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Canon 10D - Sample Shot Here (UA 777)

Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:16 am

Today was my first day to play with this beast. All I can say is WOW!!! Coming from an F707, this thing does way more than I had hoped. Lightning fast AF, 3fps, and ZERO noise. Here's an example (shot with a 70-200L f/4):

http://www.idsamichigan.com/IMG_0051.JPG

Note that this is not a RAW shot - but it is a JPG straight from the camera at the highest quality level. I'm a bit surprised that it's only 1.3mb...
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RE: Canon 10D - Sample Shot Here (UA 777)

Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:27 am

hmm,

Nice, I'll resize it down to 1024 but it looks really good there, albeit a little soft but still better than most of its competitors!!

Ok now i've resized it and sharpened it up. Look at the shadow detail!!! incredible, I have to get this camera  Laugh out loud
 
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RE: Canon 10D - Sample Shot Here (UA 777)

Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:27 am

Wow, great pic! must watch out from that camera  Wink/being sarcastic
 
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RE: Canon 10D - Sample Shot Here (UA 777)

Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:38 am

EGGD, can you show us the photo?

so the 10D is the latest camera based on the D60 with more functions and better quality he?  Smile
 
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RE: Canon 10D - Sample Shot Here (UA 777)

Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:39 am

Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out the focusing stuff (this ain't no point-'n-shoot), so many shots from today are *slightly* soft.

Here's a few more examples:

http://www.idsamichigan.com/IMG_0055.JPG
http://www.idsamichigan.com/IMG_0064.JPG
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RE: Canon 10D - Sample Shot Here (UA 777)

Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:45 am

WOW! The details are incredible! just look at the people watching out of the cabin... great camera and amazing shots!
 
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RE: Canon 10D - Sample Shot Here (UA 777)

Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:46 am

Well you are using an "L" lens......f4......which is a faster lens and better quality than simply a non-"L", so the glass makes a difference. I wonder what it would look like with a regular 75-300 like mine.

It's a very nice picture BTW.

question: why is it that when you down size a photo, like even mine when I go from 2160x1440 to 1200x800 it always looks better (sharper)?

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RE: Canon 10D - Sample Shot Here (UA 777)

Mon Mar 24, 2003 9:09 am

Very nice, what settings are you using on the camera?

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Mon Mar 24, 2003 9:28 am

Looking good, but one thing I noticed is some jaggies on some of the diagonal lines - especially the blue and red streamlines on the UAL scheme, and those jaggies really pop out when you go to sharpen it. Let's hope this is because of the jpeg compression  Big grin

Otherwise, this looks *amazing*

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RE: Canon 10D - Sample Shot Here (UA 777)

Mon Mar 24, 2003 9:48 am

makes me want mine more!!!!! STUNNING PHOTOS

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Mon Mar 24, 2003 10:11 am

When did you get the camera and from where ? Ritz ?
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RE: Canon 10D - Sample Shot Here (UA 777)

Mon Mar 24, 2003 10:45 am

737heavy wrote:
Very nice, what settings are you using on the camera?

Being that this was my first time out with the camera, I was trying all sorts of things. All of the EXIF info is still embeded in each of those images, and you can access it via your image editing program.

Fotodj wrote:
When did you get the camera and from where ? Ritz ?

I originally ordered it from Ritz.com, but they didn't get many cameras in their first shipment. So, knowing that it would take me forever to get one from them, I kept my eye on dpreview.com for places that had 10D's in stock. Last Friday (March 14), I managed to grab one at J&R. It was shipped to me on Tuesday of last week (March 18)! Screw Ritz...  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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RE: Canon 10D - Sample Shot Here (UA 777)

Mon Mar 24, 2003 11:37 am

I have the money and I'm going to get a 10D, but I WILL NOT get one until I get 50-100 photos in now!

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RE: Canon 10D - Sample Shot Here (UA 777)

Mon Mar 24, 2003 2:08 pm

Very nice! I can't wait until Pentax comes out with theirs- I'd love to see how they match up (when I can afford it I hope to buy a good DSLR- only to supplement good old film though  Smokin cool- but I suppose thats what everyone says at first.. heheh)

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RE: Canon 10D - Sample Shot Here (UA 777)

Mon Mar 24, 2003 4:31 pm

Dan, when you say a little soft please remember all canon DSLR's basic shots are soft on purpose so you can do more to the image when processing.

They may look a bit soft but it is sometimes hard to belive how much sharpening you can actually do to a canon DSLR image and it still look great.

These test shots look great, nice camera.

If I wasnt about to start a degree I woul get one but no way I can afford it.

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RE: Canon 10D - Sample Shot Here (UA 777)

Mon Mar 24, 2003 5:16 pm

Scott,

Thanks for sharing these shots.

