Carlos Borda
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Birds Of A Feather...

Fri Jan 24, 2003 10:01 am

Just scanned two slides of a JFK Bird Patrol member for any of you who are interested in these beautiful airport raptors. Not exactly sure what kind this one is, but I know the trainer told me it was a Hawk. Enjoy... ~Los
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RE: Birds Of A Feather...

Fri Jan 24, 2003 10:07 am


Nice shots. I need to get out there again soon!

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RE: Birds Of A Feather...

Fri Jan 24, 2003 4:44 pm

A very nice bird

This summer i had the opportunity to see these birds in a natural reserve park show, unbelieveable the way they fly and the speed they get.

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RE: Birds Of A Feather...

Fri Jan 24, 2003 5:51 pm

Very nice indeed.

Shame animal rights people here banned the use of falconeers on airports, claiming the noise from the aircraft engines is bad for the animals...
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RE: Birds Of A Feather...

Sat Jan 25, 2003 2:25 am

Those look like Peregrine Falcons to me. I have a friend who has several and trains them for hunting.
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RE: Birds Of A Feather...

Sat Jan 25, 2003 3:53 am

The second one is beautiful!
Great pics!

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RE: Birds Of A Feather...

Sat Jan 25, 2003 8:32 am

Check out this guy going for a snack of chicken...

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RE: Birds Of A Feather...

Sat Jan 25, 2003 9:42 am

Nice shots Carlos... you're getting a head-start on

I would've guessed Falcons too. Imagine they'd love to get their claws into some of those rabbits running around the runways at EWR.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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RE: Birds Of A Feather...

Sat Jan 25, 2003 1:22 pm

Jwenting said animal rights supporters banned falconeers in his part of the world. I may be stupid - so please help me out here. In this instance they believe noise is bad for the birds? So, in effect, the animal rights supporters are saying they would rather see thousands of problem causing birds flocking around airports?

To all the "animal rights supporters" in Jwenting's part of the world - I think it is wise to have a few Falcons suffering ear damage as opposed to thousands of birds who could cause aircraft mishaps...

If the noise factor is of such alarm - at least the Falcons are smart - even if they can't hear. The trained Falcons will drive all the other potentially problem causing birds out of harms way...

I don't know - sounds like these particular AR people have too much time on their hands...

Oh, I can't wait for the answer - some "know it all" animal rights activist is gonna tell me that a deaf Falcon cannot do the job -

Yeah - right...

And if the sound levels are really so hard on a birds ear - why the hell do all these birds flock around airports ?

Please - "Animal Rights" person (PETA) or whoever - Preach nonsense...
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RE: Birds Of A Feather...

Sat Jan 25, 2003 1:59 pm

The Falcons are effective and work well.

I doubt that the alternative would suit PETA well.

The Airport in Sand Point, Alaska is located on the water, about a mile and a half off the end of it is a couple of Fish processors and the boat harbor. Needless to say these facilities and the cliffs that are off the other end of the airport are a Seagull magnet. In the early 1980's Reeve had a YS-11 that suffered multiple birdstrikes and ended up touching down short, causing considerable damage.

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So it came to pass in the summer of 1996 I helped offload a shipment of 75 cases of 12 gauge shells off the daily flight in Cold Bay. Those shells where going to go to Sand Point, where the state, which had obtained a permit from FWS, where going to kill as many seagulls as possible.

Like I said they had 75 cases, each case holds 10 boxes of shells, and each box had 20 shells in it. That gives you an idea of how many birds they wanted to destroy(or how bad of shots they guys that work for the state are  Big grin "
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RE: Birds Of A Feather...

Sat Jan 25, 2003 11:34 pm

Nice shots!
I'm not familiar with North American Birds of Prey, but it seems to be a Hawk of the Buteo family.
It looks nothing like a Peregrin Falcon, that's for sure.
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RE: Birds Of A Feather...

Sun Jan 26, 2003 10:23 am

Thanks guys... glad you enjoyed those. And Jan is correct, that one is definitely a Hawk and not a Falcon. In fact here's two shots of a white Falcon (also not sure what kind it is) I took on that same day. This bird is smaller than the Hawk... in these the Falcon is seen snacking on some tasty Quail he received as a treat after his training session.

Truly amazing seeing these birds of prey up close flying around their trainer doing hovering, swooping and diving maneuvers. And all along NOT one single Sea Gull or Rabbit in the area... they run for cover when the Raptors are present. The big three airports here have a pretty big bird problem in the spring/summer/fall months due to the close proximity to water... aircraft safety comes first before animal activist around here. The three airports also use air cannons to scare off birds and rabbits...

Here's one more shot of the Hawk... love those big talons! If any one knows exactly what kind of Hawk and Falcon these are please let me know... TIA. ~Los
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RE: Birds Of A Feather...

Sun Jan 26, 2003 2:32 pm

Interesting! We used some fake owls and hawk statues in our big hangars when I was in the Navy. They were mounted up in the rafters above our planes so pigeons, doves, etc would not fly in and crap all over the planes when in for maintenance. Bird dung is a bitch to clean out of the cockpit of a Tomcat....!

Nice shots Carlos.!


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