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When Is Nikon Coming Out With A New Dslr?

Fri Mar 07, 2003 2:50 pm

Hello guys!

Just thought I would ask if Nikon is making a new DSLR in the near future? Doesn't seem like there is any movement after the D100?

Any news?

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RE: When Is Nikon Coming Out With A New Dslr?

Fri Mar 07, 2003 4:26 pm

Nikon are going to create a new, value for money contender for the Canon DSLR's....yea, like Saddam Hussein will diss-arm Big grin

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RE: When Is Nikon Coming Out With A New Dslr?

Fri Mar 07, 2003 6:39 pm

Well, I'm guessing they won't - or at least not a DSLR based on 35mm technology. I think they're simply going to licence stuff to Fuji and Kodak in the short term, and continue producing the Coolpix range. Then they will introduce something totally new, probably based on the new Kodak/Olympus 4/3 standard. I have no knowledge of this, pure speculation and deduction but consider:

1 - Nikon has stuck with essentially the same lens mount for decades - it is a "feature" to ensure backwards compatability, however, it is fundamentally limiting ... it simply can't handle the data flow required in modern cameras. This is why Canon did the infamous FD/EF mount switch - and clearly it has paid off. Nikon have reached the end of the road with their current system.

2 - The 35mm based system is less than ideal for digital - which is why the full frame sensor has been so difficult to produce - even the expensive 1Ds has some quality issues with wide angles at the edge of the picture. If Nikon are thinking about changing lens mount, why not go the whole hog and change the camera format - since no film is involved, there are no legacy issues associated with working with film manufacturers.

3 - Nikon has partnerships with Kodak, Kodak is partners with Olympus on the 4/3 format.

4 - I really doubt there is much profitable space for Nikon in the DSLR market at present. Canon, Fuji, Sigma and now Pentax would seem to have it covered - anything Nikon produced would be pressured price wise, and the profit margin small.

In short, I expect nothing from Nikon in the short term ... but then, look out  Smile

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RE: When Is Nikon Coming Out With A New Dslr?

Fri Mar 07, 2003 10:00 pm

Colin, spoken like a true Canon fan  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

I think that Nikon will introduce a new DSLR this year (again pure speculation). Nikon is not as big as Canon and can’t dump the kinds of dollars into R&D that Canon can. For example, we had to wait a long time for the F100 but it was well worth the wait.

I can’t see anything fundamentally limiting about the Nikon mount. Can you explain that more? Nikon has added features to the mount like the contacts for built-in lens electronics and removed obsolete features. The common lens mount has helped me out over the years by allowing me to gradually upgrade instead of tossing out an entire system to get a new one.

I’m not sure that the 35mm format is the main reason for the lack of full-frame sensors. It’s more of a yield issue with the CCD… the more pixels you have the more chances of having bad pixels and a useless sensor, thus driving up the cost of the remaining good ones. The same used to be true about LCD panels for laptops and flat-panel monitors. As manufacturing technology got better and demand went up, the prices dropped to the point where you can get an LCD panel almost the same price and a CRT.

Nikon’s D100 CCD sensor is rumored to be a Sony sensor. Kodak uses Nikon hardware but I’m not sure which sensor they use.

I’m patiently waiting for the F100 level DSLR from Nikon… it’ll be here sooner if not later.

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RE: When Is Nikon Coming Out With A New Dslr?

Fri Mar 07, 2003 10:11 pm

And you have the price issue. Canon, with the 10D, are selling it for ridiculous money against what the D60's, D30's and D100's were being priced at. And with the better lens range will would-be Nikon digital buyers be switching over to Canon. I think the 35mm market is becoming over saturated anyway. I mean it's good to have choice and competition but Nikon needs either a cheap working full frame DSLR or something else to try and make an impact back in the digital market. Also aren't the Fuji DSLR's cheaper than the Nikon's and take the same lenses?

Could be a simple price issue that keeps Nikon out of the 35mm DSLR market.

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RE: When Is Nikon Coming Out With A New Dslr?

Fri Mar 07, 2003 10:38 pm

Not sure about relative sizes - don't forget Nikon has a HUGE committment in "specialist" optics (eg. medical) - hell, even my eye-glasses have Nikon lenses! I doubt Nikon R&D is by any means limited.

