You know, i'm sick to death of this whinging from so called photographers. If you can't get a picture online you have to blame everyone but yourselves. Apparently it's easier for your egos to conceed that the screeners are corrupt rather than conceed that your pictures aren't good enough for the site.
This issue of screener corruption, or "inconsistancy" has been discussed time and time again. From memory, Johan brought in the "screeners" and removed the preferential treatment for the "travel listers" because of the whinging of the uploaders (and hangers on). Since then we've been subjected to whinge after whinge after whinge by the petty armchair screeners who think that they know more about photography than everyone else. After all they're "professionals" they tell us.
Well guys, build a bridge and get the hell over it. So you didn't get your pictures uploaded. So what? There are others out there who can produce better results in the opinion of the screeners given the criteria set by Johan
, rather than bleating about it, figure out how to get your pictures online.
Accusing the screeners of corruption is defamation and very clear breaches of the rules of the site, yet you continue to post them (and the moderators continue to refuse to delete them). What are you proving? NOTHING.
All I saw when I read the original post is a guy who doesn't take rejection well who is more willing to blame everyone else but himself for his problems. While i'm sorry to see any single photographer go, I think that there are others who are more willing to admit that they need to improve their skills who will step into their place.
The only issue with that is that there are petty minded individuals out there who take great delight in bagging these people out, or attacking their photographs in what I can only see as petty and ego boosting.
1. I am tired of the constant United States bashing in ALL of the forums. We cannot have a photography or civil aviation topic without it degenerating into a How America Sucks discussion.
If you want everyone to have the exact opinion you do, then go make your own site. Go and look at the moderators, there are many American moderators there, if they dont' remove these "anti-american" threads then the chances are that they are not anti-american. Additionally, there is a plethera of threads about countries that the Americans don't like. It's almost funny about how a few of the Americans are really the only ones bitching about anything anti-country.
2. I recently had an 85% rejection rate on a batch of 65 photos I submitted over a week's time. Few people on here have more photos than me. I think I know the quality standard here.
You complain about alleged "corruption" in the screeners ranks and yet you appear to be inferring you want exactly the same treatment you suggest occurs to others. It shouldn't matter how many pictures you have online or what you think you know about the quality standard, you are screened by the screeners just as everyone else is INCLUDING THE SCREENERS THEMSELVES.
3. I'm tired of the screener inconsistency. Not just a little inconsistency. A LOT.
Your opinion, and one you are entitled to. I dont' see a lot of inconsistancy, whilst there is inconsistency between screeners the individual screeners are very consistant in what they accept/reject.
4. My latest upload took over 3 weeks to be processed. During this time other users were bragging that their everyday, garden variety photos we're accepted and added to the database within 24 hours of submission.
Yes, this is an issue that should be investigated and amended. The queue should really be first in, first processed. That's the fairest way to go.
5. The screeners on this site have a real ego problem.
As, it appears, do some of the uploaders.
I do not believe these screeners use objective judgment in screening photos.
just as you perhaps don't use objective judgement when discussing your recent rejections?
Some of the screeners I have met out at the airfields I have genuinely enjoyed meeting and speaking with them.
so which is it? are they nice or do they have an ego problem? Or are you referring to individual screeners?
There are too many screeners that if I ever see you I don't want a God damn thing to do with you.
I am thinking the feeling is probably mutual now
6. The Airliners.net forums have become a major source of misinformation. Most users don't have a damn clue what they are talking about.
And there are plenty out there who do. But then, if you don't like the forums, why hang out there?
A lot of industry professionals used to frequent these forums and they were a good source of information. Sadly, they have left long ago. I guess they had a lower tolerance of bullshit than I do.
I don't disagree with the issues of the decent people leaving the forums, i've seen many of the better photographers refuse to deal with the forums any more and thus, all that expertise is lost. I'm sure it's the same with the other sections of the forums. Like many others, i've tried to raise this as an issue only to be told that it's the "prima donnas" that are the problem .. (yeah right!)
7. There are too many users who post that are rude and/or extremely immature.
What? Like accusing screeners of preferential treatment and severe inconsistancy? Like calling people imature and so forth? Fact is that there are rude and immature people on the net, just as there are in real life. The thing is that if a person is mature they can get past that. The kids of today will be supporting you in your dotage after all
Unfortunately, this is what the internet has brought us: A bunch of cowards who hide behind their computer. Airliners.net seems to have put the welcome mat out for these people.
Airliners.net is no different from any other site in this way. It has a history of banning users who consistantly breach the rules so I would have to disagree with your comments here.
8. There are too many users who play the role of antagonist on here. They have nothing of quality to contribute to the forums. Their only purpose here is to create discord. Topics which are of interest to many become very disinterested because of these people.
That's a matter of opinion. Whilst this is true at times, there are a multitude of times when the attitude you exhibit is nothing more than an anger that people don't agree with the person making the accusation. Again, one of the skills of a mature person is being able to weed through the crap to find the good stuff.
10. There is absolutely no way I will pay Airliners.net for the pleasure of visiting their website without annoyances. With the amount of time I have put in to this website, Airliners.net should be paying me.
Why should he pay you for giving you a place on the net to park your images? I do feel however, that you should have access to FC membership without payment for the effort you have put into putting your pictures online.
Between the screeners and the punk ass, immature 14 year olds that seem to dominate this website I have had enough. The quality of this site is such that I cannot tolerate or enjoy any longer.
You blame the screeners and yet the majority of your whine is about the forums, the screeners don't moderate
** reference: the term "you" refers to those here who are "like minded", not necessarily the individual who posted the original post **