mirrodie
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PLEase Calm My Digi Fears.

Mon Aug 18, 2003 11:01 am

I have a Canon Rebel 2000 but I am considering selling the body and buying a Canon Digital body now. (the lenses are interchangeable right?)

Why? Well, I like that you guys get instant feedback on your work with a digi......But I think that is the only reason why I want a digi.

.... I am not sure I would like to have to get a printer of certain quality, buy special paper, etc ...doesn't it get costly? I mean, I understand the cost if you are a photographer who may sell your work. But what if you are merely an amateur?

On the other hand, I shoot my prints and have albums full of stuff. When I want to show images to family and friends, I show them albums.

I was at the fiancees house, looking at her old albums, thinking, how can one ever get rid of albums. Just seems weird to me, ya know?

add to tmy "problems" that I have to geta scanner and upload my old pics anyway. ....

what would you suggest??

I am thinking of one day getting the scanner, uploading the old stuff, then just going digi.

What are the pros/cons of each?
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RE: PLEase Calm My Digi Fears.

Mon Aug 18, 2003 11:37 am

Since you asked, here is my 2 cents, but since its Canadian I guess its more like 1 cent to you, but anyway.....  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
Keep your film body and go digital too, especially if you like the film body and are used to working with it.
Aside from the instant feedback from digital you can also do up prints of only the ones you want so really the processing costs are much less in the long term.
In my opinion I wouldn't bother with any at home inkjet printing of your pics just yet either. The quality isn't quite what you'd get from getting the digital image processed onto photopaper and the at home jobbies will fade out after 10 years. This won't always be the case, but for now I believe it is.
For showing off your digital pics, get a DVD player that can do JPEG/photo CDs. The cheap ones are so cheap now its unbelievable and you can whip up a slideshow in minutes burn it to a disc and sit around the TV in the living room and show your friends that way.
Just my opinion though.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: PLEase Calm My Digi Fears.

Mon Aug 18, 2003 11:38 am

I am not sure I would like to have to get a printer of certain quality, buy special paper, etc ...doesn't it get costly? I mean, I understand the cost if you are a photographer who may sell your work. But what if you are merely an amateur?

A good alternative is going to Wal-Mart and just popping in the Compact flash into the computer and priting out what you want....what size and how ever many. It's about .29 cents per 4x6, $1.40 per 5x7 etc. With my D30, the quality looks equal to print film, and I'm not kidding. Downfall is they can only print on matte finish, but most of the time I print out stuff other than aviation photography.

I shot around at a recent family wedding in PHL, I was VERY impressed how they came out.
 
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RE: PLEase Calm My Digi Fears.

Mon Aug 18, 2003 11:53 am

Mirrodie,

Digital is good for getting feedback on your photos almost instantly. You can make digital albums with various programs that are available for a modest sum. One you might like to check is

http://www.flipalbum.com/

Instead of a scanner what about a slide copier attachment which you can use negative film in or just use the close up function of your lens attached to a digital body? At least its worth a try before investing in the scanner as you may not use it once all your existing photos are digitised.

Something to think about?  Smokin cool

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RE: PLEase Calm My Digi Fears.

Mon Aug 18, 2003 1:04 pm

I second AvroArrow
Keep both and enjoy both, film has its advantages, but digital is where everything is heading.
 
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RE: PLEase Calm My Digi Fears.

Mon Aug 18, 2003 3:19 pm

Hey Mirrodie,

I was in exactly the same situation! I had the European version of the Canon Rebel 2000 (the EOS 300 I think) and I went from that to the D30. Yes the lenses are interchangeable, and I sold the body only to someone for $150 USD. I do like the instant feedback, i actually believe it helps me to be a better photographer because i can see what I did wrong right then, and take another shot with different settings, and try things & experiment.

You can buy photo printers cheap - it all you are going to do with it is put the print into an album to show friends. or you can buy a more expensive printer to make prints that you can sell, or just take those images on a CD to your local photo store and have them print it if you are going to sell it. I purchased an inexpensive printer.

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RE: PLEase Calm My Digi Fears.

Mon Aug 18, 2003 5:00 pm

Hi Mirrodie,

I recommend the Canon 10D whole heartedly. One question though.... what lenses do you have in your collection?

I recommend you hire a Canon 10D and spend the weekend shooting shots as you normally would. The Canon 10D is excellent, but results differ greatly with lenses and ability to Photoshop the image.

Here is an example of one of my more recent shots from the 10D - you won't be dissapointed:

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RE: PLEase Calm My Digi Fears.

Mon Aug 18, 2003 10:57 pm

Keep both? OK, safe option, and that's what I did at first. When I got my D60, I kept an EOS3 for a full year, just in case. Guess how many rolls of film I shot. None.

Print costs are a consideration - depends what size you want, but if you use something like www.photobox.co.uk, and batch up your orders, costs are negligable for the smaller sizes.

Cheers,

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RE: PLEase Calm My Digi Fears.

Mon Aug 18, 2003 11:12 pm

I only use my photo printer to "proof" my shots, etc. If you want to have normal prints, pick out the ones you like, put them on a card or cd and take them to Sam's Club or Costco. 19cents each for 4x6 prints out of their Fuji Frontier machine in less then an hour. Outstanding quality on real photo paper. They also do 5x7, and 8x10. I think the 8x10's are like $1.89.

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RE: PLEase Calm My Digi Fears.

Mon Aug 18, 2003 11:56 pm

Mirrodie

Go Digi and you won't regret it. Most have given you the reasons and they're all pretty good ... instant feedback, actual photo prints of only the good ones, much reduced cost with no film and processing to pay for and ease of getting them into the digital world (when compared to scanning).

I would add only one thing. Getting a good printer and printing them yourself is not a great idea unless you intend to make and sell larger prints. I have the Canon (yes, I almost choke on that being a Nikon man, but Nikon doesn't make printers) S9000 bubble jet and it makes stunning prints that would rival photo shop quality. Ask BigPhil he was gawking at some of them yesterday. But it's not cheap. For me to print a 4 x 6 it's about twice the cost of what everyone else says about going to Sam's Club and getting prints. But for the larger 13 x 19 size it's much cheaper and the best part is I have total control over the print. How many times have you gotten shoddy prints back from the photofinisher?

Another advantage. Compared to albums, which are nice but you can't carry them with you, I can carry thousands of pictures with me and I do wherever I go. It's nice.

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RE: PLEase Calm My Digi Fears.

Tue Aug 19, 2003 9:07 am

Thank you all. You are all gentlemen and scholars. and I truly mean that.

Glenn, I have a 28-80 and 80-200, but also may want to get one of those image stabilizing lenses at well, in perhaps a higher focal length. Suggestions anyone?

As I will soon be flying in a few REAL flight sims, I think i may soon be making a purchase of sorts.  Big grin

I usually get camera bodies at B+H in Manhattan. ANy other good cost effective options/ideas?

I appreciate your knowledge.

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RE: PLEase Calm My Digi Fears.

Tue Aug 19, 2003 4:51 pm

one of those image stabilizing lenses at well, in perhaps a higher focal length

Consider the 300mm f4L IS - possibly the best lens Canon has produced. More than a few photographers prefer it to the legendary 300 f2.8 as the loss of a stop is easily made up for by the IS, and it is much lighter and more manageable.

Cheers,

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RE: PLEase Calm My Digi Fears.

Wed Aug 20, 2003 11:18 am

THank you Colin.

Now for my next trick, er. um, question.....

What a good Canon starter DLSR body that is relatively inexpensive?

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