With regard to mounts - its a combination of bandwidth and power supply - esp. the latter - the reason Canon is able to do USM, IS easily & cheaply is that the various camera functions are located in the part of the camera that does the work - Canon cameras are dependent on having a lens full of motors and electronics to provide full functionality ... the Nikon approach makes advanced functionality much more difficult, but less restrictive in choice of lens. Canon decided to abandon legacy support sometime ago, for which they received much criticism from dedicated FD users (like myself) - but, as a long term strategy, it may have been a wise decision.

CMOS/CCD - yes, size and yields are one factor, but the other is that neither sensor reponds well to light hitting it from an angle. Provided that sufficient density can be acheived and noise issues are put to one side, a smaller sensor should provide better image quality at the edges than a large sensor. This is the weak point of the 1Ds - while offering the promise of true wide angle performance, many reviewers have found edge quality to suffer when using ultra-wide lenses.

I don't think we will see a digital F100. Apart from lens compatability issues, there is absolutely no reason why digital should remain shackled to the 35mm format - and many good reasons to move to another format - look how innovative the Coolpix series has been. Canon made the decision to abandon a lens mount many years ago - I'd suggest Nikon has even stronger reasons for doing so now as they would be in a position to produce an optimised digital camera and lenses, and steal a huge chunk of market back from Canon, who are clearly solidly committed to the 35mm based format for the forseeable future.

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RE: When Is Nikon Coming Out With A New Dslr?

Fri Mar 07, 2003 11:11 pm

Heard last year that Nikon is waiting for the next generation CCDs, probably the 14MP fullframe 35mm CCD that's under development by Kodak will find its way into the next generation Nikon DSLR.

Nikon, unlike Canon, doesn't believe in releasing a complete product range every 6 months.
If it ain't broke don't fix it is their strategy which rewards Nikon users with superior products and support (no "sorry sir, but that camera is 2 years old, we no longer carry spares for it. But we can give you a nice deal on this new one here").

The Nikon lensmount isn't limited because it's old. It's been enhanced greatly over the years, maintaining backwards compatibility so users can keep their old lenses and use them (with limited function of course) on new cameras.
It's not meant to provide forwards compatibility which would be a severely limiting factor as with that they'd still be stuck with manual focus lenses without aperture control by the camera.

As a sidenote, Nikon is licensing their lensmount and part of the electronics to Fuji for their line of DSLRs allowing for more sales of Nikon lenses.
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Fri Mar 07, 2003 11:18 pm

Near future for Nikon chould be around next iceage.  Big grin

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RE: When Is Nikon Coming Out With A New Dslr?

Sat Mar 08, 2003 2:31 am

LOL, you Nikon guys are very defensive  Smile - I'm not even bashing them!

If Nikon do what I'm suggesting, they will leave Canon in the shade in a couple of years, with a new system with huge potential for development. Why is it so hard to accept that a technology which has at least 40 year old roots might just have a few issues?

As for the much vaunted compatabilty issue, well yes, most lenses sort of work on most bodies, but any Nikon manual I've ever seen seems to have an enormous list of exceptions and special conditions - "Some lenses cannot be attached to the F90"; "Set shutter speed to 1/125 sec. or slower"; "only on Tuesdays when facing in a Northerly direction".

By changing mounts, Canon was able to create a totally integrated system in which there are few exceptions to the rule, and even interfacing items like teleconvertors or bellows causes no problems - Nikon have struggled, and sometimes failed, to make everything work with everything, which I think has prevented, delayed or made very expensive new innovations such as IS, ultra fast lenses, full time manula focus overide etc. - there are still things Canon can do that Nikon can't - eg. auto optimum depth of field calculation.

In sticking with the basic F mount, Nikon kept a lot of existing customers happy, but the trade off was a development handicap. The fact that Canon bit the bullet and abandoned the FD mount is largely responsible for Canon eclipsing Nikon by the 90's in almost every field where Nikon had dominated through the 60s, 70s and into the 80s. Nikon need to do something dramatic to get the pendulum swinging back again.

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RE: When Is Nikon Coming Out With A New Dslr?

Sat Mar 08, 2003 3:00 am

Colin,
you have a wonderful way with words. You seem to utilize the enlish language to its fullest extent, your words are rich in character. My favorite is the last bulletpoint though  Big grin

-any Nikon manual I've ever seen seems to have an enormous list of exceptions and special conditions - "Some lenses cannot be attached to the F90"; "Set shutter speed to 1/125 sec. or slower"; "only on Tuesdays when facing in a Northerly direction".

