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Fuji Velvia 100F Announced!

Sat Mar 29, 2003 3:16 am

Fuji has announced that later this summer, Velvia 100F will be available. I am just curious if any of the fuji guys here are going to try this film?

Here is the link to the announcement:
http://www.fujifilm.com/JSP/fuji/epartners/PREventDetailPage.jsp?DBID=NEWS_547200

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RE: Fuji Velvia 100F Announced!

Sat Mar 29, 2003 4:29 am

I've heard it's been postponed to autumn...
And yes I'll be trying it for sure. Wouldn't be surprised if it becomes my default film if it's anything like Velvia 50.
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RE: Fuji Velvia 100F Announced!

Sat Mar 29, 2003 7:23 am

Based solely on the super reputation and results that I get with Velvia 50, you can be sure I will try the Velvia 100. I am sure knowing Fuji that it will be a great film.
 
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RE: Fuji Velvia 100F Announced!

Sat Mar 29, 2003 12:25 pm

Wow, great news, can't wait to give it a shot!!!!

Now Rob, Joe, interested to join???  Big grin

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RE: Fuji Velvia 100F Announced!

Sat Mar 29, 2003 1:55 pm

Count me OUT...

I may, however, re-try a roll of Provia 100F soon on some action shots... rest assured, 50mm ramp shots will always be shot with the best of the best - Kodachrome 25/64.


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RE: Fuji Velvia 100F Announced!

Sat Mar 29, 2003 4:57 pm

I am sure this film would be great if it had K14 processing - unfortunately it doesn't.  Sad

And 50mm rampshots always look best on Kodachrome! Sorry but its true.

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RE: Fuji Velvia 100F Announced!

Sat Mar 29, 2003 5:24 pm

Looks best, or (at the moment) pays the best.................  Big grin

Rob : You shock me, how come the sudden interest to try Provia for action shots?

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RE: Fuji Velvia 100F Announced!

Sat Mar 29, 2003 5:36 pm

He probably fears he may have to go somewhere where he can't get the Holy K64 and may have to improvise  Laugh out loud

Fuji forever. Tried Kodak and didn't like it. Won't touch non-standard development processes either...
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RE: Fuji Velvia 100F Announced!

Sat Mar 29, 2003 6:50 pm

"And 50mm rampshots always look best on Kodachrome! Sorry but its true."

So do actionshots D Big grin

Many people that say they don't like Kodachrome don't know how to shoot it properly. Just last weekend I was at a Convention in Rotterdam and went trough hundreds of pages with slides, and I only picked out 20 I liked.

Rob, please think about what you're saying Smile

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RE: Fuji Velvia 100F Announced!

Sun Mar 30, 2003 3:31 am

K64 ramp slides only look great to me when they don't come back like this from Kodak. Just one of many reasons why I now shoot Fuji Provia. ~Los

 
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RE: Fuji Velvia 100F Announced!

Sun Mar 30, 2003 4:02 am

Many people that say they don't like Kodachrome don't know how to shoot it properly.

Correct.

I tried it between 1979 - 97, never understood how to use it... (sarcasm mode off...)  Big grin
 
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RE: Fuji Velvia 100F Announced!

Sun Mar 30, 2003 8:51 am

Guys

Just making a warning here....this thread is just telling you about Velvia have a new 100speed ....you don't like Fuji...leave it.....otherwise you are only making yourself into deep shit coz I gonna drop bombs on ya soon Just kidding  Big grin

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RE: Fuji Velvia 100F Announced!

Sun Mar 30, 2003 5:43 pm

Well I'll be definiately interested in trying it. I am frequently of a split mind between Provia 100 and Velvia 50. I love the color and contrast of Velvia, but I like the extra speed of provia, and the better tolerance in difficult lighting.

Perhaps Velvia 100F will incorporate the best of both? There is also a chance it takes the worst of both.

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RE: Fuji Velvia 100F Announced!

Sun Mar 30, 2003 8:03 pm

Jwenting,

Doesn't matter what thread it is, you always seem to miss the point... and you wrote : "He probably fears he may have to go somewhere where he can't get the Holy K64 and may have to improvise "

Uhhh, which is why I'd buy my Kodachrome in bulk before I'd leave for such a trip, to say, South America.

I'm going to try Provia once more, just so I'm fully convinced it's not the film for me.




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RE: Fuji Velvia 100F Announced!

Sun Mar 30, 2003 8:33 pm

Rob,

To quote : "I'm going to try Provia once more, just so I'm fully convinced it's not the film for me."

Glad to see to see that you have such an open mind to things.  Big grin Mind you, doesn't surprise me one bit to hear those sort of statements coming from you.

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RE: Fuji Velvia 100F Announced!

