LHRSIMON
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MCO Re-open Spotting/photo Facility

Tue Mar 04, 2003 5:36 am

I emailed MCO yesterday to see if there was any possibilty that i could use the terminal top parking when on holiday in Florida , if i produced documents. This was due to the fact that on the main website it stated that "spotting was not allowed until further notice".It is with great pleasure that as of today (and the website) i received the following answer.

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You will be glad to know that Aircraft Spotting has just been reinstated at
Orlando International Airport. Please see the information on our web site
at www.orlandoairports.net/goaa/faq.htm#aircraft_spotting

Jerry Harris
Webmaster/Research Manager
Marketing Department
Greater Orlando Aviation Authority
Orlando International Airport
(407) 825-3133
www.OrlandoAirports.net
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What with FLL reopening its looking good again. Thats if nothing changes mind you !!!!!

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RE: MCO Re-open Spotting/photo Facility

Tue Mar 04, 2003 5:45 am

That is great news!

I just hope that good will on the part of airport operators spreads west to IAH one day.

Thomas
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RE: MCO Re-open Spotting/photo Facility

Tue Mar 04, 2003 6:48 am

Excellent idea. i think every airport should do this. Even Houston. if they know who is going to be there then there should not be a problem.

Now, what can you see/shoot from the 9th floor of the garage? Anybody have an example of a shot taken from there? it would really bite if they gave people permission and then sent them to an area that allows poor view for pictures.

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RE: MCO Re-open Spotting/photo Facility

Tue Mar 04, 2003 7:09 am

Wow......

I guess I should have read the web site before making my original post. Seems like MCO wants to make spotters go through hoops in order to get access to just to one spot. I mean if filling out these forms allowed a spotter access to all of their old hangouts, then it would not seem so bad. However just one spot with medicore photo ops.....I don't know!

Oh well, I suppose it's better than nothing.

Thomas
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RE: MCO Re-open Spotting/photo Facility

Tue Mar 04, 2003 7:28 am

Now, what can you see/shoot from the 9th floor of the garage?

Nothing. It's all too far away. MCO can go F themselves. I'll shoot from all the regular spots, and there really isnt a thing they can do about it. It's still a public place, and this is still America. Besides, I'd like to see them tell an airline employee that they're not allowed outside an airport.

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RE: MCO Re-open Spotting/photo Facility

Tue Mar 04, 2003 7:37 am

I have no problems filling out forms etc I am ALL for that, but being limited to the 9th floor of the parking deck is a crock of steamy poo. You can WATCH the planes from up there but that's about it. The only way to spot here is to get an airline job, and even then I'm sure they would still hassle you.
 
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RE: MCO Re-open Spotting/photo Facility

Tue Mar 04, 2003 8:02 am

Well i thought it was a step in the right direction... And at least it's showing a bit of give and take on their part. Im not sure what hassle you photo guys get arround the perimeter to cover your side of things,but im more into the old fashioned number/spotting so im more than happy with the car park. Good view of everything to log.....

All MCO needs now is a Photo area like FLL then were all happy.

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RE: MCO Re-open Spotting/photo Facility

Tue Mar 04, 2003 8:16 am

All MCO needs now is a Photo area like FLL then were all happy.

Yea, that's something that's not gonna happen. MCO seems ready to break off from the US and form it's own communist society.

It's kinda personal for me cause it was one of my home airports, and I have so many good memories there. Seeing that fence on McCoy Road was like looking through a prison fence.

Lemme email MCO and tell them how much I appreciate them "allowing" me to do something perfectly legal on public property.  Insane

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RE: MCO Re-open Spotting/photo Facility

Tue Mar 04, 2003 8:26 am

I am writing Jerry about my thoughts, and hopefully he can FWD it to the right people. Restricted to the parking garage is garbage.
 
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RE: MCO Re-open Spotting/photo Facility

Tue Mar 04, 2003 8:29 am

I gather from your reply that you get problems arround the perimeter then ??? I often feel how you do with regards being treated like some sort of criminal up to no good,when im on public land doing no one any harm. But its the same here in London, if you get the wrong security chap on the day there no point trying to argue with him. And if you complain it just makes it worse. At least if im spotting up on the car park at MCO (after getting the pass) and some jobsworth comes up to me , at least i have a little piece of paper that tells him to sod off and go bother someone else.....

