tension you must have felt watching that threshold getting close. And as for the crew ... change of trousers all round?  Smile

Cheers,

Colin

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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Wed Jan 22, 2003 6:30 pm

Hey Colin

I am cooling off now, was just thinking to go out here and run around couplt laps to cool myself off, it is -10 degress with lots of snow on the road here  Smile

I don't know how B744F think of me, to be honest, I do NOT have the skill and knowledge to add a 6th line onto the photo, nor do I have the reason to do that.

I will take this now, as a compliment, I believe only good shots arose attentions here.

Thanks for everyone stand out for me, I am very touched!  Big thumbs up

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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Wed Jan 22, 2003 8:04 pm

Sam said: I will NEVER provide a fake shot to get credit, and to jeapodise my good reputation. I demand an appology here. But please think again, before making a bold statment, you are also damaging my reputation here.

Damaging reputations... Upsetting long-established and reputable photographers... That, my friends (and moderators of this forum), is why unfounded topics about fakes SHOULD BE LOCKED OR DELETED.

Andy
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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Wed Jan 22, 2003 8:28 pm

I understand where you are coming from Andy, but perhaps this thread indicates otherwise. Sam's picture was vindicated, I don't think his reputation has been damaged, and the person who made the accusation has come out looking like a complete prat. Had the thread been locked after the inital post, there may have been some lingering doubt in some people's minds - by letting it run the matter has been, I think, thoroughly clarified, Sam has seen something of the level of respect he has here, and possibly others will think twice before making an accusation and risking public humiliation.

I don't say it always works out this way, but in this case, I'd say it's a good result

Cheers,

Colin
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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Wed Jan 22, 2003 11:01 pm

Sam, the other photos are impressive too - how much time did you spend faking them all?  Big grin
Now seriously, how close did the aircraft get to the trees?

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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Thu Jan 23, 2003 1:21 am

Sam - I'd upload 3 and 5 too, very interesting pictures!!

 
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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Thu Jan 23, 2003 10:32 am

So, I suppose it's illegal from now on to even mention the word fake on this forum if the photographer has a) a certain respect rating, b) more than 100 or c) the person who brings the topic has no pictures?

I know it's frustrating when your own work is passed on as being fake, but if a person has some valid points (heck, he even said that he wasn't 100% sure) it's worth explaining that person how the work came about.

Oh, and finish to off, this post is another reason as to why the respect rating should be dropped - and preferably replaced with a system like the one used on /.

Ah well, who would listen to me? I have a 0 in respect rating  Insane
 
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RE: Thanx Sam, For Sharing Your Action Shots!

Thu Jan 23, 2003 10:43 am

"THIS PHOTO IS FAKE."
"I'm 99,9% sure."

No he didn't say he was 100% sure.

He could have asked, "has this runway been widened?" and "are you sure this is Phuket, since there is no turnaround area at the end of the runway?" and "Aren't these lights a little too close together?" and "Doesn't this shadow look a little strange? How come?"

But instead he yells out FAKE! as if he had the news story of the year, something that pisses people off bigtime!

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