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Selling Photos To Magazines, ...

Mon Feb 03, 2003 1:44 am

I need your help!
For example: I have taken a few very good an interesting photos; and now I want to sell it to a Magazine or an Airline,.....

1) How much money can I expect for a photo?
2) How can I contact the Magazine or whatever, for telling them that I've something for them???  Confused

Hoping for answers.

greetings, Florian
 
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RE: Selling Photos To Magazines, ...

Mon Feb 03, 2003 2:30 am

Florian,

What are the interesting photos of?

Jeff
 
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Mon Feb 03, 2003 8:03 am

For a magazine, maybe $25 per photo. For an airline it just depends on what they would use it for (one time usage, or if they bought it out right and owned the copyright, which means they can use it for whatever they want for however long). I'm sure most airlines have their own professional photographer they hire.
 
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Mon Feb 03, 2003 3:16 pm

Jeff:

For example this photo:

http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?1044204538:INN

Do you think it is good enough for example the Innsbruck Airport Newsletter?

greetings Florian
 
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RE: Selling Photos To Magazines, ...

Mon Feb 03, 2003 3:32 pm

Hi Florian.
You mean an official newsletter of Innsbruck airport or a newsletter of the local enthusiasts club?
If its the first one i dont really think its interesting for them. Monarch isnt really a rare airline or new at Innsbruck or are they new this season? So in my personal opinion it wouldnt be interesting for them sorry but try it anyway. Mail them a preview in a lower resolution and note that it is only a preview and that you can provide it in high quality and you will see. You never know.
Good luck
Peter
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RE: Selling Photos To Magazines, ...

Mon Feb 03, 2003 9:15 pm

No,
1st: Monarch is the first season at INN -
2nd: I've also some pics from Titan BAe 146 or BA 734 wich are also new this year.

How much money can i expect for them?

greetings. F.
 
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Mon Feb 03, 2003 11:02 pm

How much money can you expect from this shot?

$0

The quality isn't there.
 
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Mon Feb 03, 2003 11:48 pm

Hi Florian!
Nice photo with the beautiful scenery that we know from INN, _but_ if you want to sell photos to someone [or even better: before taking photos that you might want to sell someone] you should first of all think what interest he might have in wanting this particular shot.
And, I am sorry to say, but I see no reason for the airport to buy this picture because it mainly shows the mountains and not a particular aircraft.
Besides that I think it will be quite difficult to sell them photos of their own airport, because if they want to have some, they will send out an employee to take the shots.
And furthermore I have to agree with Clickhappy

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Tue Feb 04, 2003 12:41 am

I see a kind of obsession for money.

Not the best attitude, relax pal, concetrate yourself on doing what you like, I hope you like aviation photograpy.

Luis
 
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Tue Feb 04, 2003 1:05 am

I'm with Luis on this one, don't rush it.

For magazines your best bet is to contact them regarding their usage terms, usually they pay 20$-20£ for normal usage. The ones I contacted asked me to either send them slides, or previews on a cd and they'd ask for high res scans when they decided what to use. In my opinion, if you haven't got alot of intersting stuff, it's not worth spending hour after hour scanning, if in the end they only decide to use one or two shots..

For other commercial usages, it's quite difficult, since most of them have their own photographers, and the ones who don't try to beg photos for free of sites like this one.

Regarding quality, if the publisher only wants to use a small image, even stuff scanned on a flatbed will be good enough.

Staffan
 
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Thu Feb 06, 2003 4:52 pm

If it was that easy, all of us photogs here would have done the same already!
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Fri Feb 07, 2003 12:28 am

Hi Florian:

I see that you are young, so please look at this as a learning experience. I will try to offer you some constructive comments for future photography.

The photo simply doesn't have the quality required for commercial use. Please note that the aircraft is heading "downhill" towards the right. Rotate the image 2 degrees CCW and it will become square.

Next look at the levels. It is very flat in tonality, especially the mountain in the background. It needs some "snap" to really look good. I adjusted the levels and also locally adjusted the contrast on the mountain and it started to look much better.

Now stop thinking like a photographer and start thinking like a magazine or newspaper editor. Magazines do NOT buy photographs. What they buy is a good STORY told with a photograph. Magazines are not in the "eye candy" business but are a news source and images must have a news value to be of interest to them. The higher the news value, the more they will pay, even if the quality was not the best. Example. Look at some of the photos (taken from video feed) of the Columbia disaster. Not the greatest technical quality, but DYNAMITE news value. See what I mean. So I ask you this question.... "What makes the Monarch photo unique"? Is it a new airline to INN? Is there a financial story about the airline that needs to be illustrated? Ask yourself "WHY" they would want to both use the photo, and pay you for it. You need a "hook" or a reason to sell them the photo. For example. I have sold photos to magazines/newspapers for as low as $25 to a high of $5000.oo which is an incredible range. And the $25 photo was actually of better technical quality, but the 5G photo was stunning news value although technically inferior. It was also an exclusive and of a situation that could never be repeated by anybody else. At least highly unlikely as someone had to die for me to get the photo.

One other way to sell a photo is to also write a story (news or feature) to accompany the image. Sell the whole package. If you can't write, then find a local reporter who writes on aviation issues for the local paper. Find out what stories he is working on for future use and then try to take photos to illustrate his stories. Do this on speculation basis and maybe you will get lucky. It's not an easy road to take, but you have to start small and grow from there.

Hope some of this gives you some thoughts on moving forward. But I also must say that Luis made a very noted comment. You seem obsessed by money. Forget money. Become passionate about great images. Become obsessive about telling a super story with a photograph. The money will follow.

Steve
 
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RE: Selling Photos To Magazines, ...

Fri Feb 07, 2003 4:05 am

As an extremely amateur photographer (this question is directed to the more experienced)...do you guys send your stuff to the periodicals constantly without being asked, or do they sorta browse a.net and other sites for photos and come to you...I always thought it was the latter..

I have a possible follow-up question but I'd like to see a few replies before I post that as it may depend on what the answer is...

Thanks,
Greg
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RE: Selling Photos To Magazines, ...

Fri Feb 07, 2003 6:25 am

it depends...
you can lay down lazy and wait for contacts to come (which has been the case for me with an A340 Turkish Airlines in Soccer World Cup c/s) but if you have something on hand and think 'hey, this is hot...' it is always veeeeery useful to contact the magazines directly. Chances to get a photo published do get higher by doing so [but think before sending them your stuff as they might get annoyed by getting to much rubbish].
At least this is what I as a 'no-one knows my name' is doing  Big grin

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