These are trying days for the spotter and photographer alike... Do birdwatchers get this sort of crap !!!!
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RE: MCO Re-open Spotting/photo Facility

Tue Mar 04, 2003 8:44 am

Dazed767. Lets be sensible about this. There no point getting up their nose when they don't have to do this. They could have kept the Level closed just like they have at LHR, and say sod the plane photo/spotters. OK the Parking level is no good for you guys but for spotting its great. And at the end of the day they at least they had the decency to email me back and confirm the new policy. You try getting a polite answer like the one Jerry Harris sent me out of LHR security !!!! At least the airport is not on lock down like LHR.

This system is nothing new for MCO. As far as i am aware this system has been in place for quite a few months (Passport etc etc and can only view from level 9). It was only when you went to code orange that MCO stopped any spotting. Once again they have only gone back to the system already in place. And i again stress they don't even have to do this...

LHRSIMON

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RE: MCO Re-open Spotting/photo Facility

Tue Mar 04, 2003 9:33 am

So wait, you couldn't watch from the parking garage????? Oh big deal, you can't see anything anyway. You guys should come over to TPA. We've had NO restrictions since 9/11.
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RE: MCO Re-open Spotting/photo Facility

Tue Mar 04, 2003 9:40 am

Yep did TPA last year but from the airside departures as flying back to the UK. And yes your right i had not problems with my bino's & camara spotting & taking photo's for 3 hours !!!
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RE: MCO Re-open Spotting/photo Facility

Tue Mar 04, 2003 10:13 am

There is a parking lot at Delta Air Logistics, great to take photos at by runway 17. Twice I've been told to leave, or that the Police are on their way to investigate (investigate what!?). I think the Use of Facilities Form is a great idea, but it shouldn't be limited to just the 9th floor of the parking garage (that's what I included in the email). I also pointed out that FLL has a viewing lot and MIA has holes in the fence for photographers, and that MCO should have something like this. We don't get as much visitors spotting at this airport like FLL/MIA, but I've seen groups of Germans taking photos, or British writing down tail #'s. The DAL parking lot is a great spot, and employee's can see you....if anything happens or someone is acting suspicious, they could contact authorities.
 
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RE: MCO Re-open Spotting/photo Facility

Tue Mar 04, 2003 10:32 am

Be sure to drop a line to the airport administration thanking them.

A little positive reinforcement now may make them less likely to get stupid in the future.
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RE: MCO Re-open Spotting/photo Facility

Tue Mar 04, 2003 10:33 am

Dazed767,

Let me make clearing about at MCO airport and is that was no restrictions at the airport property either. You will still used shooting with the pictures again at MCO and when you will able coming down there to FLL/MIA again? Well, talk ya later!

Regards!

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RE: MCO Re-open Spotting/photo Facility

Wed Mar 05, 2003 8:57 am

Well, the hoops they make you jump thru is kind of a pain, but that's better than nothing.
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RE: MCO Re-open Spotting/photo Facility

Wed Mar 05, 2003 9:52 am

He said thanks for the comments and he'll pass it on. I pretty much said it is a poor location for "serious" aviation photographers. That local airports such as FLL and MIA have viewing areas which accomodate spotters and photographers and is a good location to get close to the action. But I did start the letter saying I was glad to see they are out to help spotters. We'll see what happens.

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RE: MCO Re-open Spotting/photo Facility

Mon Mar 10, 2003 12:29 am

I agree w/NonRevKing, F-MCO, the 9th floor is absolutely useless for photography.
We can all thank MCO's Ken Harwood, Airport Security Threat Prevention Manager, a major paranoid schizophrenic who pushed all these restrictions forward, also enlisting the aid of the Mayor's office. He even went so far as to try and tell us that it is illegal to log registration #'s and that terrorists can use your photos to study methods of attack- what crap!! With all the info they are requiring for a parking lot observation pass, why isn't this sufficient enough for a pass to use in areas better suited for photography?

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