-Nikon have struggled, and sometimes failed, to make everything work with everything, which I think has prevented, delayed or made very expensive new innovations such as IS, ultra fast lenses, full time manula focus overide etc. - there are still things Canon can do that Nikon can't - eg. auto optimum depth of field calculation.

-The fact that Canon bit the bullet and abandoned the FD mount is largely responsible for Canon eclipsing Nikon by the 90's in almost every field where Nikon had dominated through the 60s, 70s and into the 80s

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RE: When Is Nikon Coming Out With A New Dslr?

Sat Mar 08, 2003 3:15 am

I am going to order a 10D after the intital rush dies down, to do some side-by-side comparisons.
 
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RE: When Is Nikon Coming Out With A New Dslr?

Sat Mar 08, 2003 3:25 am

thadaboy Royal, i knew i'd get you do the right thing one day. Next victim is Sam, he's due for a conversion, he's just at the threshold of "ok ok let me just do it and take the abuse". Then Art. Mike and Carlos are going to stick with nikon even if kills them- hey, you can't change everyone

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RE: When Is Nikon Coming Out With A New Dslr?

Sat Mar 08, 2003 4:00 am

Nikon digital is behind, which is why I bought an S2. Besides, I would hate to give up my superior Nikkor glass in favor of the "white" variety...  Big grin

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RE: When Is Nikon Coming Out With A New Dslr?

Sat Mar 08, 2003 5:45 am

Royal, is that a change over or just to compare and pic the best? That should be interesting to watch!
Wish I had that spare cash to at least buy one!

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Sat Mar 08, 2003 5:46 am

I can see your position Aric - that Nikkor is a good investment for the antiques market  Smile

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Sat Mar 08, 2003 6:00 am

Dmitry - I'm not really sure. It won't be spare cash that I will use, but I need the best I can get. If Canon does produce better results I would be stupid to continue to ignore the results of others.

We shall see.
 
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RE: When Is Nikon Coming Out With A New Dslr?

Sat Mar 08, 2003 6:04 am

Royal, you are making alot of people very nervous the way you're talking. None of those people own a CMOS driven supermachine though.

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RE: When Is Nikon Coming Out With A New Dslr?

Sat Mar 08, 2003 6:18 am

What exactly has the 10D got that makes it better than the D100?

Joe: no one is getting nervous because you guys are merely speculating, time will tell what's going on with the cameras, until then unless the cameras offer something new a lot of people will stick with what they have.

Will the 10D fix the D60 flaw that all the photogs are bitching about?

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RE: When Is Nikon Coming Out With A New Dslr?

Sat Mar 08, 2003 6:36 am

I think the 10D will be more of everything the D60 is:
- more bugs
- more automatic manipulation in camera
- more P modes
- more
- more
- more
- more urge to get the next version when that's released  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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Sat Mar 08, 2003 6:39 am

i dont understand, i've had my D60 since last april, have shot many many images with it and never had any of these "flaws" that photographers are bitching about and i never even did the firmware update. Royal is a knowledgable guy, apparently there are some outstanding issues with his current setup if he's looking at the D10, no nikon owner simply looks at a major changeover (body/lenses/etc) unless there are major issues he's facing. As far as what the 10D has got that makes it better- you're asking the wrong guy since i think the D60 is better and the 10D improves on the D60  Big grin

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RE: When Is Nikon Coming Out With A New Dslr?

Sat Mar 08, 2003 6:47 am

As a player in the f vs d war I must say...

1. DSLR users seem to have actually more costs than the film users as changing a camera every now and then (especially the Canon users  Big grin)

2. Both my Nikon F80 and F70 work with no bugs at all, how come  Laugh out loud

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Sat Mar 08, 2003 7:39 am

Exactly, Colin...Built to last.  Big grin
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RE: When Is Nikon Coming Out With A New Dslr?

Sat Mar 08, 2003 7:46 am

Hey Joe,
I saw a nice article on you in one of the popular aviation magazines the other day. A good read, I enjoyed it!

I think what Royal is considering is something a lot of photographers are thinking about. Notice I didn't say Nikon users.....