Sun Mar 30, 2003 8:38 pm

True Tim. Kodachrome looks great in action, when its sunny that is. But I have to say it doesn't pick up all the detail like fuji does - take a look at some of my shots shot in Jan and Feb - all that awesome winter sun and jet blast combined with Provia make the picture look just like digital - smooth as silk!

Rob, the reason I am not so anti-Fuji is because if Kodak does go belly up, then what will we have to start using for those beautiful ramp shots? Provia 100F I'm guessing..........so lets just hope K64 stays around and Kodak gets there act together with that nasty processing they have been doing lately - Carlos has an excelletn example of lousy processing.

Last summer they toasted a roll - I think it was a Gemni MD-11 and they made it look like Northern Lights were out in the middle of the day! Go figure........

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RE: Fuji Velvia 100F Announced!

Sun Mar 30, 2003 11:07 pm

This is the best thing I have heard from Dmitry and I love it!!
P.S. A friend of mine, and possibly Royal, we have set dates for our Anchorage visit (July 16-19). so hope to see ya around.

True Tim. Kodachrome looks great in action, when its sunny that is. But I have to say it doesn't pick up all the detail like fuji does - take a look at some of my shots shot in Jan and Feb - all that awesome winter sun and jet blast combined with Provia make the picture look just like digital - smooth as silk!



Rob, I think you need to find a good lab, the result on developing Provia or any E6 film varies, I would be pretty confident of my stuff now since I have been taken care of the developing personally in my friend's lab. If you cannot find a good lab, you can send me the Provia roll, I will do it for you.  Big grin
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RE: Fuji Velvia 100F Announced!

Mon Mar 31, 2003 12:35 am

Sam,

You're really a nice guy. Rob is so biased that it doesn't matter what you offer him, don't waste your time offering to develop film on his behalf.

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RE: Fuji Velvia 100F Announced!

Mon Mar 31, 2003 12:41 am

Dmitry, IF Fuji goes down there are other labs doing E6 for you.
If Kodak goes down, their custom labs go with them and you're stuck with your stock of K64 that noone can process.
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RE: Fuji Velvia 100F Announced!

Mon Mar 31, 2003 1:05 am

If you get hit by a bus today and die, you can't use your Fuji stock either Smile
Come one, would the highely unlikely demise of Kodak be a reason not to buy it.......that sort of reasoning will get you nowhere.....

And if they would discontinue K64 I'm sure they would keep the labs open for some time.

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RE: Fuji Velvia 100F Announced!

Mon Mar 31, 2003 1:08 am

Tim, he said his main reason for not using Fuji is the chance that Fuji goes under. I countered that...

I know you don't want to understand anything remotely positive about Fuji of course...
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RE: Fuji Velvia 100F Announced!

Mon Mar 31, 2003 1:31 am

I have some postive thoughts about Fuji Big grin you get your slides back in 1 day, has finer grain (provia and velvia), and scans much easier. That's why I have used it a couple of times, just for uploading to A.net.

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RE: Fuji Velvia 100F Announced!

Mon Mar 31, 2003 8:10 am

Andy - gimme a break. I'm at least offering to retry the film that is so talked about. I have a professional lab to take it to already, and as I said, I will only use the film on action shots (when and if) we get some sun around, it has been by far the shittiest winter ever here. We're going on 3 weeks with only 2 days of mediocre sun, with another 10 days of rain planned ahead...

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and I don't see how it's lacking in any way? Anyways, I'm not gonna bag those who use Fuji films anymore. Use whatever you want, but if you're a slide-trader, then all bets are off. I will yack and yack about KR until the day I die... Big grin

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RE: Fuji Velvia 100F Announced!

Mon Mar 31, 2003 10:05 am

ok I am going to stop here. This thread is going nowhere now, it is like the Dmitry thread last time, going again the same shit, argue green vs yellow. Keep in mind, this is a thread by LGB photos just telling you Velvia have a new 100 speed soon, this is indeed great news for me, and others shooters like Fujichrome. If you don't like it, leave it simple as that. The argument on those green vs yellow does not make anyone change their preference at the end, the Kodachorome guys stick to their like, and I stick to mine. I have been keen on those issues, but for once I back down, coz it is always the same group of people argue here, and we all know at the end what we go for. I personally don't care whether my stuff trades or sales (although they do I gonna tell you!) At the end, it is my personal satisfaction weights the most, I don't mind or care what other thinks about the way I use film. I am just happy about the way I have been.

P.S. Sometimes I have been a nice guy and shoot Kodak and Fuji in 2rolls for a static plane, and I have amazing result that in 3 single conventions the Fuji slide of the plane trade/sold more than the K64 one....(well, it may surpirse the guys as I said this, but it is the truth I found)

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RE: Fuji Velvia 100F Announced!

Mon Mar 31, 2003 4:15 pm

K64 is my #1 choice but I also like the faster speed of Provia and have no problem shooting either except that the guys I trade with are Kodachrome guys. I look forward to hearing what Sam and the others have to say about Velvia 100f and how it compares to Provia 100f and Velvia 50. Not that I am going to leave kodachrome, but it makes for good conversation and to me, I find it interesting on how films differ when shot my different people in different locations.