I was contemplating on whether to spend more on the 70-200 f/4 L-glass, but these have confirmed my decision. Well worth the extra cash!

Look forward to seeing more images from you.

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RE: Canon 10D - Sample Shot Here (UA 777)

Mon Mar 24, 2003 6:02 pm

Scott,
Well I did order mine at Ritz, but what can I do now??
Did you cancelled your order, and then ordered in some other shop, which one?

BTW shots are great, I can't wait to get mine...

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RE: Canon 10D - Sample Shot Here (UA 777)

Mon Mar 24, 2003 6:04 pm

I am not trying to put down the photograph, and I am not a digital shooter, so I wouldn't know - but, isn't the UAL 777 way to soft, or is that normal for digital cameras?

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RE: Canon 10D - Sample Shot Here (UA 777)

Mon Mar 24, 2003 9:19 pm

Dmitry, Canon DSLR's are soft out the camera, this is a good thing, it means you can do as much USM as you want and it doesnt ruin the image.

Copy that image into pS7, resize to 1600x then apply USM, then see how flexable a canon DSLR shot is  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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RE: Canon 10D - Sample Shot Here (UA 777)

Mon Mar 24, 2003 9:23 pm

FL350:
Yes, I cancelled from Ritz without any problems. As soon as I had a tracking number from J&R, the order was cancelled.

Alaskaairlines:
Yea, I agree that the UA 777 is soft, but the other two examples I posted above are a better representation of what the 10D can do. Remember - I'm still learning about this camera...  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: Canon 10D - Sample Shot Here (UA 777)

Mon Mar 24, 2003 9:30 pm

Just to clarify before this gets out hand guys. Canon's images are not 'soft' coming out of the camera, they are unsharpened [or at least sharpened much less than the opposition]. This is so that you, the user can sharpen the image to suit your desired reproduction medium / size. This is a much better approach than aggressively sharpening the in-camera image as some digicam manufacturers do so it looks good 'out of the box' because sharpening is a destructive process. You are physically modifying the image irreversibly when you sharpen and each different target medium will require different levels of sharpening.

Much better to give you an unsharpened original and let you do with it as you like. [IMHO]

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RE: Canon 10D - Sample Shot Here (UA 777)

Mon Mar 24, 2003 10:04 pm

Oh aye, I was just saying it was unsharp in jest  Big grin.

Sorry for the confusion  Laugh out loud.

This is one thing I like about this camera's, I couldn't give a name but i'll call it the 'threshold'. When I have an image straight out of the camera there is only a limited amount of post-processing I can do before the quality of the picture starts deteriorating. With these DSLR images (and of course, the increased resolution), You can do a huge amount of fiddling with the photos and they still look good, which is definetely an advantage!!!

I just hope that now we have all these camera's that all photography spots don't start disappearing!!
 
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RE: Canon 10D - Sample Shot Here (UA 777)

Mon Mar 24, 2003 10:20 pm

Additional points on sharpening:

1 - the 10d default settings reportedly result in less sharpening than the D60 (hope to be able to confirm this later this week)

2 - if you want sharp out of the camera, you can alter the sharpening parameters on DSLRs - but reduce your post processing options

3 - I've had publishers request an unsharpened version as they are familiar with DSLR output and have sharpening methods tuned to their production requirements ... as more publishers become experienced with dslr output, I would expect this to become the norm.

Anyway, these samples look very promising indeed, in particular, the colours look very true, and UA aircraft can be a pain to get right.

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RE: Canon 10D - Sample Shot Here (UA 777)

Mon Mar 24, 2003 10:23 pm

EGGD wrote:
I just hope that now we have all these camera's that all photography spots don't start disappearing!!

No kidding! I just dumped a lot of money into this system, and it wasn't sure whether or not to go out to the airport this weekend (because of war/security issues). There weren't any problems, but it isn't fun looking over your shoulder all day (worried about being chased away).

All is not lost, as I do a lot of motorsport photography as well. But I'd rather be photographing airplanes!
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RE: Canon 10D - Sample Shot Here (UA 777)

Mon Mar 24, 2003 10:53 pm

At least you weren't hassled. I hope now that the airports have been under such scrutiny they will come to realize that there is no risk and so relax security (i.e. stopping people and moving them on, not stopping other security procedures that are necassary!!).

Sadly alot of spots in the UK are disappearing too for one reason or another  Sad. At least I can still take photographs of the moon  Laugh out loud
 
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RE: Canon 10D - Sample Shot Here (UA 777)

Tue Mar 25, 2003 1:22 am

Wow, the pics looks brilliant!! Has anyone used the 75-300 F4-5.6 III USM on her yet?

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