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F-14s At LGA (pictures)

Sun Jun 29, 2003 7:01 am

Tom turner and Art Brett opted to go to JFK this morning against my urging (I'm exagerrating a little). Either way, I don't know what they saw there, but they might regret missing this.  Smile

I was at Planeview Park next to the College Of Aeronatics, right by the beginning of Runway 4, which is what they were using for both landings and departures.

At one point, I saw the taxiway was packed with no planes turning onto the runway, but none landing either. I counted 11 planes waiting, not moving for some reason, as seen here:

(all pics shown here were taken by me today, and are frames from video, and were further compressed for quicker loading, so please excuse the quality)



Then in the distance, going north, I saw fighters flying in diamond formation to the north over the Bronx:



A few minutes went by, and still no movement at the airport. I thought that it was shut down for the flyover and that things would turn on once they left. I thought they were continuing to land when I saw a few dots in the distance, but no no, they are the 4 F-14s coming in to land.

They came in close to each other, some hitting the deck VERY hard, and I'm shocked that there weren't engine strikes, as the video shows how close it was (sudden last second DROPS to the ground were great to see). They were landing before their shipmates cleared the runway, three of them on runway 4 at once. They then taxied over to the parking area near the Marine Air Terminal.

Here are frames of the landings. They are scrambled as to which of the four planes they were, but still in a landing sequence:













This was EXTREMELY exciting for me to not only witness up close, but also to get on video. I kept missing it when it would happen every few months, but the conditions were perfect today.

The sound on the video is INCREDIBLE. Even going fairly slow, they still shreik on in.

I understnad they were in town for an airshow. Why the stopped at LGA, though, I don't know.

-Phil

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RE: F-14s At LGA (pictures)

Sun Jun 29, 2003 7:03 am

Very nice! I hope someday I can get to see that video and some of your other ones! Keep up the cool work!

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RE: F-14s At LGA (pictures)

Sun Jun 29, 2003 7:18 am

Sweet stills Phil! That last frame is impressive- it does look very close to an engine strike  Wow!
 
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RE: F-14s At LGA (pictures)

Sun Jun 29, 2003 7:23 am

Wow...that last frame is REAL close to a tail strike! Is there any way we can see the video of the landing?

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RE: F-14s At LGA (pictures)

Sun Jun 29, 2003 8:32 am

Hey Phil!

Great shot again man, its great you were there and not JFK to catch the action...I still say, how can I buy your videos?

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RE: F-14s At LGA (pictures)

Sun Jun 29, 2003 9:08 am

Email him Rydawg.
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RE: F-14s At LGA (pictures)

Sun Jun 29, 2003 11:18 am

Hey Phil, I'm sure you were closer to the jets at Planeview than whoever was at this whatever airshow !!!

That was a blazing sunset today...best of the year... hope someone made something out of it at JFK/LGA/EWR...

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RE: F-14s At LGA (pictures)

Sun Jun 29, 2003 11:58 am

Phil,

They might be F-14's but I opted for this:

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RE: F-14s At LGA (pictures)

Sun Jun 29, 2003 1:16 pm

"Hi, I'm Matt. Phil didn't really mention me, but I'll shamelessly plug my own anet pics in unrelated forums."

Ok, I'm just jealous that this kid has a 10D, but come on, I don't have a camera, why you gotta steal my thunder?  Big grin

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RE: F-14s At LGA (pictures)

Sun Jun 29, 2003 1:28 pm

I should also add that the CRAZY sunburn I got today was well worth it.

With the high-sun, I got sunburn on my arms and only the TOP of my face. I'm stil white near my mouth. I kinda look like Dare Devil.
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RE: F-14s At LGA (pictures)

Sun Jun 29, 2003 2:04 pm

Not really and unrelated forum. I took the picture today when I had the chance to go to LGA!  Smile  Smile

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RE: F-14s At LGA (pictures)

Sun Jun 29, 2003 11:40 pm

Thats a real cool picture Matt.
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RE: F-14s At LGA (pictures)

Mon Jun 30, 2003 3:44 am

The four F-14s jsut took off on Runway 13 minutes ago. I got 2 of them on tape. REALLY loud. I'll load pics and vid later. Stay tuned.
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RE: F-14s At LGA (pictures)

Mon Jun 30, 2003 8:18 am

Regarding the "near tail strikes"...remember that Navy aviators are trained a bit differently with landings. They pretty much stick the airplane to the ground as if they were landing on a carrier...no bouncing along. Watch the struts retract as they absorb the hit. (I can always tell which Southwest pilot was trained by the Navy as they land.  Smile )
 
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RE: F-14s At LGA (pictures)

Mon Jun 30, 2003 9:04 am

Basically naval aviators don't flare. - it would take up too much of that 700-foot runway they're trying to put it down on. Plus the Navy aircraft are built for the extra shock and forces associated with no flare landings. Try this with an F-15 or F-16 and I'll venture to guess you'd probably put the main gear thru the wings.