You know I am a huge fan of the Canon d60 cmos chip. I had the money, had it's big brother the 1D in my hand, and almost bought one until I found out first hand about the poor low light focusing. Something I needed for other then aircraft shots. The D100 "fit" what I needed, and works very well in all situations I've used it in.

If the 10d is all that they say it will be, and time will tell, then why wouldn't anyone consider buying it? It looks good on paper so far. Equipment comes and goes. Nikon does not own me, nor will Canon.

Looking forward to seeing just what the new kid on the block can do!

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Sat Mar 08, 2003 8:04 am

In all honestly, despite my favortism towards Nikon, I would probably be very happy with Canon. The only problem is, once you have thousands and thousands of dollars in lenses and other accessories specifically for Nikon, it wouldn't make any sense to jump to another brand. Canon may have a slight edge on technology and a few other areas, but none are so far ahead of Nikon that it warrants a switch, IMO. I don't think the technology gap is wide enough to see much of a difference between competing models (S2, D60, D100)...
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Sat Mar 08, 2003 8:14 am

I'm all about having the right tools for the right job. When I snowboard I pick from powder boards, a "fun" board, or a "cruiser" board. I have a sports car, a sedan, and a SUV. I'm not loaded, but I believe in having what I want. Who says you couldn't use Canon AND Nikon?
 
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Sat Mar 08, 2003 9:23 am

ADG - I think most of the D60 bugs were fixed with firmware upgrades. The 10D appears to address some of the more fundamental problems, most importantly, a much improved AF plus a host of minor desirable enhancements, which while not worth trading up for are certainly worth having. Noise reduction at high ISOs, for example, looks very impressive. This is not a revolutionary product like the D30/60, but it is a matured product and will undoubtedly set the bench mark for this sector of the market. The big surprise is of course the price - it is already retailing in the UK at less than the D100 was 2 weeks ago.

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RE: When Is Nikon Coming Out With A New Dslr?

Sat Mar 08, 2003 10:06 am

These conversations always degrade into n v. c wars... pointlessly.

We nikon folks were not becoming defensive in the least... instead, we are merely trying to ascertain some of the statements made.

I could easily afford both a nikon and canon setup, but I'm not a fool with my money (nor am I implying that anyone else here is). It's all about what makes you happy.. and photo skills.

I'll stick it out with Nikon for now, thank you!

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Sat Mar 08, 2003 2:07 pm

Colin,

According to the forum i'm reading Canon won't even admit there is a problem even though lots of people have the issues. Generally the complaints are coming from "commerical" photographers rather than those who work with smaller file sizes.

The fact that it will bring the price of the D100 down (currently $3600 and falling in AUS) is good news, I may even splurge and get the D100 if the price falls a little more.

A bunch of friends are banding together to try and get a good price on the 10D for themselves so i'm watching that price with interest.





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RE: When Is Nikon Coming Out With A New Dslr?

Sat Mar 08, 2003 4:46 pm

I also enjoy reading the N vs C wars.

I can't really comment on the DSLR's, because I don't have one - but when it comes to SLR's.  Smile

I would not want to part with my F5 for any reason - imo its the best Pro SLR out on the market, its simply bulletproof (like a brick)! If I dropped it on a Canon........you guys know what would happen to the Canon. Anyways I won't persist.

Basically they both are manufactuered by the Japs, so we know we are getting quality products from both!
Its the same thing as arguing over a Mercedes and a Bimmer (BMW) - I could argue all day that BMW is the BEST hands down!!!! At least for my type of driving!  Big grin

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Sat Mar 08, 2003 4:50 pm

Hej Joge, good of you to drop in.
I fully agree, my Minolta has worked without bugs for the last 20 years, and hasn't needed freshly charged batteries for the last 5 years.

I can just change to the latest CCD (oops, film) and have a new camera  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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Sat Mar 08, 2003 7:14 pm

Sunil - really I had not intended this to be a Nikon vs Canon debate (well, OK, who can resist the odd bitchy remark) but really a consideration of what has happened over the last couple of years, and what this might mean for the future.

I'm really not meaning to bash Nikon here - if I've made negative remarks on the Nikon F-mount, it is simply to point out why Nikon may want to change, and I think the parallel with the obsolete Canon FD mount is significant. I also think people are being shortsighted when thinking that there is no need for Nikon to change the mount.

