rsmith6621a
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The New Canon EOS

Mon Sep 01, 2003 12:32 pm



Does anyone know when the new Canon EOS 300 becomes available in the USA.....I am seriously thinking of getting it and leave behind my days of Pro-Sumer cameras...I currently have a Fuji S602 and need more FLEX like the ability to manually focus and zomming in and out quickly.

If you know I would appreciat the lead.......Oh BTW if you are reading this Royal I hope that this isnt a dissapointment for you.

Randy
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RE: The New Canon EOS

Mon Sep 01, 2003 1:19 pm

PC Mall just sent an email out that they are taking orders on them at $899.00. Shipping sometime in mid September. BH Photo is also offering them at $899.00.
 
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RE: The New Canon EOS

Mon Sep 01, 2003 1:30 pm



Any lense choices.........How is Sigma for quality...........????


I just noticed that Calument also will be selling it for $899.00.


Thanks
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JeffM
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RE: The New Canon EOS

Mon Sep 01, 2003 2:01 pm

Randy,
Sigma makes fine lenses. Do yourself a favor and compare cameras before buying that plastic canon.

Jeff
 
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RE: The New Canon EOS

Mon Sep 01, 2003 2:22 pm

Randy,

I think you could do alot worse than this new Canon. Many people have used the Rebel film camera for years with a great deal of success. Sure, it does not have the top of the line features, but it is still a good camera. I have dropped mine and generally abused it and it still holds up. They are an investment that you just need to take care of.

There are some fine quality Sigma and Tamron lenses out there that are cheaper than Canon glass. But if at all possible go with the best you can afford there. The lenses will more than likely outlast the camera, or if you stick with Canon bodies you will be able to use the lenses. (Same with Nikon...buy the best glass you can!) That said I had a great deal of success with the Sigma 170-500 for aviation photos. It is decently built, gives nice results and is reasonably priced.

Tony
 
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RE: The New Canon EOS

Tue Sep 02, 2003 8:00 am

My personal opinion is to never buy anything other than Canon lenses for Canon equipment.

Now I know others that have after-market brands and they get great results with them. I tried a Tamron 200-400mm lense once and took it back. I hated it. I will only buy Canon glass and no one can ever convince me other wise.


Jay
 
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RE: The New Canon EOS

Tue Sep 02, 2003 10:37 am


One of the camera shops(Kenmore Cameras) near my home in Seattle is offering the EOS Digital with a 17-55 for $999 so maybe if Im able to swing this deal I will support the home team.

I am going to start looking at a shop down the road for USED Canon lenses I have seen so AF type EF lenses in the used case starting for $50.00 and they are on a 30 day full money back.


Jeff M quote
>>>>>>Sigma makes fine lenses. Do yourself a favor and compare cameras before buying that plastic canon.<<<<<<<<<

Now Jeff you dont have a case of Canon Envy do you..... Smile Remeber I just started working with the Airlines....when I get that dispatch job at UAL then Ill start looking towards the D100 or the EOS60. but for now Im tired of the slow focus of my S602 and the ability to do manual focus. And HEY!!!! it looks like a true 6mp camera.

Regards



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RE: The New Canon EOS

Tue Sep 02, 2003 2:08 pm

Randy, I understand what your saying. I would just think it would be better to go with the d60/10d if you want a Canon even with the difference in price. See if you can get a year no interest or something.....

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RE: The New Canon EOS

Tue Sep 02, 2003 11:28 pm

Hi Randy,

In using the Canon 10D I was shocked at first. Images were softer than my Sony DSC-S85 - but there were advantages in speed and framing.

As time has gone on I look back at my sharp Sony shots to realise the Canon shots are superior in every other area. The softness of the shot is mainly due to my lenses, but partly due to Canon's typical softness which assists greatly in post-processing.

The other HUGE advantage: low noise.
The Canon 10D's noise at ISO 800 is still less noisy than my Sony at ISO 100. It's more noise free than the Nikon D100 which starts at ISO 200 which is nearly as noisy as the 10D's ISO 400 - which is not the best for a camera of this level. The Canon's noise at 1600 still leads the Nikon - an area where the D60 fell flat.