On a different note, I was at Nantucket one day holding short of the runway for takeoff when 4 ANG A-10's did a low fly-by down the runway, did their break and came in for a landing. I wish I had a camera then...

Cheers  Smile
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RE: F-14s At LGA (pictures)

Mon Jun 30, 2003 10:54 am

So the planes came in yesterday, but form what I heard (by sound and rumor), the F-14s still hadn’t left yet.

I live two blocks form the water across from LGA, and I was getting ready to leave the house this afternoon when I heard a louder plane. I paused for a second and then heard the afterburners. I stay prepared with my video camera there and battery charged, so I grabbed it like a fireman to the sound of the bell.

I ran top speed and managed to catch two of them departing on Runway 13. They took off very early in their roll, and then coasted low over the length of the runway before climbing and banking hard to the right and shooting upward.

Here are some frames from the departure. The frames I grabbed didn’t come out too well since I was panning the camera fast to keep up with the plane.

“La Guardia Tower, request a flyby.”

“Negative Ghost Rider, the pattern is full.”













These guys were SO loud. They make MD-80s sound like a whisper.

-Phil
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RE: F-14s At LGA (pictures)

Mon Jun 30, 2003 11:49 am

Nice shots phil. That Tomcat looks faster than your sister! Now how do they slow down without arrestor cables?


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RE: F-14s At LGA (pictures)

Mon Jun 30, 2003 12:09 pm

"Now how do they slow down without arrestor cables?"

Duh...these are Navy planes...they throw an anchor overboard!
 
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RE: F-14s At LGA (pictures)

Mon Jun 30, 2003 12:38 pm

Well, Mirrodie, if you loook in the landing pics, I believe that the red thing between the tails is a braking device, and the planes also have those things on the wings like airliners do (wow, i forogt the name, i need sleep, how embarrassing).

And jsut slowing down by decreasing thrust i'm sure is enough.
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RE: F-14s At LGA (pictures)

Mon Jun 30, 2003 7:51 pm

Bigphil,

you mean Spoilers!
 
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RE: F-14s At LGA (pictures)

Mon Jun 30, 2003 9:23 pm

That's it!!! Spoilers! lol. I was about to say shuffles or some crap.

I understnad that these planes were in town for a flyover At Yankee Stadium for the baseball Subway Series between the Mets and Yankees. I heard about an airshow, but after some research, I couldn't find anything out about an airshow.

Couldn't have been for the fourth, because they left already. lol.

I wonder where the pilots stayed overnight. "Hey, man, New York women are slu@$%#@!" lol

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RE: F-14s At LGA (pictures)

Mon Jun 30, 2003 10:53 pm

Yes, I saw the airbrake and spoilers but thought they mght need more since no reverse thrust is used.

moot point though, very nice video man.


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RE: F-14s At LGA (pictures)

Mon Jun 30, 2003 11:29 pm

I SO knew youd say that! lol
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RE: F-14s At LGA (pictures)

Tue Jul 01, 2003 12:25 am

Those are really cool pictures!!!! I saw them too over at Plainview Park and I got a photo of them. It's too bad I didn't get to see you and Mirrodie(and go to JFK) but I had loads of fun! I saw the Midwest 717 several times while I was there and the other usual stuff. Thanks to you all for giving me the info about the different spotting areas and thanks to Mirrodie, Bigphilly and his other friend Louis for talking to me and comming out there to spot. When I was there saturday, I saw a military Gulfstream taxiing to take off and was that part of it or just something else? I am going to put the pictures in and then when I scan some of them I'll show them here.
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RE: F-14s At LGA (pictures)

Tue Jul 01, 2003 8:24 am

Yeah man, sorry I couldnt get to meet you. I must have left MINUTES before you got there.

I'm edittig the Fighter videos with the Top Gun song "Danger Zone" in the background. lol
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