Sooner or later, formats will change - once freed from the shackles of the 35mm film canister, cameras can evolve in interesting directions - all I'm saying, is that in Nikon's case NOW would be a very opportune time to do this - Canon and others will follow in time.

ADG - Canon are certainly not the best communicators, but, with the lastest firmware there are no outstanding operational bugs. I see many complaints in the forums about the D60 - some justified, some not. AF is, IMHO very poor for a camera of this price, and really inexcusable, but within its limits, works just fine. Many complain about exposure - esp. with ETTL flash. Frankly, much of this is user error - perhaps esp. from the pros - they are so used to working in their particular way with film that they have perhaps not been so quick to adapt their technique to digital.

I have personally encountered seasoned photographers who didn't know what a histogram was or how to use it, but complained at length about the difficulties of getting accurate exposure with a D60.

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Sat Mar 08, 2003 9:45 pm

I just saw this thread got 30 replies and no doubt I know Joey is start digging on Nikon again and hence the fun starts once again  Laugh out loud


Next victim is Sam, he's due for a conversion, he's just at the threshold of "ok ok let me just do it and take the abuse". Then Art. Mike and Carlos are going to stick with nikon even if kills them- hey, you can't change everyone


Comparision

Joe uses Canon Eos1
Sam uses Nikon F5

Joe shoots Kodachrome
Sam shoots Fujichrome!

Joe said D60 is good
Sam bought a Nikon D100

Joe recommends S9000 printer
Sam is thinking to buy Epson now.

 Big grin

Have we have anything we both agreed on? I am happy about Nikon, but I am not the smartest guy to use it to the best result. I have seen one of a kind stuff out of Nikon. Yes, I think Canon is easier to use, for dummies probably I should opt for it but I just couldn't be the same as Joe  Big grin It is unexplainably funny really why..........

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Sat Mar 08, 2003 9:49 pm

Royal

Further to your underperformed D100 is because you have the firmware 1.0 installed, you really need to send to Nikon do a firmware upgrade, the 2.0 Jpeg mode are sharp really, at least I am happy that I don't need to shoot NEF. I saw your camera the jpeg is soft. Just do a upgrade firmware (free? ) and see the resuly before going to 10D...

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Sun Mar 09, 2003 1:48 am

yeah but then I will be without a digital body for a week...

part of the reason I am a little unhappy with Nikon, to tell the truth.
 
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Sun Mar 09, 2003 2:09 am

"I would not want to part with my F5 for any reason - imo its the best Pro SLR out on the market"

You know this is not true D, ever heard of the EOS1V HSBig grin

I'm always wondering how Joe failed to convert you to use Canon Smile

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Sun Mar 09, 2003 9:42 am

I just love my F5....it is so fast, tight and weight that I won't even shake and blur the shot. It is a strongest built camera! Except I have problem with my cheapo 28-80mm lens giving me vignetting, I recently bought a Tokina 28-80 f2.8 glass, now everything is solved, the F5 stays with me, I am doing 70% on F5 and 30% on digital.
Dmirty--stay with the F5, trust me, I tried to give Canon a try, but I can't settle into that. If you have been use Nikon for a while, then nothing else you can settle in easily, just stick with F5.

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Sun Mar 09, 2003 10:34 am

Tim, ofcourse I have heard of the 1V, I have heard it fire - sounds good! We should have had a race with Joe when I was over there to see how fast we can get through a roll!  Smile What SLR body do you use?

I don't think Joe would really care if you shoot with an F5 or 1V, they are basically the same thing, except my machine has more metal!  Big grin
I doubt you'd ever see me in the Canon pool regarding SLR's, my F5 has worked flawless from the start, 11 rolls today at ANC - btw!

Sam, you got it man! I don't have any cheap lenses that Nikon makes (used to have the 70-300, but sold it), all 2.8 glass here! The 80-200f2.8 with a Kenko 1.4x converter (usually), and the Tokina 28-80 f2.8.

I was very skeptical at first to buy the Tokina, after reading all that negative feedback about Sigma, Tokina lenses, etc I didn't want to buy it. But, after hearing from a few guys that it performs just as good as the Nikon one, I told myseld why would I want to pay a grand and a half for the same thing!? Love that lense, all shots are pin sharp from edge to edge! So Joe, Tokina is good, don't know about Sigma.
Sam nothing feels better than holding a well-taken=care-of F5, nice and sturdy machine!