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RE: Fuji Velvia 100F Announced!

Mon Mar 31, 2003 7:03 pm

Hey guys!

I realize this thread went off subject, like usual. I have never shot Fuji for nice ramp shot, and don't plan to. But I have shot about 5 rolls on action - and I love the results!
I can say the film is MUCH easier to scan than Kodachrome - it is ver flexible regarding photo editing - just like a digital file with a slide!  Big grin

Sam you can e-mail me direct to talk about your upcoming trip to Anchorage - I'll definately be around!

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RE: Fuji Velvia 100F Announced!

Mon Mar 31, 2003 7:32 pm

Sammy,

What's with the hostility? Here I am admitting that I'm going to shoot another roll or two of Provia 100F, and you start yacking about yellow vs. green. Huh?
I'll shoot a roll, post the results, and go from there...

And about your convention success... like I said before in another thread, you do well because a) you shoot high-quality, and b) you shoot a lot of stuff that for the most part hasn't been shot on anything else, thus the ease of selling. So, to think that people are all of a sudden "flocking" for Fujichromes is a definite over-exageration. I wish you success, don't get me wrong, I'm just shedding light as to the reasons.

Wow... the first post about Fujichrome which I haven't dissed. I must be crazy  Nuts

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RE: Fuji Velvia 100F Announced!

Mon Mar 31, 2003 8:30 pm

This indeed is good news...However, Velvia has always been a little too saturated for my tastes (aviation apps anyway). It would be fun to play with in artistic situations though.

As for Kodachrome...The day Kodachrome died is when they discontinued K25. K64? Sorry, Provia eats it for lunch, in almost every way (archival longevity remains to be seen). The film is sharper, has an RMS 8 grain level (K25 was a 9), and best of all...it isn't at the mercy of Kodak processing.

Who knows, maybe Kodak will get its act together and develop a suitable replacement for KR, but it seems to me that Kodak is more concerned with their print film line. Their only counter has been Elite Chrome, which is a pretty feeble attempt IMO.
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RE: Fuji Velvia 100F Announced!

Mon Mar 31, 2003 9:50 pm

Rob,

I think you have been very rude in your responses, whats that "give me a break" thing said to Andy, (considering Andy didn't say/do anything wrong to piss you off) and what did I do to be hostile? I am just telling everyone I won't discuss green vs yellow anymore, and because we always get nothing at the end. I appreciate Stephen (LGB / KLGB), USA - California">LGB photos) telling us a new product, and some nice discussions and each one's different views.

One thing: If you notice, I have never been rude to a person in all my posts, but the way you handled may be looks ok to you, but I am slightly offended tonight here because your replies sounds you know everything and been very smart. With all the respect, you can continue to do whatever you like, and so do I. No further things need to be said here.


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RE: Fuji Velvia 100F Announced!

Tue Apr 01, 2003 2:16 am

I love to shoot rampshots with K25.K64 don't have the same great colours as K25. Now I shoot on the ramp and action shots with Fuji Provia 100F. Fuji is better than Kodak in my regard. Anyone happy with Kodak, thats fine with me.

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RE: Fuji Velvia 100F Announced!

Tue Apr 01, 2003 2:18 am

DSMav8r - I had no idea that the RMS for Provia is 8 and that K25 was 9. I highly doubt that Kodak will do anything to replace K64 when the times come and I think most people will switch to Provia 100f. I will never shoot Elitechrome or whatever the other stuff is that Kodak has. I have noticed that the Provia is way smoother and finer grain than K64 but the only thing that bothers me is the archival longevity. The best thing to do is probably wait and see I guess.

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RE: Fuji Velvia 100F Announced!

Tue Apr 01, 2003 3:01 am

Yes Fuji has less grain, but K64 is still sharper according to this website (I have seen this on my own slides as well), which provides some "solid" facts about films, so no need to argue:

http://www.creekin.net/films.htm

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RE: Fuji Velvia 100F Announced!

Tue Apr 01, 2003 3:22 am

I recently went out to take some pictures, and stupidly forgot to take any film with me. So I borrowed some K64 from someone. I just scanned them today.

I'm sorry to say that K64 at least scans far worse than Provia or Velvia on my Nikonscan 4000ED. It looks like some bad 200 film, and that was despite using the scanner's special settings for Kodachrome. In addition, the constuction of the film seems to bother the scanner's dust-elimination algorithm, so you have to turn that off and clean up the scans manually.

I suppose the actual slides are OK, but for some reason it has a hell of a time scanning.

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RE: Fuji Velvia 100F Announced!

Tue Apr 01, 2003 7:40 am

I must admit that on my HP slide scanner, the Fuji does scan better than K64.

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