See noise levels at:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos10d/page18.asp
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond100/page16.asp

The Canon 300D takes on board most of the advantages of the Canon 10D. I don't think you can go wrong, and I would take advantage of the two new lenses that come with the 300D (or at least wide-angle). The wide angle is inexpensive for what you're getting and will allow the camera to get a lot of non-aviation use (which you'll count you lucky starts for).

By a cheaper lens for the moment if budget constraints are important (if not, you would purchase the 10D instead). But I now swear by the comments made by some of the older and wiser on this and other forums.... the more expensive L glass is worth every penny.

After using the 100-400L IS USM and 70-200L f2.8 IS USM, I am eating very little - every second dollar is going towards the latter of the lenses and a teleconverter.

See:
http://www.leecarney.com/comparison-revised.htm

This is sure to be twice the price of the 300D, but I would certainly recommend getting the 300D and trying an L lens out in the future.

Kind Regards,

Glenn Stewart
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RE: The New Canon EOS

Wed Sep 03, 2003 11:42 am



Jeff,

Thank you for your correction in the forum at the other place, I appreciate your ability to recognize when you have miss quoted information....it take a real man to admit an error and your admission had class as you do to. I appreciate your Flightsim advice as well as your AvPhoto and your wonderful collection of Avphotos.

You are one of those here who keeps me inspired to keep trying, somewhere down deep in my images Ill bet you might see a peice of yourself as well as many other from this site and yes a whole bit of me growing in the process.

Thanks again

Randy
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RE: The New Canon EOS

Wed Sep 03, 2003 12:21 pm

When I first started out in photography I had to make a decision. That decision was Canon or Nikon. I was young, hell I still am. But it was between the Nikon F-65 and the Rebel TI. I tried both, and hated the Canon camera. It was small, felt cheap, didn't fit in my hands, and felt cheap with so much plastic. I was unbiased then, and chose the Nikon solely on my hatred for the way the Canon felt. This is the same camera, just digitalized (I don't know if that is a word but I like it!).

I suggest going in to a camera store and trying out the film version, the Rebel TI. See how it fits in your hands, see how you like it.

One of my good friends just bought an SLR camera for himself. He was had a decision between the Rebel TI, or the F-65. He chose the F-65 based on the way the Canon felt. He ended up buying an F-80 when he had a nice paycheque.

I'm the proud owner of a D100, plus you don't want to make Royal angry Big grin
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RE: The New Canon EOS

Thu Sep 04, 2003 6:33 pm

Hi Fallingeese,

I agree with your comments on Nikon feel.
But when looking at the outputed images from the D100 and the 10D (at least), the results speak for themselves.

Decent lenses are important, as cheap lenses on the 10D will produce less impressive results than the D100 with good lenses. This speaks for clarity though. The noise on the other hand is easily visible.

Get the Canon for quality images. Besides, they've got a great selection of *expensive* lenses.

Very happy with my 10D!

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RE: The New Canon EOS

Thu Sep 04, 2003 8:09 pm

I am going to start looking at a shop down the road for USED Canon lenses I have seen so AF type EF lenses in the used case starting for $50.00 and they are on a 30 day full money back

Be careful - at the lower end of the scale, Canon make some crap lenses, and you could do much better tooking at the likes of Sigma, Tamron and Tokina for quality at these prices. Many of the cheaper lenses (esp. the mid range zooms) were built to a price point for sale as part of a "kit".

But mixed in with the dross, there are some bargains to be found - the 50mm 1.8, even new, is a bargain, and though construction is light weight, images are razor sharp. A little further up the scale, the 24-85mm is another winner, and could be a good used buy - there are many non-L Canon lenses in this zoom range, and when I bought mine, I think I tested most of them. On a DSLR at least, the 24-85 was the best.

Cheers,

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RE: The New Canon EOS

Fri Sep 05, 2003 8:55 am

Imaging Resource & dpreview.com have just posted extensive reviews of the 300D.
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos300d/
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/EDR/EDRA.HTM

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