Ned Kelly
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Accused Of Faking It!

Tue Apr 22, 2003 9:18 am

I have had a few e-mails about this picture in the last year or so, most of them have been polite questions about "why are there additional upper windows" in my photo of N7470, the 747 prototype. But this one takes the biscuit!!

Here is the e-mail I received:

"Why did you add windows to the upper deck of your photo of the first 747
prototype? Just in case you don't know its photo id 156916. Every single
other photo of N7470 in the database shows it with only 3 upper deck
windows. It looks so obvious that you used Photoshop to make those extra
windows as they are darker than the originals. Also, back in 1969 the 747s
were meant to have bars in the upper decks as evidenced in some of the more
recent photos of that aircraft. I would highly recommend that you re-upload
that photo with the normal number of windows so as to prevent further
confusion such as my own. Oh, and by the way, as a 747 enthusiast, I am
extremely dissapointed that you would try and alter the appearance of an
aircraft as reveared as the first 747 ever built!"


& the photo in question: (sorry for the plug)


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Ned.
 
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RE: Accused Of Faking It!

Tue Apr 22, 2003 9:22 am

What is your explanation for the extra windows?
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gmonney
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RE: Accused Of Faking It!

Tue Apr 22, 2003 9:33 am

Why don't you ask Boeing, the photographer doesn't alway have the answers on why....we just take the pictures?

Apparently they added more windows later on!

Grant
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Ned Kelly
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RE: Accused Of Faking It!

Tue Apr 22, 2003 9:36 am

Sorry I should have explained this.

When I originally uploaded the photo on to the database, I never even noticed the additional windows myself until I received an e-mail from someone who pointed it out to me.
In his e-mail he said that the "windows" (which in fact are only stickers made to look like windows) were added by Boeing sometime earlier to promote the 747-200 series. When the aircraft was ferried to the museum in Seattle, the aircraft was restored to it's original state & the stickers were removed.

If anyone else is able to correct or add to this story, or details when the stickers were added & removed then please respond.
Ned.
 
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RE: Accused Of Faking It!

Tue Apr 22, 2003 10:54 am

Don't you love getting rude emails from people who don't know what the hell they are talking about? Sigh.... I just got one from someone regarding one of my photos. Why is it that people can't ask a question instead of yelling at you and accusing you of unnatural acts.  Confused
 
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RE: Accused Of Faking It!

Tue Apr 22, 2003 10:56 am

if you look really close, you can see the difference between the stickers and the real windows...look at the 2nd window from the front, the fifth, and the 8th...they are a lighter gray-ish shade in comparison to the others.
 
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RE: Accused Of Faking It!

Tue Apr 22, 2003 12:29 pm

whoever wrote this email makes me wonder...what would the photographer have to gain by photoshopping on additional windows? It doesn't make any sense.
 
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RE: Accused Of Faking It!

Tue Apr 22, 2003 1:35 pm

Some people are idiots, Clickhappy.
Or make that "most people are idiots", but a good portion don't act it most of the time.
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RE: Accused Of Faking It!

Tue Apr 22, 2003 1:40 pm

Accused Of Faking It!
Yeah, my girlfriend accuses me of that a lot...  Big thumbs up


But anyway, I agree with Royal, why would he photoshop that? If you're gonna photoshop make it cool, or at least something that will boost your number of hits. haha

Brian
 
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RE: Accused Of Faking It!

Tue Apr 22, 2003 10:29 pm

The funny thing is, this guys says he's a 747 enthusiast  Wink/being sarcastic If he actually would have had the knowledge he wants us to believe he has, shouldn't he already have known that Boeing added some window-lookalike stickers to this airplane years ago?

Anyway, since he's seriously dissapointed by the fact that this plane's appearance was altered, I think he should sue Boeing for, let's say $ 50.000.000, and hence let the company get rid of a couple of thousand good employees, currently working on new 747 models. Just imagine, huh?

Just another guy who refuses to look for reasons why some things aren't the way they should be.

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RE: Accused Of Faking It!

Tue Apr 22, 2003 11:59 pm

hmm, you might consider sueing the guy for slander and telling him to give the money to Boeing for the 747 program he claims to love Big grin
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RE: Accused Of Faking It!

Wed Apr 23, 2003 1:18 am

Yeah, but Ned, annoying as that message was, you must have had some fun firing an e-mail back to this '747 enthusiast'
APP
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Ned Kelly
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RE: Accused Of Faking It!

Wed Apr 23, 2003 1:26 am

Thanks for the replies.

APP, I made sure I had calmed down for an hour or so before I replied to this guy. I sent the following reply back to him, which under the circumstances was quite diplomatic I think.

Dear xxxx,

Thank you for your e-mail regarding my picture, and accusing me of faking
it!!

The additional upper windows on my photo were not added by me, but by
Boeing. They are in fact stickers that were added to the aircraft when
Boeing was trying to promote the 747-200 series, as a 747 enthusiast I am
surprised you were an aware of that. You will also notice that my photo was
taken at Las Vegas, quite a few years apart from other photo's on the site.
It was not until the aircraft was ferried to Seattle that Boeing restored it
to it's original condition (i.e. removed the additional stickers).

I think a little basic research before you sent your e-mail, could have
saved you some embarrassment.

Regards ,

John Kelly.

 
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RE: Accused Of Faking It!

Wed Apr 23, 2003 3:09 am

Excellent reply, mang. You let him know he's a jackass while being nice. Couldn't have written it better myself.

Brian
 
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RE: Accused Of Faking It!

Wed Apr 23, 2003 6:35 am

Great answer! Did you get any reply to that post?

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