Anyways enugh from my side said.

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Sun Mar 09, 2003 10:44 am

So Joe, Tokina is good, don't know about Sigma.
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you know my take- i want nothing to do with either one of those or kenko or whatever other numerous 3rd market glass is available out there, its canon L lenses or i just shoot video or stay home. I put in my time with tokina and sigma and shed my tears looking at soft edged kodachrome pan am 747s from the early 90's.

 
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Sun Mar 09, 2003 1:47 pm

Tokina is good, but only the upper-echelon glass. I have a 28-70 f2.6-2.8 and it is actually sharper than a lot of my Nikkor short-zooms (and cheaper). The AF-S Nikkor equivilent is almost $1000 more and the only advantage I have seen is speed...
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RE: When Is Nikon Coming Out With A New Dslr?

Sun Mar 09, 2003 3:37 pm

Joe, its the lense Aric mentioned above. There is a difference between the $50 28-80 and the $500, and no way you could tell between to slides that was shot with the Nikon one and Tokina. I thought the same way, but after Mike told me they are good - I decided to spare a grand and go with the Tokina Lense, don't regret it a bit.

I'll send you some slides soon, you can take a look for yourself. And I am happy with the Kenko Converter, took a while for me to get used to it, but it produces 100% sharp images if I hold still!

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RE: When Is Nikon Coming Out With A New Dslr?

Sun Mar 09, 2003 4:18 pm

Ditto to Dmitry
I just bought 500 bucks or less a Tokina 28-80mm F2.8 it is fast, no vignetting and heavy but tight! I love it, and shame Nikon sell them so high for the same classes. My slide now looks just as good as the Nikon 80-200 f2.8 does.

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RE: When Is Nikon Coming Out With A New Dslr?

Sun Mar 09, 2003 6:58 pm

Enjoy it while it lasts guys!

You know it will no longer be a N vs. C was after July.

Pentax will have their DSLR out.

So now we will have a three way fight....


LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE!!!!




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RE: When Is Nikon Coming Out With A New Dslr?

Sun Mar 09, 2003 8:18 pm

I use an EOS33 Dmitry. Not top of the line but it gets the job done. Looking to upgrade to something heavier though.

Didn't know you used a Tokina lens btw, those shots look very nice!
perhaps something to consider for me as well.....

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RE: When Is Nikon Coming Out With A New Dslr?

Sun Mar 09, 2003 10:37 pm

D, Sam,
i appreciate what you say but for me personally, i only want something that says Canon L on it and the cost is not an issue because I use my equipment heavily and after a few years the initial cost turns out to be pennies a day.

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RE: When Is Nikon Coming Out With A New Dslr?

Mon Mar 10, 2003 7:18 am

I fully agree with you Joe! I am just starting to get known around ANC and about, if I get to shoot as much as you do and commercially, no doubt I would be ONLY shooting original equipment.

Tim, the results as you see are beautiful! If you have the extra grand or so go ahead, but I have a lot of different things I would invest that in! So thats why I went with the Tokina, looks nice a heavy with my F5 - LOVE IT!

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RE: When Is Nikon Coming Out With A New Dslr?

Mon Mar 10, 2003 2:33 pm

D-

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RE: When Is Nikon Coming Out With A New Dslr?

Mon Mar 10, 2003 2:42 pm

Yes. Dimitry.

I heard you where snooping around where I work yesterday.

Glad that you got on the ramp to take some shots but there was a discussion about company policy regarding unauthorized visitors.



Personally it is still too cold to take photos better wait untill may.
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RE: When Is Nikon Coming Out With A New Dslr?

Mon Mar 10, 2003 2:50 pm

Hey Shawn!

Oh is FS where you work at? Yeah I had a native guy escort me around, got one of the metros and one of the lears. Also got a couple shots of the Navajo.

So did my visit cause any problems? The guys who sit across from the lobby counter had no problem at all with me heading out on the ramp!

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RE: When Is Nikon Coming Out With A New Dslr?

Mon Mar 10, 2003 2:59 pm

No, it wasn't a problem.

It's a weekend none of the bosses are around......  Big grin

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RE: When Is Nikon Coming Out With A New Dslr?

Mon Mar 10, 2003 6:09 pm

So now we will have a three way fight....

Fuji, Nikon, Canon, Kodak .. third?

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